Youngsters at concerts
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JJ200321 wrote:To the OP, really you just sound like you want to be as hedonistic as possible without feeling guilty about it... the rest of what you have said regarding kids beating a homeless man to death etc is rubbish... one thing has nothing to do with the other.
Exactly, my husband doesn't get on here, but I was telling him about a couple of these threads. He had the same opinion that you do in that people feel a bit guilty in acting like wild party animals in front of young children and this is the cause for their complaint. However, although I realize that it is fun to let your hair down from time to time, I also believe that if you feel convicted about something maybe you should rethink it and possibly abstain from it. Any person that brings their child to a show it going to be watching their own kid and ensuring their safety (no different and actually probably way more closely than they would in a shopping mall or something), so as long as you are in control of yourself than there should be nothing to worry about. It's not up to you to be in control of somebody else's kid, but it is up to you to be in control of yourself and if you are doing something that could harm somebody else (not just a kid), you probably shouldn't be doing it period. I know adults who have been hurt at concerts b/c of irresponsible and selfish concert goers. Basically, what I'm saying is, if we all act decent and remember that we are in a public venue with others around, there should be no cause for concern no matter the age of the attendee.Hearts and thoughts they fade....
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my eleven years old daughter was with me in Arras and it was all fun, we had a great time and I was so happy to share it with her. It was her first PJ show and she wants more ASAP.0
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Cradles Broken Glass wrote:JJ200321 wrote:To the OP, really you just sound like you want to be as hedonistic as possible without feeling guilty about it... the rest of what you have said regarding kids beating a homeless man to death etc is rubbish... one thing has nothing to do with the other.
Exactly, my husband doesn't get on here, but I was telling him about a couple of these threads. He had the same opinion that you do in that people feel a bit guilty in acting like wild party animals in front of young children and this is the cause for their complaint. However, although I realize that it is fun to let your hair down from time to time, I also believe that if you feel convicted about something maybe you should rethink it and possibly abstain from it. Any person that brings their child to a show it going to be watching their own kid and ensuring their safety (no different and actually probably way more closely than they would in a shopping mall or something), so as long as you are in control of yourself than there should be nothing to worry about. It's not up to you to be in control of somebody else's kid, but it is up to you to be in control of yourself and if you are doing something that could harm somebody else (not just a kid), you probably shouldn't be doing it period. I know adults who have been hurt at concerts b/c of irresponsible and selfish concert goers. Basically, what I'm saying is, if we all act decent and remember that we are in a public venue with others around, there should be no cause for concern no matter the age of the attendee.
As a parent you don't worry about what shouldn't happen, you worry about what could happen.0 -
DewieCox wrote:Cradles Broken Glass wrote:JJ200321 wrote:To the OP, really you just sound like you want to be as hedonistic as possible without feeling guilty about it... the rest of what you have said regarding kids beating a homeless man to death etc is rubbish... one thing has nothing to do with the other.
Exactly, my husband doesn't get on here, but I was telling him about a couple of these threads. He had the same opinion that you do in that people feel a bit guilty in acting like wild party animals in front of young children and this is the cause for their complaint. However, although I realize that it is fun to let your hair down from time to time, I also believe that if you feel convicted about something maybe you should rethink it and possibly abstain from it. Any person that brings their child to a show it going to be watching their own kid and ensuring their safety (no different and actually probably way more closely than they would in a shopping mall or something), so as long as you are in control of yourself than there should be nothing to worry about. It's not up to you to be in control of somebody else's kid, but it is up to you to be in control of yourself and if you are doing something that could harm somebody else (not just a kid), you probably shouldn't be doing it period. I know adults who have been hurt at concerts b/c of irresponsible and selfish concert goers. Basically, what I'm saying is, if we all act decent and remember that we are in a public venue with others around, there should be no cause for concern no matter the age of the attendee.
As a parent you don't worry about what shouldn't happen, you worry about what could happen.
Very true. However, as a person who grew up with a mother who was way too over-protective, I try to protect my child, but within reason (if that makes sense). I took him to a PJ show this past tour and we all had a blast, but I have to admit that there are certain shows and venues that I would not take him to.Hearts and thoughts they fade....
