If you are Obama on wednesday

fife
fife Posts: 3,327
edited November 2010 in A Moving Train
by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm just hoping the out of control spending stops.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?
    nothing will get done. he has done nothing but compromise so far to this point. he came in promising change, but was defeated by the gop and the blue dogs in his own party. the word "NO!!" has been very powerful against him. he could have nominated jesus for the supreme court and not one republican would have voted for it.

    the government is going to be shut down because the first thing the gop in the house will do is begin impeachment hearings and subpoenas, which the dems could have done, they could have sought to prosecute bush and co, but they took the high road. they will try to re-peal everything that has been done so far, so nothing will get done. nothing of substance anyway, because it is going to be so watered down.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    I'm just hoping the out of control spending stops.

    where would you cut spending from? healthcare, education, research, military etc etc?
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    It looks like Dems will hold the senate... But in this political climate, I'd be surprised if anything gets passed... The House will work on crap that will never make it in the Senate, and the Senate will pass crap that will die in the House.

    You figure the first six months, the anti-spending tea party guys will flex their muscles and not vote for any dem bills, and any tea party bills won't get dem votes.

    Then after that honeymoon period wears off and everyone starts hearing from their districts that they need jobs/money/etc, and special interest groups start calling in favors, they will start working together... but by then, the 2012 candidates will start to emerge, and everything will be back to us vs them partisan crap..
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    blackredyellow wrote:
    It looks like Dems will hold the senate... But in this political climate, I'd be surprised if anything gets passed... The House will work on crap that will never make it in the Senate, and the Senate will pass crap that will die in the House.

    You figure the first six months, the anti-spending tea party guys will flex their muscles and not vote for any dem bills, and any tea party bills won't get dem votes.

    Then after that honeymoon period wears off and everyone starts hearing from their districts that they need jobs/money/etc, and special interest groups start calling in favors, they will start working together... but by then, the 2012 candidates will start to emerge, and everything will be back to us vs them partisan crap..
    I concur 100%... This same record has been skipping for years and it seems to get worse as time marches on...
    Is there a solution?
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?



    end the war in Afghanistan, veto bills brought to him by a republican congress that are not good compromises, but support efforts made by moderates, republicans and democrats a like. also, be transparent. he promised us transparency and all we got was a copy of the last 8 years.
    Be strong and stick to his guns, democrats will be much more likely to support him in a couple years if he stands strong and sticks by what he has accomplished.
    I would also try to pass legislation that makes it illegal to deny someone a license based on sexual preference. That would include, hunting, driver's, and MARRIAGE. The national dialog on the gay marriage debate needs to start being controlled by the good guys.
    End the estate tax.
    Lower capital gains to next to nothing to increase investment, while introducing a vat/sales tax on everything except necessities that lowers income taxes for everyone.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    I would love to hear from Tea party here also. do you agree with what people are saying?

    In Canada,we have a thing called a non-confidence motion. a non-confidence motion is a motion in the House of Commons, which, if passed, means that the government has lost the confidence of the House. The government must then either resign or ask the governor general to dissolve Parliament and call an election. many people in Canada hate this cause it means that you can have many elections in many years but looking at American politics right now am so happy to that have this.

    I just can't believe that a country like the Unites states does seem to have a problem with having their government not do anything for the people of the country.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?
    nothing will get done. he has done nothing but compromise so far to this point. he came in promising change, but was defeated by the gop and the blue dogs in his own party. the word "NO!!" has been very powerful against him. he could have nominated jesus for the supreme court and not one republican would have voted for it.

    the government is going to be shut down because the first thing the gop in the house will do is begin impeachment hearings and subpoenas, which the dems could have done, they could have sought to prosecute bush and co, but they took the high road. they will try to re-peal everything that has been done so far, so nothing will get done. nothing of substance anyway, because it is going to be so watered down.

    you really believe they will begin impeachment hearings on Obama?
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?
    nothing will get done. he has done nothing but compromise so far to this point. he came in promising change, but was defeated by the gop and the blue dogs in his own party. the word "NO!!" has been very powerful against him. he could have nominated jesus for the supreme court and not one republican would have voted for it.

    the government is going to be shut down because the first thing the gop in the house will do is begin impeachment hearings and subpoenas, which the dems could have done, they could have sought to prosecute bush and co, but they took the high road. they will try to re-peal everything that has been done so far, so nothing will get done. nothing of substance anyway, because it is going to be so watered down.

    you really believe they will begin impeachment hearings on Obama?
    On what charge? He has not shown his Birth Certificate?
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Black Diamond wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    It looks like Dems will hold the senate... But in this political climate, I'd be surprised if anything gets passed... The House will work on crap that will never make it in the Senate, and the Senate will pass crap that will die in the House.

