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Arthur Harold KaneArthur Harold Kane Posts: 13
edited July 2010 in Given To Fly (live)
pearl jam have now been around for 20 years. yet if you listen to a recording from, say, 1992 vs one from 2010, songs like "alive" and "even flow" don't sound very different. ok, maybe longer solos, different solos, but the song is basically the same. it's the same throughout their career. they've reworked a couple songs--in my tree, i am a patriot (if you can even count that), and songs lengthen/shorten (specifically i'm thinking of rvm and porch), there are tags, but why not a bit more variation?

i say this because i picked up The Velvet Underground: Velvet Redux (Live MCMXCIII) dvd, one of the shows from their reunion tour in the early 90s, expecting to be underwhelmed. i loved it not because they were still at the top of their games (clearly not, though there were some great moments) but every song on there was done differently than the version i know well. while i wouldn't expect pj to change every single old song (and should probably give the newer songs at least a few good years to set in), how about a little bit?

it would help the diehard fans who have to endure even flow at every single show, but also the band from getting so tired of playing the same thing every night. it's like something pj basically already does: changes the setlist from night to night. when you hear a band that does that, you wonder why more bands don't.
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  • landingonwaterlandingonwater Posts: 325
    It's ridiculous when fans say they have to "endure" Even Flow. Go take a piss or buy a beer if you don't want to hear it. God, this band has created some huge snobs. Let the band do what they want. We're not their life coaches.
  • ParadajzarParadajzar Posts: 435
    Why now you dont bitchin?:)
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  • rafierafie Posts: 2,160
    Paradajzar wrote:
    Why now you dont bitchin?:)
    +1
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Arthur Harold Kane wrote:
    it would help the diehard fans who have to endure even flow at every single show,.

    I'll 'endure' evenflow' anytime! :mrgreen:
  • ParadajzarParadajzar Posts: 435
    There are no piss breaks at PJ concerts.....even if they play 35 even flows in a row.....sis is it!!!

    Iif I wanna pee, I stay at home!!!

    redrock wrote:
    Arthur Harold Kane wrote:
    it would help the diehard fans who have to endure even flow at every single show,.

    I'll 'endure' evenflow' anytime! :mrgreen:
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    Prague 02.07.2012
    Berlin 04.07.2012
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    Manchester 28.07.2012 - E.V.
    Worcester 15.10.2013
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    Trieste 22.6.2014
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  • Arthur Harold KaneArthur Harold Kane Posts: 13
    am their life coach, yes.
  • Father HubbardFather Hubbard Chicago Posts: 1,629
    Ive thought about making a list of "reworked" songs for a while. off the top of my head (in addition to in my tree and porch):

    Jeremy (slow version)
    Wash (speed version)
    Garden (06 version)
    Why go (03 version)
    I Believe in Miracles (acoustic)
    Corduroy (Bridge 96 and Eddie 3-piece 96 version)
    Lukin II
    WMA (08 version)
    Im open live (if you consider this a "version")

    What am I missing?
  • wolfamongwolveswolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Father Hubbard wrote:

    What am I missing?

    I am a Patriot     - Ed's brilliant punked-up version with C-Average in 1999, and the godawful 2003 PJ version

    Better Man - completely overhauled and reupholstered by Ed in Chicago 2008
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Paradajzar wrote:
    Why now you dont bitchin?:)
    redrock wrote:
    Arthur Harold Kane wrote:
    it would help the diehard fans who have to endure even flow at every single show,.

    I'll 'endure' evenflow' anytime! :mrgreen:
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  • Father HubbardFather Hubbard Chicago Posts: 1,629
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Father Hubbard wrote:

    What am I missing?

    I am a Patriot     - Ed's brilliant punked-up version with C-Average in 1999, and the godawful 2003 PJ version

    Better Man - completely overhauled and reupholstered by Ed in Chicago 2008

    ah yes-also forgot the 06 betterman that was done a couple times with the key intro (i think storytellers and bridge off the top of my head)
  • wolfamongwolveswolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Father Hubbard wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    Father Hubbard wrote:

    What am I missing?

    I am a Patriot     - Ed's brilliant punked-up version with C-Average in 1999, and the godawful 2003 PJ version

    Better Man - completely overhauled and reupholstered by Ed in Chicago 2008

    ah yes-also forgot the 06 betterman that was done a couple times with the key intro (i think storytellers and bridge off the top of my head)

    Which reminds me of the slow, Ed-&-Boom version of The Kids are Alright, from the Northwest School fundraiser in '05. It wasn't very good, I'm afraid.
    93: Slane
    96: Cork, Dublin
    00: Dublin
    06: London, Dublin
    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
    10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
    11: San José
    12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
  • Arthur Harold KaneArthur Harold Kane Posts: 13
    it sounds like they've reworked a lot more than i was aware of at the time. this betterman '08 sounds like something i need to check out. my favourite alternate version is the immortality from Boston 1994 someone on this board posted years ago asking for help deciphering the lyrics. well, i can't understand them either, but i like it because of its mystique. music is the same, though.
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