Bush's torture admission is a dismal moment for democracy

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    I think you obviously have no idea how awful the threat of militant Islam is.

    Is that why you funded death squads in Nicaragua?

    Is that also why you invaded Panama?

    Is it the reason why you continue an illegal blockade of Cuba?
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    I think you obviously have no idea how awful the threat of militant Islam is.

    Is that why you funded death squads in Nicaragua?

    Is that also why you invaded Panama?

    Is it the reason why you continue an illegal blockade of Cuba?

    Nobody knows about this shit. We only know what we are spoon fed.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    oh, come on, godfather, now this sounds like you are "whinning". :lol:

    Godfather. wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    as I said no more than you or anybody else on this board but personally yes I think Saddam had his hand in there some how and I think he helped to fund the attack but thats just my opinion.

    Godfather.

    ok ... so based on this ... i think the people of kentucky were responsible for 9/11 ... i've got no evidence whatsoever but i got that feeling ... so, let's just bomb the shit out of kentucky ... :(

    hayyy now your catching on....to what I don't know, your post was an attack on me with no provocation
    this tells me more about you than I need to know,have a nice day.

    Godfather.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Terrorists deserve no mercy. Period.

    The U.S invasion of Iraq was an act of terrorism.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    whygohome wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    I think you obviously have no idea how awful the threat of militant Islam is.

    Is that why you funded death squads in Nicaragua?

    Is that also why you invaded Panama?

    Is it the reason why you continue an illegal blockade of Cuba?

    Nobody knows about this shit. We only know what we are spoon fed.


    EVERYBODY should know about this shit. ignorance is no excuse. you know your media is bullshit. you know theres more to the story than they tell you. educate yourself.. no one is gonna do it for you.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Paul this was one of those passed around e-mails but I thought you all would get a kick out of it.


    BEST IDEA HEARD IN A LONG, LONG TIME!!!
    Members of Congress should be Compelled to wear uniforms just like NASCAR drivers…
    So we could identify their corporate sponsors.

    Godfather.
  • Green Circle
    Green Circle Posts: 5,192
    Paul,
    Since you brought up the "dead" thread, don't really find it fair that you haven't been banned for provocation....just saying :|
    "...And I fight back in my mind. Never lets me be right.
    I got memories. I got shit so much it don't show."
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Boo Boo wrote:
    Paul,
    Since you brought up the "dead" thread, don't really find it fair that you haven't been banned for provocation....just saying :|

    Let it be - it's up to the mods. No need to stir things up again.

    Back to the subject of the thread....
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Boo Boo wrote:
    Paul,
    Since you brought up the "dead" thread, don't really find it fair that you haven't been banned for provocation....just saying :|

    What's provocative about the mere mention of another thread? Looks to me like you're the one stirring shit up here, not Paul David....just saying.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Boo Boo wrote:
    Paul,
    Since you brought up the "dead" thread, don't really find it fair that you haven't been banned for provocation....just saying :|

    What's provocative about the mere mention of another thread? Looks to me like you're the one stirring shit up here, not Paul David....just saying.


    I looked through that thread and I really still don;t see why anyone would be banned over that. All controversial discussions will tend to get heated and even a bit personal from time to time, if you let it go, it comes back to a good discussion once that is out of some people's systems. Then again, this ain't my show, it's theirs.

    On the subject at hand, I'm not really sure how I feel about the admission. Still have to process it.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i looked at the last few pages of the death penalty thread and honestly couldn't find anything worth a locking of the thread let alone a ban ...

    i'm guessing someone alerted the mods and they felt compelled to act ...

    in any case - i want to commend godfather for admitting that his knowledge of us foreign policy was limited and that he is willing to read up ... as corny as it sounds ... the truth shall set us free ...

    we would all probably agree 95% of the time if our understandings of situations were the same and included all the information ...
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    catefrances wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Is that why you funded death squads in Nicaragua?

    Is that also why you invaded Panama?

    Is it the reason why you continue an illegal blockade of Cuba?

    Nobody knows about this shit. We only know what we are spoon fed.


    EVERYBODY should know about this shit. ignorance is no excuse. you know your media is bullshit. you know theres more to the story than they tell you. educate yourself.. no one is gonna do it for you.

    I have friends who love Reagan. I had a student who said Reagan was his favorite President. Knowing this type of shit that yoou listed - the truth - would be like us finding out Eddie lip-synched in concert.

    Nobody educates themselves - we are a lazy society with too many distractions.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    i looked at the last few pages of the death penalty thread and honestly couldn't find anything worth a locking of the thread let alone a ban ...

    i'm guessing someone alerted the mods and they felt compelled to act ...

    in any case - i want to commend godfather for admitting that his knowledge of us foreign policy was limited and that he is willing to read up ... as corny as it sounds ... the truth shall set us free ...

    we would all probably agree 95% of the time if our understandings of situations were the same and included all the information ...

    thanks, got them locked in on my fav's and am reading.

    Godfather.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    edited March 2011
    see the dog
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    i looked at the last few pages of the death penalty thread and honestly couldn't find anything worth a locking of the thread let alone a ban ...

    i'm guessing someone alerted the mods and they felt compelled to act ...
    I'm thinking that the person who reports a flaming post may not get punished. Just a guess though.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    actually, boo boo, I didn't. someone else did. I merely responded to it. But that's neither here nor there. it was a post that has more to do with this thread than it did the other, and it was right before it got locked, so the question asked was not responded to. Triumphant thought it relevant, as do I.

    and what am I provoking exactly? my question had nothing to do with the subject of the other thread.
    redrock wrote:
    Boo Boo wrote:
    Paul,
    Since you brought up the "dead" thread, don't really find it fair that you haven't been banned for provocation....just saying :|

    Let it be - it's up to the mods. No need to stir things up again.

    Back to the subject of the thread....
    Gimli 1993
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    Winnipeg 2005
    Winnipeg 2011
    St. Paul 2014
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Terrorists deserve no mercy. Period.

    The U.S invasion of Iraq was an act of terrorism.

    Nah, it's only terrorism when someone else does it. When you do it, it's called "making your country safer." :lol:
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    Half Full wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    catefrances wrote:


    EVERYBODY should know about this shit. ignorance is no excuse. you know your media is bullshit. you know theres more to the story than they tell you. educate yourself.. no one is gonna do it for you.

    I have friends who love Reagan. I had a student who said Reagan was his favorite President. Knowing this type of shit that yoou listed - the truth - would be like us finding out Eddie lip-synched in concert.

    Nobody educates themselves - we are a lazy society with too many distractions.

    Look how cute that doggie is in the grass!

    He is quite distracting!! :mrgreen:
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    I would like to learn about foreign policy in the united states

    You could do worse than to watch this: The Secret Government: The Constitution in Crisis http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... f1p&hl=en#


    Or this: The Panama Deception: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 473591816#

    The Panama Deception Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDeGTCHAJM
  • Eilian
    Eilian Posts: 276
    For the life of me I can't understand why Bush has opened his gob about it now.

    I'm a little uncomfortable with politicians being able to divulge such sensitive details about an administration once they've left,...much like Tony Blair's memoirs,...I find it slightly distasteful.

    It's very easy to understand that torture can produce very unreliable information, BUT, it is impossible for any of us to understand the pressure of having to make decisions on which lives that you have been elected to protect may depend.

    I'm not defending George, he's a train wreck of a man,...just thought I should introduce some shade of grey to the otherwise black or white of previous posts.

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