    You figure the first six months, the anti-spending tea party guys will flex their muscles and not vote for any dem bills, and any tea party bills won't get dem votes.

    Then after that honeymoon period wears off and everyone starts hearing from their districts that they need jobs/money/etc, and special interest groups start calling in favors, they will start working together... but by then, the 2012 candidates will start to emerge, and everything will be back to us vs them partisan crap..
    I concur 100%... This same record has been skipping for years and it seems to get worse as time marches on...
    Is there a solution?
    honestly, i don't see a solution. your country is so divided (i know John Stewart would not agree with me on that one) but i am just saying what i see and from people i talk to from america
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    he should just hire jon stewart as his press secretary, how awesome would that be
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?



    end the war in Afghanistan, veto bills brought to him by a republican congress that are not good compromises, but support efforts made by moderates, republicans and democrats a like. also, be transparent. he promised us transparency and all we got was a copy of the last 8 years.
    Be strong and stick to his guns, democrats will be much more likely to support him in a couple years if he stands strong and sticks by what he has accomplished.
    I would also try to pass legislation that makes it illegal to deny someone a license based on sexual preference. That would include, hunting, driver's, and MARRIAGE. The national dialog on the gay marriage debate needs to start being controlled by the good guys.
    End the estate tax.
    Lower capital gains to next to nothing to increase investment, while introducing a vat/sales tax on everything except necessities that lowers income taxes for everyone.

    I don't think Obama wants to end the war (he did say that he would put more troops when he was running for president. I know this may seem dumb but is there anymore Moderate Rep or democrats left? concerning gay marriage, i don't see that one passing. but your other ideas seem reasonable, thanks.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    fife wrote:
    by most accounts, the democrats are going to lose the house and possibly the senate on tuesday. this is going to make things much harder for President Obama to do many things that he may want to have done. President Obama will have to make compromises on many things. So my questions to everyone year will be what would you do in the next 2 years based on what you think can be passed as compared to what you want done?
    nothing will get done. he has done nothing but compromise so far to this point. he came in promising change, but was defeated by the gop and the blue dogs in his own party. the word "NO!!" has been very powerful against him. he could have nominated jesus for the supreme court and not one republican would have voted for it.

    the government is going to be shut down because the first thing the gop in the house will do is begin impeachment hearings and subpoenas, which the dems could have done, they could have sought to prosecute bush and co, but they took the high road. they will try to re-peal everything that has been done so far, so nothing will get done. nothing of substance anyway, because it is going to be so watered down.

    you really believe they will begin impeachment hearings on Obama?
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
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    you really believe they will begin impeachment hearings on Obama?[/quote]
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.[/quote]

    do you care about elaborating? You seem to have strong sense of this and i just want to hear more about why you think so.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -gop-house
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -gop-house
    i guarantee they will try to tie him to the blago/seat selling scandal, or they will bring up something from his past in chicago. you watch. that is what the fucking republicans do. they seek vengeance for real or perceived wrongs at the expense of doing anything to actually help people other than the rich.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -gop-house

    very interesting article. thanks Mike!
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i absolutely believe they will find something to impeach him for. they have been looking for something since day one of his presidency.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -gop-house
    i guarantee they will try to tie him to the blago/seat selling scandal, or they will bring up something from his past in chicago. you watch. that is what the fucking republicans do. they seek vengeance for real or perceived wrongs at the expense of doing anything to actually help people other than the rich.



    I guess there is no convincing you. :lol::lol:

    If I judged any group as harshly as you judge and lump together republicans I woud be called a bigot and probably suspeneded from the boards. ;)
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    fife wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I'm just hoping the out of control spending stops.

    where would you cut spending from? healthcare, education, research, military etc etc?


    Yes
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    unsung wrote:
    fife wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I'm just hoping the out of control spending stops.

    where would you cut spending from? healthcare, education, research, military etc etc?


    Yes

    can you elaborate on that.

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