What Do You Expect from Brendan O'Brien and Pearl Jam?

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJAMEDVED wrote:
    i fUllY expEcT hIM To BrinG iN a 20O PiECE cHOIr To BaCK EddiE Up. AlSo i tHiNK hE WiLL MiX In a lIttLE CyMbaLoM tHRouGhOut ThE AlbUm.




    foR tHosE wHo dON't knOw Of tHe CyMbaLoM: http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om08750.html


    tHiS aLbUm WiLl rOcK!

    typing like that drives me fucking nuts

    i hate it
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Brendan O'Brien may be the best rock producer of the last 20 years... and Pearl Jam is the best band of the last 20 years...

    so i fully expect it to KICK ASS! :D
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    PJAMEDVED wrote:
    i fUllY expEcT hIM To BrinG iN a 20O PiECE cHOIr To BaCK EddiE Up. AlSo i tHiNK hE WiLL MiX In a lIttLE CyMbaLoM tHRouGhOut ThE AlbUm.




    foR tHosE wHo dON't knOw Of tHe CyMbaLoM: http://www.oddmusic.com/gallery/om08750.html


    tHiS aLbUm WiLl rOcK!

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  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    my2hands wrote:
    Brendan O'Brien may be the best rock producer of the last 20 years... and Pearl Jam is the best band of the last 20 years...

    :D

    that's 40 years
  • chicagojammer06
    chicagojammer06 Posts: 60
    maybe they'll use rick rubin next and make a Reggae record.
  • solution pollution
    solution pollution Posts: 49
    Big sound but digestible. Not as indulgent as Riot Act (where I think the band was pretty unfiltered) or as fine tuned as Pearl Jam (where I think each song had such a specific sound but does not necessarily feed into a sound as a whole body of work). His last album with Bruce Sringsteen really captured a moment. My guess is he'll drive the band toward a few big ideas that play off each other--similar (conceptually) to what they did together on No Code or Yield.
  • bdgavin
    bdgavin Posts: 123
    solution pollution wrote:
    Big sound but digestible. Not as indulgent as Riot Act (where I think the band was pretty unfiltered) or as fine tuned as Pearl Jam (where I think each song had such a specific sound but does not necessarily feed into a sound as a whole body of work). His last album with Bruce Sringsteen really captured a moment. My guess is he'll drive the band toward a few big ideas that play off each other--similar (conceptually) to what they did together on No Code or Yield.

    Nice predictions and thoughts. I think there are so many interesting things that could play out in the next few months. I can't wait to see what developments take place. I posted this because I figured a lot of people would have random ideas as to what kind of album PJ and O'Brien will make together. I'll probably add new developments to this thread as they take place to see whether or not people's projections came true.
  • TT98
    TT98 Posts: 137
    I think its great to have O'brien do it. Yeild and Vitalogy were my fav 2 albums..... I heard on the radio that cornell is doing his next solo album with Timbaland, I just hope and pray they never go down that road
  • Danimal
    Danimal Posts: 2,000
    wwfairfield wrote:
    that's 40 years

    Huh?
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  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    personally, I think O'Brien is irrelevant because the album will only be as good as the songs they write. If the songs are good, he'll make it sound good.

    well, thats not totally true. Vitalogy for example had some songs that could be presented very cleanly and win over the masses as singles....but the albums he produced all had enough weird tracks to put people off, and challenge listeners (Bugs, Pry To, Hey Foxy, Im Open, Who You Are, Red Dot, Push Me Pull Me)

    and BO'B was the one who first got ed to try layering vocals on songs like All Night....which is still something he does (especially on Riot Act), and which would totally change the sound of songs like bushleaguer, Help Help etc on the later albums

    BO'B also actually has played on several of the recordings (I Got Shit, Gremmie, LROM)

    and the drums, bass and strings in LROM sounded MILES better than they have on any of the last few albums.

    BO'Bs remixes of Once, Alive & Black were fucking amazing aswell. he can totally change the way a song sounds.

    Sure, Binaural/RA/PJ has great songs on them, but imagine how different You Are, Severed Hand, Breakerfall would sound if BO'B did them? he has much better sound for them band as a whole, im pysched about the new album.

    with LROM & ITW i think the bar has been raised and its right to have high expectations.
  • freewheelin3
    freewheelin3 Posts: 173
    so does anyone know if they are in there with B o'Brien at the moment.. i heard that the living end album is done and dusted (heard the first single - album in july)then i read then on pitchfork that he is now producing the new mastodon album.

    soyeah, are they doing sessions with him now ?

    be nice if we were kept in the loop a little.
  • dane
    dane Posts: 1,062
    freewheelin3 wrote:
    so does anyone know if they are in there with B o'Brien at the moment.. i heard that the living end album is done and dusted (heard the first single - album in july)then i read then on pitchfork that he is now producing the new mastodon album.

    soyeah, are they doing sessions with him now ?

    be nice if we were kept in the loop a little.

