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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Move Tex to DH, don't give him an option and sign Pujols. Cano, Tex, Pujols, Arod....done. Oh and if that happens, thanks Cliff Lee for not signing.

    Not going to happen but I can dream, right?

    Last I checked an AL team could only have one DH. Posada, Rodriguez, who else?

    Although, why stop at one DH - just have 9 guys play the field and 9 other guys hit, right? Like football.

    (Yes, the DH is a fucking joke.)


    the dh is the worst rule in all of sports. it's just been around for so long that everyone takes it for granted. but the fact that one league has such a huuuuuuuuuuuge advantage over the other is incredibly not fair. either get rid or it (preferred) or put it in both leagues to make things even. i've hated the dh since i was a baby. utterly stupid rule...
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,383
    The Juggler wrote:
    the dh is the worst rule in all of sports. it's just been around for so long that everyone takes it for granted. but the fact that one league has such a huuuuuuuuuuuge advantage over the other is incredibly not fair. either get rid or it (preferred) or put it in both leagues to make things even. i've hated the dh since i was a baby. utterly stupid rule...

    In almost any sport an athlete has to play offense AND defense (except football of course). Then in baseball, one guy only has to play offense, and another guy only plays defense, and everyone else has to do both. WTF :roll:
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  • The Juggler
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    the dh is the worst rule in all of sports. it's just been around for so long that everyone takes it for granted. but the fact that one league has such a huuuuuuuuuuuge advantage over the other is incredibly not fair. either get rid or it (preferred) or put it in both leagues to make things even. i've hated the dh since i was a baby. utterly stupid rule...

    In almost any sport an athlete has to play offense AND defense (except football of course). Then in baseball, one guy only has to play offense, and another guy only plays defense, and everyone else has to do both. WTF :roll:


    right...to me its more that one league has it and the other doesn't though. literally every single year the al team has an incredibly huge built in advantage in the world series. if you step back and think about it, it's amazing that it's been like this for 30 or 40 years...
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  • FearTheBeard
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    In less than 24 hours, pitchers and catchers are reporting to Spring Training! :)
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    The Juggler wrote:


    the dh is the worst rule in all of sports. it's just been around for so long that everyone takes it for granted. but the fact that one league has such a huuuuuuuuuuuge advantage over the other is incredibly not fair. either get rid or it (preferred) or put it in both leagues to make things even. i've hated the dh since i was a baby. utterly stupid rule...
    it killed the giants in the 2002 WS. their DH choices were shawn dunston and shinjo :wtf: . you know you're fucked when your DH is batting 9th.
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...

    Never thought it would get to this point. I agree with the Cards that they can't just hand out $300 mil but they better get damn close. I am crossing my fingers, Pujols hitting free agency would be absolutely awesome.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...

    Never thought it would get to this point. I agree with the Cards that they can't just hand out $300 mil but they better get damn close. I am crossing my fingers, Pujols hitting free agency would be absolutely awesome.

    I dunno if it would be just "handing out" $300 mill. We're talking about a guy who at 31 is already one of the best hitters ever. And its not like the Cardinals are a small market team with shitty attendance....should be interesting to see if they get something done at the last minute here
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...
    they'd survive without him. they were good before he got there; they'd still be marginal contenders if he left :?. I hope he walks....just because larussa is about as pompous an ass as you'll ever find :mrgreen:
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...

    They don't want to pay $30M a year for a 40-year-old who's potentially over the hill and has nothing left. Like the Yanks will be doing with Rodriguez.
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  • Wobbie
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    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...

    They don't want to pay $30M a year for a 40-year-old who's potentially over the hill and has nothing left. Like the Yanks will be doing with Rodriguez.
    hopefully, the yanks eat at least FOUR unproductive years with A-hole :mrgreen:
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  • Cliffy6745
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    imalive wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Indifference71 wrote:
    I really don't get why the Cardinals are struggling to sign Pujols to an extension. Apparently he wants something like 10 years, $300 million. This guy is going to go down as one of the best players ever. Give him whatever he wants....you can't let this guy get to free agency. I just don't get this...

