Just went to a screening of Katherine Heigl and Josh Duhamel romantic comedy, "LIFE as We Know It". and there is nothing wrong with this film. it is as you would expect... however, in the middle of the film, JUST BREATHE was used....i dont know how everyone feels but i m not able to stand this. suddenly eddie vedder songs or pearl jam songs are used in hollywood films which i dont see why they said yes to??? they dont care anymore? or they need money????? how u think? u dont mind either???
Well you went to this movie. Is it okay for you to support the movie and then unsuitable for pearl jam to be involved? Double standards methinks. I'm not ragging on you but I do think this is a pertinent point.
i still dont understand why everyone talks like all the movies and tvs are the same.
they are not the same. just like you like pearl jam but not the other meaningless bands.....
but like someone pointed out, its very subjective. and you might love the meaningless other bands as much as you love pearl jam.
it was very interesting to know that not so many PJ fans do not care about it.
so, thank you everyone!
Here's a list of movies PJ songs or Ed Vedder songs have been in. Sorry if I miss a few.
Singles
Judgement Night
Big Fish
Into the WIld
Eat Pray Love
Reign Over Me
I Am Sam
Dead Man Walking
And now this movie
Why would anyone be surprised to hear a PJ song in a movie?
Not to mention songs in
Friends (the most watched Friends at that)
The Castle
and an entire Law and Order episode dedicated to their music
you mean Cold Case. And it's just Castle
And FlashFoward.
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I wonder how people felt when they heard Yellow Ledbetter on the Friends finale?
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I completely understand. The same thing happened with Beatles' songs. They never wanted any of their music to be used for stuff like commercials, but Michael Jackson got a hold of them and they have been used in more commercials than I can count off the top of my head right now. I know it's not the exact same thing because PJ is allowing theirs to be used, I'm not sure of their reasoning for this,who knows? I see it two ways, one being a "sell-out" like they fought many years to avoid the other being smart business sense and it exposes people to great music in the sea of crap that usually infest most soundtracks to popular movies.
I completely understand. The same thing happened with Beatles' songs. They never wanted any of their music to be used for stuff like commercials, but Michael Jackson got a hold of them and they have been used in more commercials than I can count off the top of my head right now. I know it's not the exact same thing because PJ is allowing theirs to be used, I'm not sure of their reasoning for this,who knows? I see it two ways, one being a "sell-out" like they fought many years to avoid the other being smart business sense and it exposes people to great music in the sea of crap that usually infest most soundtracks to popular movies.
I hope someone gets a hold of The Beatles' songs. I'm happy they're not on iTunes.
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Since when is a movie a commercial? Isn't film considered art?
since when is katherine heigl romantic comedy art? i dont think anyone who involved in this film thought they were making a art film.
its like saying both goo goo dolls and pearl jam are making art. sorry if there are goo goo dolls fan here. and ive never heard goo goo dolls seriously so i can be totally wrong. but to me, pearl jam music has meanings. i just hope they choose meaningful films.
You've seen the movie?
Eye of the beholder....
And if nothing else, movie theatres usually have bitchin sound systems so at least you get to hear PJ on a wicked stereo...
I don't care what 98% of the sycophants on this board say about this issue. It really fucking bothers me that they have been selling their songs to these shitty unimaginative, uninspired and unoriginal tv shows and movies. Its fucking lame and how much money do these fucking guys really need. And by the way they are not getting the music out to any new fans by doing this. The only people who buy PJ records these days are us,the faithful. Its counter productive and against everything the band first stood for. Thats not growing up, its fucking selling out ! This is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
going back to whether or not movies and films are "art"
to me (a film making hobbiest) film isn't art, it is a conglomerate of different art forms. People design sets, design costumes (both visual art forms), someone wrote the script (literature), people acted in the film and directed the film (theater arts) and people wrote the god damn music and lyrics (musical art) all of these combine to tell a story whether it's a horrible story or a brilliant one.
i see the screen as a museum. a museum where as you travel from room to room (scene to scene), a story is being told. film is a collaboration of art forms and if pearl jam wants to be involved in the collaboration, then let them. are they selling you a product? no. has their style changed at all to conform to a larger demographic? no. so therefore i see no "selling out".
collaborative art is a brilliant technique to create some crazy stuff, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but you can't hate on an artist for trying. after all, that's how art is created isn't it? trial and error.
There's a good article in the most recent Rolling Stone written by U2's manager about this type of stuff...not relating to PJ but just how the piracy thing has basically changed the industry so much that everybody has to do things a little differently than they would have thought of in the past in order to make a living at it. As for the overall idea of art, sure, I see a lot of meaning in the music personally and love it dearly, but at the same time the band still has a goal of making money and a living at this, so you got to do what you got to do.
We all do the same thing.
I read the same article and it is a great article. Subcription music is the way to go now-a-days (Rhapsody is the best one). I do not see why people do not use subcription music.
