My thoughts on Pearl Jam's Live On Ten Legs...

I agree that they could have done something better.

I disagree that the majority of fans will buy anything.

I consider myself a dedicated fan yet I'm not jumping in line for this upcoming release. I own ALL of their bootlegs. Having a handful of them on a CD when I listen to the ipod more than anything makes very little sense.

Good for them for releasing something...but more than anything I find it kinda weird that they release a compilation of live stuff when we can all get nearly any of their live shows that we want - most of them for free.

On the other hand, I doubt this took up a huge amount of their time, so it's not like it's cutting into studio time or anything. I just wish Soundgarden would break up again and Brad stopped releasing mediocre albums so the real PJ could just get their asses together for a new album

lostdogs89 wrote:

Eliot Rosewater wrote:

I agree that they could have done something better.

I disagree that the majority of fans will buy anything.

I consider myself a dedicated fan yet I'm not jumping in line for this upcoming release. I own ALL of their bootlegs. Having a handful of them on a CD when I listen to the ipod more than anything makes very little sense.

Good for them for releasing something...but more than anything I find it kinda weird that they release a compilation of live stuff when we can all get nearly any of their live shows that we want - most of them for free.

On the other hand, I doubt this took up a huge amount of their time, so it's not like it's cutting into studio time or anything. I just wish Soundgarden would break up again and Brad stopped releasing mediocre albums so the real PJ could just get their asses together for a new album

Hell I wish all the guys in the band were single and were poor and had shitty lives like most of us so we can the angry rock Pearl Jam... Maybe they need Dave back hahaha

twenty year ago they were...

If it doesn't interest you, there's no reason to buy it. Who cares?

I'm really excited, mainly as I can't wait to hear Brett Eliason's new mixes of the recent live stuff. That's good enough for me, to be honest.

wolfamongwolves wrote:

I remember when new Pearl Jam stuff came out, it was an occasion for excitement. Now it just every time appears to be an occasion for bitching about how it should have been better. You know what else they could have done? Nothing. Would you have preferred that?

Pearl Jam have spoiled us, and we should be grateful. Instead, we've just become spoilt.

i dont get this. would i prefer they did nothing? considering all of this stuff is readily available already they have done nothing! its like people keep saying things like "its live PJ so I'm buying!" which is cool and if you want to thats great, but its literally already available! hahah

i guess if you are one of those merch hoarders it could be a good buy too, but i try to avoid collecting things.

its a crappy setlist, and boring concept, but if you like it go buy it. I really have no problem if people think its the greatest thing ever. why can't the sycophants be the same way if people, god forbid, actually mention that it isnt all that?

MrSmith wrote:

wolfamongwolves wrote:

I remember when new Pearl Jam stuff came out, it was an occasion for excitement. Now it just every time appears to be an occasion for bitching about how it should have been better. You know what else they could have done? Nothing. Would you have preferred that?

Pearl Jam have spoiled us, and we should be grateful. Instead, we've just become spoilt.

i dont get this. would i prefer they did nothing? considering all of this stuff is readily available already they have done nothing! its like people keep saying things like "its live PJ so I'm buying!" which is cool and if you want to thats great, but its literally already available! hahah

Maybe you should re-read what I wrote before the bit you quoted. Basically, if you don't like then, that's ok, because "this is not for you", and there are plenty of other fairweather fans who will be happy with it, because they don't want to buy every bootleg. Plus, as has been pointed out - it's remixed. And another thing. No album is just a collection of individual, stand-alone songs. There is a lot to be said for how it is put together as a set, how it flows, what it conveys. And if you look around this board, you'll see plenty of threads where people are puutting together their own compilations from what's "readily available" so I guess you the Ten Club could be forgiven :roll: for thinking that it might actually be something that's right up our street.

MrSmith wrote:

its a crappy setlist, and boring concept, but if you like it go buy it. I really have no problem if people think its the greatest thing ever. why can't the sycophants be the same way if people, god forbid, actually mention that it isnt all that?

Look, you're entitled to express your opinion and to not think it's great - that's fine. But it's the constant whining and bitching from across the board that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I find it a bit rich to say you have "no problem" with people liking it, and then in the same sentence call them "sychophants". That's low.

dislocated wrote:

:roll:

You make an eloquent point, I must admit...

MrSmith wrote:

wolfamongwolves wrote:

I remember when new Pearl Jam stuff came out, it was an occasion for excitement. Now it just every time appears to be an occasion for bitching about how it should have been better. You know what else they could have done? Nothing. Would you have preferred that?

Pearl Jam have spoiled us, and we should be grateful. Instead, we've just become spoilt.

i dont get this. would i prefer they did nothing? considering all of this stuff is readily available already they have done nothing! its like people keep saying things like "its live PJ so I'm buying!" which is cool and if you want to thats great, but its literally already available! hahah

i guess if you are one of those merch hoarders it could be a good buy too, but i try to avoid collecting things.

its a crappy setlist, and boring concept, but if you like it go buy it. I really have no problem if people think its the greatest thing ever. why can't the sycophants be the same way if people, god forbid, actually mention that it isnt all that?

i agree with this. This release seems pretty blah to me - i don't see it having any effect on non-fans or mediocre fans. there is no juice to this release frankly. In a music world that is ever changing releasing an 18 song live album that won't get any radio play, doesn't have any features that can be used via the internet seems a bit dated to me. Where is the innovation in this. I don't see an audience for this release frankly - but that's just my opinion - i could be wrong but i don't think i am.

When I see PJ releasing another live album it reminds of what I think when I see that Aerosmith is releasing another greatest hits album...haven't they released this stuff several times already? I mean who doesn't have live PJ albums from the past 7 years, and why 7 years anyway? Is that because the first one covered the first 7 years and TB2000 covered up to 2000? Come on, release some unreleased shit, where are all the songs from the Lost Dogs booklet that you can read on the reals that have never been released? :roll:

Eilian wrote:

It does seem a little like Pearl Jam selectively emptying its bins and selling it.

I say selectively because i'm sure there are many albums worth of un-heard studio stuff in those bins worth at least an occasional listen to.

I've a similar issue with the Christmas single being some random live outtake when even the shittiest original studio number would please me no end.

Making bootlegs readily available like they do is awesome,...but it does appear to make additional live releases somewhat pointless.

Very valid point..

but 12.99 plus shipping isn't that bad for a nice produced product... cover.. sleeve perhaps.. and completely remastered.

The Severed Hand wrote:

One word sums up my reason for purchasing Live On Ten Legs ... VINYL. Eighteen Live tracks on Double Vinyl. It makes me salivate just thinking about it.

ditto. the cd is not big deal, but getting some live material for the record player is a must! I'd buy the special edition if it was 60 bucks, but it's not so no big deal.