Pope blames secular society for clergy sexual abuse

pope benedict XVI is a fool.

i suggest its the religious society the catholic clergy find themselves in that is so much more a factor. chastity is unnnatural.

What an idiot.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-december-15-2010/moment-of-zen---the-pope-watches-male-acrobats-perform

catefrances wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pope benedict XVI is a fool.

i suggest its the religious society the catholic clergy find themselves in that is so much more a factor. chastity is unnnatural.

I think being chased has more to do with self-control.

Obviously the priests who committed these horrible acts had none.

chaste.

i had to read your post twice.. i thought who the hell is chasing them.

and i agree being chaste is about self control... doesnt make it any less unnatural.

Good catch. I need to read my posts more often before I send them!

I don't know anyone who enjoys being chased.

catefrances wrote:

pope benedict XVI is a fool.

i suggest its the religious society the catholic clergy find themselves in that is so much more a factor. chastity is unnnatural.

Exactly. And lets not overlook the effects of sexual repression on the secular society he blames. It is pervasive in society, on many levels that absolutely DO affect ALL of us. The 'moral responsibility' of christians in Western society; their desire to impose their views on non-believers, significantly shapes our attitudes towards sex in general. If he is going to blame society for sexual deviance, he needs to look in the mirror and see how religious sexual repression has affected that society.





Here is the topical, transcripted excerpt from the speech, for anyone interested:

We are well aware of the particular gravity of this sin committed by priests and of our corresponding responsibility. But neither can we remain silent regarding the context of these times in which these events have come to light. There is a market in child pornography that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society. The psychological destruction of children, in which human persons are reduced to articles of merchandise, is a terrifying sign of the times. From Bishops of developing countries I hear again and again how sexual tourism threatens an entire generation and damages its freedom and its human dignity. The Book of Revelation includes among the great sins of Babylon – the symbol of the world’s great irreligious cities – the fact that it trades with bodies and souls and treats them as commodities (cf. Rev 18:13). In this context, the problem of drugs also rears its head, and with increasing force extends its octopus tentacles around the entire world – an eloquent expression of the tyranny of mammon which perverts mankind. No pleasure is ever enough, and the excess of deceiving intoxication becomes a violence that tears whole regions apart – and all this in the name of a fatal misunderstanding of freedom which actually undermines man’s freedom and ultimately destroys it.

In order to resist these forces, we must turn our attention to their ideological foundations. In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos. It was maintained – even within the realm of Catholic theology – that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a "better than" and a "worse than". Nothing is good or bad in itself. Everything depends on the circumstances and on the end in view. Anything can be good or also bad, depending upon purposes and circumstances. Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist. The effects of such theories are evident today. Against them, Pope John Paul II, in his 1993 Encyclical Letter Veritatis Splendor, indicated with prophetic force in the great rational tradition of Christian ethos the essential and permanent foundations of moral action. Today, attention must be focussed anew on this text as a path in the formation of conscience. It is our responsibility to make these criteria audible and intelligible once more for people today as paths of true humanity, in the context of our paramount concern for mankind.

haffajappa wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pope benedict XVI is a fool.

i suggest its the religious society the catholic clergy find themselves in that is so much more a factor. chastity is unnnatural.

he has a cool hat

and it matches his dress.

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Finally, a topic of which everyone is on the same side!

You would think, but remember the one on bullying?
Someone actually disagreed with the idea that bullying needs to stop! :roll: :?

But we always have WBC threads to agree on!

i love how the pope chimes in occasionally on certain topics...as if his word carries much weight at all anymore... :roll: :roll: :roll:

their inactivity during world war II and during the sexual assault trials speaks volumes to me...

and if he admitted fault for anything, it would be a festivus miracle!!!!

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

...as if his word carries much weight at all anymore... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I would suggest that millions of people might disagree with you on that one. that position holds possibly one of the most influential voices on Earth, no matter who holds it.