O.A.R. inspired by PJ

sgossard3 wrote:

cool cool! yah its a good time!

DAMMIT... just before this post i had a whole 2 paragraph rant about shitting "jam bands" (OAR, DMB... as well as more accepted ones like umphreys, moe, yonder, string cheese, etc) and how there hasnt been a legit band deserving of the title "jam band" since phish... i wont repeat everything i said but it was pretty eloquent and mentioned some good 60s and 70s jams... and totally put to bed the whole idea of OAR being any good... damn porch always having technical difficulty and freezing just when i write my best shit

basically i dont care what anyone listens to as long as they dont try to justify its merit to me with bullshit reasons

Just one question: I can't speak to O.A.R but regarding DMB, have you ever seen them live? I think their last few albums have kind of sucked but I have always thought they put on a really good show and had some great jams. Does a band have to jam out on a song for a half hour like Phish or the Greatful Dead in order to be a "jam" band? Most bands just play their songs man. Other bands like PJ and DMB spice it up more. In fact, DMB jams out a lot more than Pearl Jam does and for a longer time.

Come Back in Black wrote:

Just one question: I can't speak to O.A.R but regarding DMB, have you ever seen them live? I think their last few albums have kind of sucked but I have always thought they put on a really good show and had some great jams. Does a band have to jam out on a song for a half hour like Phish or the Greatful Dead in order to be a "jam" band? Most bands just play their songs man. Other bands like PJ and DMB spice it up more. In fact, DMB jams out a lot more than Pearl Jam does and for a longer time.

i have seen DMB live 3 times (friend in the warehouse)... i liked it for what it was and the atmosphere, but i have fun at soccer games for the atmosphere too and absolutely hate soccer... and to be a "jam band" you must know how to jam in general regardless of length... good jam bands can keep your attention throughout a jam even if it is 45 minutes long... and "most bands" atleast the ones i mentioned dont just play their songs, they make attempts at jamming that are dull... please dont lump DMB in with PJ or compare them... PJ doesnt "jam" really all that much at all with the exception of RVM, porch, a few other live variations... but then we could get into the difference between soloing and jamming with is a whole other matter... and the abundance and lengthiness with DMB's "jams" is my problem with them in the first place...

sgossard3 wrote:

i have seen DMB live 3 times (friend in the warehouse)... i liked it for what it was and the atmosphere, but i have fun at soccer games for the atmosphere too and absolutely hate soccer... and to be a "jam band" you must know how to jam in general regardless of length... good jam bands can keep your attention throughout a jam even if it is 45 minutes long... and "most bands" atleast the ones i mentioned dont just play their songs, they make attempts at jamming that are dull... please dont lump DMB in with PJ or compare them... PJ doesnt "jam" really all that much at all with the exception of RVM, porch, a few other live variations... but then we could get into the difference between soloing and jamming with is a whole other matter... and the abundance and lengthiness with DMB's "jams" is my problem with them in the first place...

Hey so at least we agree on where PJ stands as far as being a "jam" band. That was my point being that you are obviously a Pearl Jam fan regardless that they are not a "Jam" band. So your issue is that you don't like it that people refer to DMB as a "jam" band because you don't consider them one either. Correct? And I wasn't talking about the bands you mentioned. I was saying at concerts in general mosts bands run through their set lists and don't mix things up nearly as much as DMB or Pearl Jam does. That's all I'm saying.

OAR is a nice change of pace once in a while. I don't mind them at all. A few songs of theirs are really good. Crazy Game of Poker was a huge college drinking song for me and my friends

They came to college when I was there and put on a decent show, nothing incredible though.

I didnt really read through more then the first page so I dont know if this has been mentioned. But they cover Release and Footsteps as well. I used to love OAR then I saw them live twice. I cant stand them anymore. Seeing them live really ruined everything for me. They were horrible each time. Probably the worse concert ive been too...and Ive been to quiet a lot of bad concerts.