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The only thing I would find annoying about kids being at a PJ show (and by kids I think of like 14 and under) is that I would feel a little awkward about doing the things I normally do at a rock concert. Thankfully I have never been sitting that close to any youngsters so it hasn't ever been an issue. But like probably most people on this forum I enjoy getting a little buzzed and smoke a few joints during the show. I dont get falling down drunk or anything (dont understand those people, dont you want to be able to remember the show??) but there is nothing wrong with getting a little loose at a PJ show.
If a kid was sitting in my vicinity I would definitely try to be more discreet about the weed but I would still enjoy myself as I normaly would. The way I look at it is if a parent is bringing their kid to a rock concert they must be ok with their child witnessing some weed being smoked. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him/her. Is that assumption incorrect??
I wouldn't ever be worried over the safety of a kid at a PJ show though I think if something ever happened along those lines you would see dozens of jammers doing everything possible to help out.2000: Saratoga
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PorchRats wrote:The only thing I would find annoying about kids being at a PJ show (and by kids I think of like 14 and under) is that I would feel a little awkward about doing the things I normally do at a rock concert. Thankfully I have never been sitting that close to any youngsters so it hasn't ever been an issue. But like probably most people on this forum I enjoy getting a little buzzed and smoke a few joints during the show. I dont get falling down drunk or anything (dont understand those people, dont you want to be able to remember the show??) but there is nothing wrong with getting a little loose at a PJ show.
If a kid was sitting in my vicinity I would definitely try to be more discreet about the weed but I would still enjoy myself as I normaly would. The way I look at it is if a parent is bringing their kid to a rock concert they must be ok with their child witnessing some weed being smoked. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him/her. Is that assumption incorrect??
I wouldn't ever be worried over the safety of a kid at a PJ show though I think if something ever happened along those lines you would see dozens of jammers doing everything possible to help out.
Kids under the 14 age range most likely wouldn't recognize it as weed. I can understand a few drinks to get buzzed (although I don't get why you would feel the need to smoke weed at the concert when you could before or after, that's just my opinion). I don't get those people who get fall down drunk either, I would think paying as much as you pay, you would want to remember the show. Also, although they serve drinks at concerts, it's not a bar, so there's nothing wrong with kids being there. And yes, you are correct in your assumption that us parents know what's going to be happening when we take out kids. However, I do think if some discretion never hut anyone.
I can speak for myself, not just my child, when I say that I don't want to be around annoying drunks and it really pisses me off when they have better seats than me and spend most of the concert going to get drinks and to the bathroom. Hearts and thoughts they fade....
fade away...
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Cradles Broken Glass wrote:PorchRats wrote:The only thing I would find annoying about kids being at a PJ show (and by kids I think of like 14 and under) is that I would feel a little awkward about doing the things I normally do at a rock concert. Thankfully I have never been sitting that close to any youngsters so it hasn't ever been an issue. But like probably most people on this forum I enjoy getting a little buzzed and smoke a few joints during the show. I dont get falling down drunk or anything (dont understand those people, dont you want to be able to remember the show??) but there is nothing wrong with getting a little loose at a PJ show.
If a kid was sitting in my vicinity I would definitely try to be more discreet about the weed but I would still enjoy myself as I normaly would. The way I look at it is if a parent is bringing their kid to a rock concert they must be ok with their child witnessing some weed being smoked. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him/her. Is that assumption incorrect??
I wouldn't ever be worried over the safety of a kid at a PJ show though I think if something ever happened along those lines you would see dozens of jammers doing everything possible to help out.
Kids under the 14 age range most likely wouldn't recognize it as weed. I can understand a few drinks to get buzzed (although I don't get why you would feel the need to smoke weed at the concert when you could before or after, that's just my opinion). I don't get those people who get fall down drunk either, I would think paying as much as you pay, you would want to remember the show. Also, although they serve drinks at concerts, it's not a bar, so there's nothing wrong with kids being there. And yes, you are correct in your assumption that us parents know what's going to be happening when we take out kids. However, I do think if some discretion never hut anyone.
I can speak for myself, not just my child, when I say that I don't want to be around annoying drunks and it really pisses me off when they have better seats than me and spend most of the concert going to get drinks and to the bathroom.
