"If I Hadn't Found Jesus..." From the Onion

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    matabele wrote:
    So let me get this straight, people think that this is all a big accident. Slugs crawl out of the ocean, develop into 5 human beings that belt out It's evolution baby with pieces of wood and some steel strings, some accident.
    ...
    No. Life is a process. A process that has occurred does occur and will occur in those places in the Universe where the conditions are right for life to exist.
    In our current state... on this planet, at this distance from a sun, that is in this period of its life, at this time... life exists. Earth wasn't alway hospitable for life to exist... and in the distant future, the Earth will no long be able to sustain life.
    And maybe a slug crawled from the waters of another planet, circling at the right distance around another star in another galaxy and evolved to higher life forms... that all went extinct 600 million years ago when its sun died. Maybe, the ingredients for life exists all over the Universe, but the conditions need to be correct in order for the process to take place.
    The only thing we really know is... We don't know. Whether we look in science books or Holy Texts... we don't know.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    matabele wrote:
    So let me get this straight, people think that this is all a big accident. Slugs crawl out of the ocean, develop into 5 human beings that belt out It's evolution baby with pieces of wood and some steel strings, some accident.
    I think people who are open to the big bang theory and of evolution (the latter which is a concept i think a lot of people misunderstand) are open to sweeping it under the rug if a new and better theory arises... which is the beauty of science!

    Meanwhile, some people will never stop believing a big giant man in the sky made the universe and put dinosaurs in the ground as a joke and gave the authority to a church to tell everyone the sun wasn't the center of the universe...... oh yes, much more believable i think. 8-)
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  • matabele
    matabele Posts: 277
    haffajappa wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    So let me get this straight, people think that this is all a big accident. Slugs crawl out of the ocean, develop into 5 human beings that belt out It's evolution baby with pieces of wood and some steel strings, some accident.
    I think people who are open to the big bang theory and of evolution (the latter which is a concept i think a lot of people misunderstand) are open to sweeping it under the rug if a new and better theory arises... which is the beauty of science!

    Meanwhile, some people will never stop believing a big giant man in the sky made the universe and put dinosaurs in the ground as a joke and gave the authority to a church to tell everyone the sun wasn't the center of the universe...... oh yes, much more believable i think. 8-)
    I think the only thing we can truthfully say is, we don't have a clue! I have this nagging feeling that we are looking at things from this angle when we should be looking at them from 180 degrees the other way.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    matabele wrote:
    I think the only thing we can truthfully say is, we don't have a clue!

    Exactly and the scientific method is the only way we have to explain the world and how it works with cold hard facts, no matter what religion people are in, science doesn't care it only care about facts.
    matabele wrote:
    I have this nagging feeling that we are looking at things from this angle when we should be looking at them from 180 degrees the other way.

    Ok then, how we should look then? could you tell me an unbiased method?
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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  • matabele
    matabele Posts: 277
    arq wrote:

    Ok then, how we should look then? could you tell me an unbiased method?

    I don't think we should be looking for the answer, we will never find it, it is kinda like asking a surgeon to remove the organ where hate, love, anxiety and conscience live.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    matabele wrote:
    arq wrote:

    Ok then, how we should look then? could you tell me an unbiased method?

    I don't think we should be looking for the answer, we will never find it, it is kinda like asking a surgeon to remove the organ where hate, love, anxiety and conscience live.

    Exactly! there's no answer :thumbup:
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    arq wrote:

    Ok then, how we should look then? could you tell me an unbiased method?

    I don't think we should be looking for the answer, we will never find it, it is kinda like asking a surgeon to remove the organ where hate, love, anxiety and conscience live.

    Exactly! there's no answer :thumbup:
    Why are people so discontent with the unknown?
    Nothing has been proven absolutely... I lean towards the scientific theory of course but there's always room for new and greater theories should they arise.

    None of us can say for sure!
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    haffajappa wrote:
    ...there's always room for new and greater theories should they arise...

    Isn't that exciting? :D
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    ...there's always room for new and greater theories should they arise...

    Isn't that exciting? :D
    Personally I think the world was created by giant lime green giraffes
    ...just waiting for that theory to be validated...
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    matabele wrote:
    arq wrote:

    Ok then, how we should look then? could you tell me an unbiased method?

    I don't think we should be looking for the answer, we will never find it, it is kinda like asking a surgeon to remove the organ where hate, love, anxiety and conscience live.

    The brain?
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    haffajappa wrote:
    Personally I think the world was created by giant lime green giraffes
    ...just waiting for that theory to be validated...

    People like you are causing the downfall of the modern society, it wasn't a giant lime green giraffe, it was a giant lime green LEMUR!!!
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    The brain?

    The brain is an awesome and powerful tool, but remember the brain can be fooled, the scientific method was created to avoid that, optical illusions, magic tricks, false believes getting in the way etc.
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • matabele
    matabele Posts: 277
    I'm not trying to be funny but when I feel love, sadness, apprehension and such things it feels like they come from an area near the heart, deep in the chest.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    Personally I think the world was created by giant lime green giraffes
    ...just waiting for that theory to be validated...

    People like you are causing the downfall of the modern society, it wasn't a giant lime green giraffe, it was a giant lime green LEMUR!!!
    Well I have the solution to this.
    I will immediately launch a crusade and tear down every belief you and your followers may have so that you conform!
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    haffajappa wrote:
    I will immediately launch a crusade and tear down every belief you and your followers may have so that you conform!
    You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.

    Richard Jeni

    :lol:
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    haffajappa wrote:
    I will immediately launch a crusade and tear down every belief you and your followers may have so that you conform!
    You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.

    Richard Jeni

    :lol:
    ahh best quote evar.
    and clearly i still have the best imaginary friend.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    haffajappa wrote:
    ahh best quote evar.
    and clearly i still have the best imaginary friend.

    Imaginary-Friend_2816-l.jpg
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    arq wrote:
    The brain?

    The brain is an awesome and powerful tool, but remember the brain can be fooled, the scientific method was created to avoid that, optical illusions, magic tricks, false believes getting in the way etc.

    I agree however I was referring to the other quote with the organ removal reference.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"