the loudness war

fox_mulderXfox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
edited August 2010 in The Porch
has pearl jam fallen victim to this?
to be honest, i can't hear THAT much of a difference between a cd from 1990 and 2009.... it does sound louder, but when people say that it sounds awful i can't say that i totally agree. maybe it's because i became HUGE into music over the last few years (after the war started) so i wasn't there for the transition.
i personally always thought pearl jams cds sounded pretty good production wise (with the exception of "self titled".. there's something off about that one).
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  • DaveyGDaveyG Posts: 225
    I don't have the Ten reissue, but there's certainly a bit of loudness war with Backspacer.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 6,006
    Brendan O'Brien invented the loudness war
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Yea there is a big difference. Luckily BoB's production with Backspacer was really good, and ALOT better than avocado.
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  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,369
    avo won the loudness war.
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • that it sounds awful i can't say that i totally agree

    Well that might depend on your sound system.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • has pearl jam fallen victim to this?
    to be honest, i can't hear THAT much of a difference between a cd from 1990 and 2009.... it does sound louder, but when people say that it sounds awful i can't say that i totally agree. maybe it's because i became HUGE into music over the last few years (after the war started) so i wasn't there for the transition.
    i personally always thought pearl jams cds sounded pretty good production wise (with the exception of "self titled".. there's something off about that one).

    Because "loudness war" discs CANNOT BE PLAYED LOUD without distorting and slashing at your ears. Non "loudness war" discs can be played at any volume and will always sound clear and dynamic (like "Yield" or "Binaural" for example). Your choices as an audio consumer are limited with "loudness war" discs because they've already made the disc loud for you. There is no option for audiophiles. It's the same reason there is a big vinyl boom right now. The truth is that vinyl sucks as a medium, but because of the loudness wars, people are turning to vinyl as an alternative and record companies are cashing in big, lisencing albums to audiophile vinyl labels. Audiophile gold discs too. If there wasn't an unwritten rule these days that discs must be loud and crappy sounding, there wouldn't be a need for any of that nonsense. It's all a big scam. And Pearl Jam is a part of it. The "Backspacer" vinyl is amongst the worst I've ever heard...it sounds almost exactly like the CD (slghtly worse in fact)...because it's a cash grab rather than a true audiophile product.
  • The truth is that vinyl sucks as a medium

    No, it does not.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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