I think you would be surprised about kids under 14 recognizing the smell of pot. I know I would have recognized it when I was 11 or so. As for why the need to smoke it during the show, well you know how long PJ plays for! By the 1st encore its time to burn another. Seriously its just the way I've always enjoyed live music. Really I have no problem with kids going to a show as long as the parents are responsible and are ok with it.2000: Saratoga
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PorchRats wrote:Cradles Broken Glass wrote:PorchRats wrote:The only thing I would find annoying about kids being at a PJ show (and by kids I think of like 14 and under) is that I would feel a little awkward about doing the things I normally do at a rock concert. Thankfully I have never been sitting that close to any youngsters so it hasn't ever been an issue. But like probably most people on this forum I enjoy getting a little buzzed and smoke a few joints during the show. I dont get falling down drunk or anything (dont understand those people, dont you want to be able to remember the show??) but there is nothing wrong with getting a little loose at a PJ show.
If a kid was sitting in my vicinity I would definitely try to be more discreet about the weed but I would still enjoy myself as I normaly would. The way I look at it is if a parent is bringing their kid to a rock concert they must be ok with their child witnessing some weed being smoked. Otherwise they wouldn't have brought him/her. Is that assumption incorrect??
I wouldn't ever be worried over the safety of a kid at a PJ show though I think if something ever happened along those lines you would see dozens of jammers doing everything possible to help out.
Kids under the 14 age range most likely wouldn't recognize it as weed. I can understand a few drinks to get buzzed (although I don't get why you would feel the need to smoke weed at the concert when you could before or after, that's just my opinion). I don't get those people who get fall down drunk either, I would think paying as much as you pay, you would want to remember the show. Also, although they serve drinks at concerts, it's not a bar, so there's nothing wrong with kids being there. And yes, you are correct in your assumption that us parents know what's going to be happening when we take out kids. However, I do think if some discretion never hut anyone.
I can speak for myself, not just my child, when I say that I don't want to be around annoying drunks and it really pisses me off when they have better seats than me and spend most of the concert going to get drinks and to the bathroom.
I think you would be surprised about kids under 14 recognizing the smell of pot. I know I would have recognized it when I was 11 or so. As for why the need to smoke it during the show, well you know how long PJ plays for! By the 1st encore its time to burn another. Seriously its just the way I've always enjoyed live music. Really I have no problem with kids going to a show as long as the parents are responsible and are ok with it.
Agreed.Bristow, VA (5/13/10)0 -
I think kids 12+ know what to expect nowadays. They've seen drugs and booze in games and on TV, so seeing it in person shouldn't be that big of a deal. I know it wasn't for me. Sure, I wouldn't take a kid to certain concerts, but I think PJ would be a safe bet. That and no matter what happened, it'd still be worth it. I just know what it's like to not be able to go to concerts. I had to wait until I was 16 for my concert, a 311 show only an hour away from where I live. I knew what to expect (People who know 311 know what I'm talking about) and nothing went wrong. Since then (I'm 18 going on 19), I've been to 5 other shows, most recently, my first PJ in KC on 5/3. I hated that I had to wait until then but I'm hoping with the 20th anniversary next year, I'll get the opportunity to do some more road trippin' to PJ shows.0
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ChasePro wrote:I think kids 12+ know what to expect nowadays. They've seen drugs and booze in games and on TV, so seeing it in person shouldn't be that big of a deal. I know it wasn't for me. Sure, I wouldn't take a kid to certain concerts, but I think PJ would be a safe bet. That and no matter what happened, it'd still be worth it. I just know what it's like to not be able to go to concerts. I had to wait until I was 16 for my concert, a 311 show only an hour away from where I live. I knew what to expect (People who know 311 know what I'm talking about) and nothing went wrong. Since then (I'm 18 going on 19), I've been to 5 other shows, most recently, my first PJ in KC on 5/3. I hated that I had to wait until then but I'm hoping with the 20th anniversary next year, I'll get the opportunity to do some more road trippin' to PJ shows.
I agree, it sucks to miss out on it b/c your parents won't let you. Also, as a parent, it's hard to tell your kid no and make them stay at home when you're going. You feel like not all of you is there. I know b/c I told my son no when he begged to go see Ed solo and I've regretted it since. So, when the 2010 tour was announced, I bought three tickets. We had a blast.Hearts and thoughts they fade....
fade away...
I am at peace with my lust.....for Eddie.0
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