    Read an interview with Mike, where he said that had met and played a few new songs, but they were still not fully evolved and basicly just jam sessions. But he also said that Brendan had pointed them in new directions, some were rough others more soft. But they had decided to seperate for a while and return with fresh ideas. This is just how I remember it though. Might not be fully accurate.
    IMO PJ's work with O'Brien has been their best, so I'm really looking forward to hear how it turns out. Just thinking of a new album gives me the chills!

    When it comes to being kept in the loop, I really wish there would be more info on pearljam.com. It doesn't have to be a weekly blog or personal letter or anything. Just a small announcement, saying "Hey, yesterday we met with Brendan and jammed. New songs are forming!"
    Kinda weird that we always get the first news from other sources......
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  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    I hope the band decides to take more left turns with this upcoming album...the self-titled was good but too straight-ahead, which was the same problem that plagued Riot Act. I just hope the band writes some songs that sound "fresh". I could go without the mindless garage and surf rockers, there's usually a couple that plague each album. The band is at its best when they experiment - check No Code, for example. The worst songs on that album? The straight ahead rockers ("Mankind", "Habit").
  • FrankieJ
    FrankieJ Posts: 602
    i'm hoping they make a kick-ass record, that has NOTHING POLITICAL ABOUT IT. :p
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,985
    FrankieG wrote:
    i'm hoping they make a kick-ass record, that has NOTHING POLITICAL ABOUT IT. :p

    During an election year, and the world in flux

    Better chance getting Ed to cover all Streisand Songs on the new album...just my opinion
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    tcaporale wrote:
    I hope the band decides to take more left turns with this upcoming album...the self-titled was good but too straight-ahead, which was the same problem that plagued Riot Act. I just hope the band writes some songs that sound "fresh". I could go without the mindless garage and surf rockers, there's usually a couple that plague each album. The band is at its best when they experiment - check No Code, for example. The worst songs on that album? The straight ahead rockers ("Mankind", "Habit").

    Riot act had folky elements that were fairly new to PJ, and some cool sounds, different time signatures ... You Are was a great meld of classic rock and more proggy styles. I don't think it was nearly as straight-ahead as Avocado, which was a rocking, meat and potatoes PJ album. I too am hoping for some experimentation the next time around, but not Bugs-style experimentation!
  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Riot act had folky elements that were fairly new to PJ, and some cool sounds, different time signatures ... You Are was a great meld of classic rock and more proggy styles. I don't think it was nearly as straight-ahead as Avocado, which was a rocking, meat and potatoes PJ album. I too am hoping for some experimentation the next time around, but not Bugs-style experimentation!

    Well, obviously, I don't mean experimentation in the vein of "Bugs" or "Hey Foxy...". I don't mean they have to pull, say, a Kid A, but I wish they wrote more songs like "Who You Are" and "Given to Fly", even more like "Wishlist" or "Man of the Hour"...not what most people would call experiments, but I'm referring to the varied sounds of the guitar and the background effects that make the song. I often refer to Radiohead when talking about this, because if you listen to one of their albums, the production plays almost as big a part as the songs themselves. Pearl Jam's self-titled contained some excellent songs ("Life Wasted", "WWS", and "Inside Job" in particular) but the production seemed bland at times...I want them to incorporate more of their ethereal guitar sound on their next record (think "Nothing as It Seems"...or even, if you wish, the slow section of "Life Wasted").
  • PJBuckeye
    PJBuckeye Posts: 1,102
    I think we will get an album better than avocado, but most people won't recognize it. And then when you try to explain how great the new album is people will just give you a blank stare and ask "is Pearl Jam still together?"
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  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    I could do with another No Code-type album...that would be nice.

    Complex songs (think "Immortality" or "Who You Are") would be better than simple rockers (think "Big Wave" or "Ghost").
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    I DON'T want a straight forward rock record.....

    I want creativity and different sounds, I want the things that made No Code, Yield and Binaural so great and passionate and interesting.....


    I would like to hear Jeff's bass better please.....


    I would also like the drums less muffled and Ed's voice brought to the fore again like it is on Yield.....
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