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Seriously... this is a surprise how? It started with Singles and has not stopped. In fact it went full on immediately! Judgement Night Soundtrack anyone??? They have always been heavily involved with film, as they should be being artists, and supporting other artists. I don't understand your beef? I enjoy when I hear them in a film or on TV. I know when I hear it that they are NOT doing it for promotion. They are doing it to lend to the film. Are they promoting backspacer now? No. The filmmakers asked to use their song and they obliged as they always have and will.
seriously??? do you enjoy hearing the song in this particular film??
sorry but i did not at all. it almost broke my heart. actually the song was used in the heartbroken moment. haha!!!!
i m not saying they should not give every film a permission. i just hope they choose a film. i dont mind if the song is used in a great film like "Into the Wild" but not this film. is this too much to ask?
into the wild is irrelevant because it was a soundtrack composed by eddie.
i don't see the problem if their songs are used in films (good or bad). i enjoy hearing pearl jam wherever it may be. the most pleasant surprise being californication!
they've been putting their music in film since the early 90's... so it's obviously nothing new. i understand that your beef is with the type of movie, which i can empathize with to a certain extent. but maybe one of the filmmakers, or actors/actresses, is friends with ed/stone/jeff/mike/matt and asked to use it as a personal favour. you never know!
ps
i just watched the trailer and that movie looks like it COULD be cute lol
Assuming there's no moral reason not to put their music in movies (which I realize that is still open for debate), then take at least the soundness of the business move. Pearl Jam, from a marketing perspective, is a brand. As a result, i would argue it does affect the brand whether you decide to put a song in a movie like Into the Wild versus crappy Katherine Heigel flick. Yes, the intent is probably to get exposure to a broader audience but you have to be careful of not harming the brand.
It's def not the early 90s anymore and clearly the rules of the music industry have changed but its a delicate balance on how to earn a buck and maintain the image you want to project. Obviously the music speaks for itslef to hardcore fans like us. Its get tricky when the band wants more than us to experience their art.
Be sure to check out my buddy's show, Gun-it with Benny Spies on VS Friday night at 9pm. They negotiated with the band to use Evolution as their "theme song"
MJ91..I can understand what your saying and when I first read your post I, too, was outraged 'cause the commercials for that movie want to make me vomit! But if for some odd reason I did wind up seeing that movie, at least I could enjoy a moment or two listening to 'the boys' play a bit, but then I would also be pissed such a crap-assed movie was chosen. But it's their music and their choice and I'll never mind hearing them wherever and whenever I can!
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Assuming there's no moral reason not to put their music in movies (which I realize that is still open for debate), then take at least the soundness of the business move. Pearl Jam, from a marketing perspective, is a brand. As a result, i would argue it does affect the brand whether you decide to put a song in a movie like Into the Wild versus crappy Katherine Heigel flick. Yes, the intent is probably to get exposure to a broader audience but you have to be careful of not harming the brand.
It's def not the early 90s anymore and clearly the rules of the music industry have changed but its a delicate balance on how to earn a buck and maintain the image you want to project. Obviously the music speaks for itslef to hardcore fans like us. Its get tricky when the band wants more than us to experience their art.
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Well you went to this movie. Is it okay for you to support the movie and then unsuitable for pearl jam to be involved? Double standards methinks. I'm not ragging on you but I do think this is a pertinent point.
you mean Cold Case. And it's just Castle
they are not the same. just like you like pearl jam but not the other meaningless bands.....
but like someone pointed out, its very subjective. and you might love the meaningless other bands as much as you love pearl jam.
it was very interesting to know that not so many PJ fans do not care about it.
so, thank you everyone!
And FlashFoward.
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
fade away...
I am at peace with my lust.....for Eddie.
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And Chicago Cab
Also, I think Katherine Heigl is way hot...just throwing that out there.
You've seen the movie?
Eye of the beholder....
And if nothing else, movie theatres usually have bitchin sound systems so at least you get to hear PJ on a wicked stereo...
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to me (a film making hobbiest) film isn't art, it is a conglomerate of different art forms. People design sets, design costumes (both visual art forms), someone wrote the script (literature), people acted in the film and directed the film (theater arts) and people wrote the god damn music and lyrics (musical art) all of these combine to tell a story whether it's a horrible story or a brilliant one.
i see the screen as a museum. a museum where as you travel from room to room (scene to scene), a story is being told. film is a collaboration of art forms and if pearl jam wants to be involved in the collaboration, then let them. are they selling you a product? no. has their style changed at all to conform to a larger demographic? no. so therefore i see no "selling out".
collaborative art is a brilliant technique to create some crazy stuff, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but you can't hate on an artist for trying. after all, that's how art is created isn't it? trial and error.
art + art + art + art + art = art
I read the same article and it is a great article. Subcription music is the way to go now-a-days (Rhapsody is the best one). I do not see why people do not use subcription music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqzjDrrZIdE
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
into the wild is irrelevant because it was a soundtrack composed by eddie.
i don't see the problem if their songs are used in films (good or bad). i enjoy hearing pearl jam wherever it may be. the most pleasant surprise being californication!
they've been putting their music in film since the early 90's... so it's obviously nothing new. i understand that your beef is with the type of movie, which i can empathize with to a certain extent. but maybe one of the filmmakers, or actors/actresses, is friends with ed/stone/jeff/mike/matt and asked to use it as a personal favour. you never know!
ps
i just watched the trailer and that movie looks like it COULD be cute lol
It's def not the early 90s anymore and clearly the rules of the music industry have changed but its a delicate balance on how to earn a buck and maintain the image you want to project. Obviously the music speaks for itslef to hardcore fans like us. Its get tricky when the band wants more than us to experience their art.
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