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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I hope that the supporters of the WM3 don't forget about the other WM3...the ones that are no longer living...and are very respectful if they show up.

    I know I'd be respectful if people who were no longer living showed up! :shock: ;)

    Anyway, I sure hope justice - whatever that may be - prevails. And I hope we will actually know for certain that it has prevailed.

    So do people have internet access in prison? Just wondering. (I'm thinking probably not.)
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    I'm already halfway through 30th Sept. The day is just beginning for Damien Echols and all those involved in the trial today. I wonder if he was able to sleep or rest at all. I really hope so. Even though he will not be present in court today, I can only begin to imagine the wrenching in his guts at the thought of what is happening today.

    Although I'm feeling down myself today and facing my own challenges, I'd like to send all my hope to Damien and my strength to those fighting for his cause today. My thoughts are with you. May justice prevail and be restored so others like Damien, Jason & Jessie will also be afforded some hope.
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • dasvidana
    dasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,356
    Just watched the oral arguments presented and it just seems like such a no-brainer. The state really looked like it was trying to be obstructive as a matter of pride. I really think they just don't want to admit they made mistakes. Riordan did a good job, although I was hoping he would say more on the false confessions since the state and the public seem to be relying heavily on that. I really hope good things come from today's hearing.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,126
    Agreed...from the police dept up, they don't want to admit mistakes....fucking tragic
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  • _
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    I don't get it. I haven't had a chance to watch today's arguments, but I can't find anything about the results. When will we know the court's decision? I guess they have to take some time to think about it.
  • ChampagneBrkfst
    ChampagneBrkfst Posts: 114
    Arguments have concluded. It seems as though the Justices will render a decision on this in 2-3 weeks. You can read more about it here.

    http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2010 ... n-morning/
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  • _
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    What admission by Damien is the state's lawyer talking about?
  • _
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    Our criminal justice system is such a fucking joke. It's like a big game - only people's lives are at stake.

    I just watched the arguments and think they had good points on both sides. I'm glad I'm not a judge. It kind of seemed like they were leaning toward the defense though. Does anyone else feel that way?
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    scb wrote:
    What admission by Damien is the state's lawyer talking about?

    I just finished watching the archived video and I was wondering the same too. The only thing that comes to mind is the hearsay evidence that he had said, whilst at a softball game, that he did it and already has another victim picked out. If that's what they mean, that's a very shaky leg to stand on.

    Now we wait.
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • _
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    sickofit wrote:
    scb wrote:
    What admission by Damien is the state's lawyer talking about?

    I just finished watching the archived video and I was wondering the same too. The only thing that comes to mind is the hearsay evidence that he had said, whilst at a softball game, that he did it and already has another victim picked out. If that's what they mean, that's a very shaky leg to stand on.

    Now we wait.

    Oh yeah - that's probably what they meant. Smart thinking! (I hadn't really thought of that as a confession, personally.)
  • gecko
    gecko Posts: 1,712
    ChampagneBrkfst wrote:
    Arguments have concluded. It seems as though the Justices will render a decision on this in 2-3 weeks. You can read more about it here.

    http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2010 ... n-morning/

    Thanks, watching the video right now.
  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,912
    I just watched the video of the court proceedings and I think Mr. Echols laywer made a compelling case for a new trial. It seems the judges of the Supreme court of Arkansas felt this same way since at one point one asked the DA "what would be the harm in granting a new hearing?"

    Now 2-3wks of waiting......
  • drewski_662
    drewski_662 Posts: 52
    I thought this was gonna be on Anderson Cooper tonight???
  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    I really feel like a shit after watching parts of Damien Echols sincere interview from prison. I'm pretty sure that any doubt I had about him at 18 is pretty much gone. Although he was smart enough back then to pull off a crime scene with little to no evidence, it is quite impossible for any human to pull that off I would think. After reading others responses and understanding more of the facts of the case, I really have come to the conclusion that the detectives and police really did a botched up job of the whole thing--along with the defense attorney leaving out testimonies to friends who talked to him on the phone and people who saw him at the time of the murders. I don't know anything about the bad juror that is now being brought to light. I'm so glad that they have more evidence and that their voices are finally getting heard by people that can actually help them. Good luck to them.
  • gecko
    gecko Posts: 1,712
    drewski_662 wrote:
    I thought this was gonna be on Anderson Cooper tonight???
    Bumped again? Not cool.
  • sickofit
    sickofit Norway Posts: 780
    scb wrote:
    sickofit wrote:
    scb wrote:
    What admission by Damien is the state's lawyer talking about?

    I just finished watching the archived video and I was wondering the same too. The only thing that comes to mind is the hearsay evidence that he had said, whilst at a softball game, that he did it and already has another victim picked out. If that's what they mean, that's a very shaky leg to stand on.

    Now we wait.

    Oh yeah - that's probably what they meant. Smart thinking! (I hadn't really thought of that as a confession, personally.)

    Me neither. But there is a difference between 'confession' and 'admisiion'. The former is a complete acknowledgement of guilt whereas the latter is simply where an accused person admits to a fact which can then be used to incriminate him. In this case, since Damien's 'admission' would be deemed inculpatory, it is admissible evidence :ugeek:
    if I keep holding out,.... will the light shine through?
  • coachchris
    coachchris Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
    They are simply referring to the Miskelly admission. It was not to be allowed in the first trial for Damien and Jason whereas if they are retried, it would be admissable at that point. That's why Riordan said that they would "welcome" that confession as they have DNA evidence and solid alibis to refute said confession.

    Don't forget that Riordan also said that 25% of the 280(ish) people that have since been released because of DNA sampling once confessed to the crime eventhough they were completely innocent.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    if the parents of the victims don't think they did it ... that's gotta tell ya something ...
  • he.who.forgets
    he.who.forgets Posts: 4,593
    for those who may not have read this yet:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39444933
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  • _
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    sickofit wrote:
    Me neither. But there is a difference between 'confession' and 'admisiion'. The former is a complete acknowledgement of guilt whereas the latter is simply where an accused person admits to a fact which can then be used to incriminate him. In this case, since Damien's 'admission' would be deemed inculpatory, it is admissible evidence :ugeek:

    Another good point! I don't remember whether the lawyer said "confession" or "admission," do you?
    coachchris wrote:
    They are simply referring to the Miskelly admission.

    They definitely spoke of a confession/admission by Damien as well. But I think sickofit is right that they are referring to what he supposedly said that the girls overheard.

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