    They don't want to pay $30M a year for a 40-year-old who's potentially over the hill and has nothing left. Like the Yanks will be doing with Rodriguez.
    hopefully, the yanks eat at least FOUR unproductive years with A-hole :mrgreen:

    Unproductive, no. Not worth the $20-$25 million he will be making the last four years, absolutely.
  • The Juggler
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    imalive wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:


    the dh is the worst rule in all of sports. it's just been around for so long that everyone takes it for granted. but the fact that one league has such a huuuuuuuuuuuge advantage over the other is incredibly not fair. either get rid or it (preferred) or put it in both leagues to make things even. i've hated the dh since i was a baby. utterly stupid rule...
    it killed the giants in the 2002 WS. their DH choices were shawn dunston and shinjo :wtf: . you know you're fucked when your DH is batting 9th.

    this happens every year.

    chris coste, greg dobbs, ben francisco and matt stairs were the phils dh's in 2008 and 2009.

    distinct disadvantage every single year.
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  • Kraven
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    Yeah but the American League pitchers have to bat. They're lucky if they have 10 ABs a year. Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping. Josh Beckett is not a better option hitting than David Ortiz.

    Plus how many really premiere DHs are there right now? I can only think of David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero and soon to be Adam Dunn.
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  • The Juggler
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    Kraven wrote:
    Yeah but the American League pitchers have to bat. They're lucky if they have 10 ABs a year. Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping. Josh Beckett is not a better option hitting than David Ortiz.

    Plus how many really premiere DHs are there right now? I can only think of David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero and soon to be Adam Dunn.

    i don't think the pitching argument holds water because all pitchers suck at hitting. it's either a wash or very slight advantage to the nl.

    in contrast the mvp of the '09 series was a dh getting paid 13 million bucks solely to hit the ball...and hit the ball very well.
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  • neilybabes86
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    The Juggler wrote:
    Kraven wrote:
    Yeah but the American League pitchers have to bat. They're lucky if they have 10 ABs a year. Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping. Josh Beckett is not a better option hitting than David Ortiz.

    Plus how many really premiere DHs are there right now? I can only think of David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero and soon to be Adam Dunn.

    i don't think the pitching argument holds water because all pitchers suck at hitting. it's either a wash or very slight advantage to the nl.

    in contrast the mvp of the '09 series was a dh getting paid 13 million bucks solely to hit the ball...and hit the ball very well.


    GODZILLA !!!!! :lol:

    and the nl pitchers hit WAYYYYbetter and bunt 1 million x better so don't say that holds little weight
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  • Wobbie
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    Kraven wrote:
    Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping.
    or...you can leave him in, like Vlad, and watch him absolutely butcher plays in the outfield :mrgreen:
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  • The Juggler
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    edited February 2011
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    The Juggler wrote:
    Kraven wrote:
    Yeah but the American League pitchers have to bat. They're lucky if they have 10 ABs a year. Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping. Josh Beckett is not a better option hitting than David Ortiz.

    Plus how many really premiere DHs are there right now? I can only think of David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero and soon to be Adam Dunn.

    i don't think the pitching argument holds water because all pitchers suck at hitting. it's either a wash or very slight advantage to the nl.

    in contrast the mvp of the '09 series was a dh getting paid 13 million bucks solely to hit the ball...and hit the ball very well.


    GODZILLA !!!!! :lol:

    and the nl pitchers hit WAYYYYbetter and bunt 1 million x better so don't say that holds little weight

    you ever see a pitcher win a world series mvp because of his hitting? :lol: dude....
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  • The Juggler
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    cc sabathia to sign with phillies next year:
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    edited February 2011
    The Juggler wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Kraven wrote:
    Yeah but the American League pitchers have to bat. They're lucky if they have 10 ABs a year. Plus the American League has to take out their DH for those games and when your DH is someone as prolific as say David Ortiz, how is that helping. Josh Beckett is not a better option hitting than David Ortiz.

    Plus how many really premiere DHs are there right now? I can only think of David Ortiz, Vlad Guerrero and soon to be Adam Dunn.




    GODZILLA !!!!! :lol:

    and the nl pitchers hit WAYYYYbetter and bunt 1 million x better so don't say that holds little weight

    you ever see a pitcher win a world series mvp because of his hitting? :lol: dude....


    no ..but don't make it like the pitchers cancel each other out...you know the NL pitchers who bat 3-4 x every 5 days as opposed to 3-4 times per year are a bigger factor
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