About this european tour, your opinion

ajb · July 2010

Sappy113 wrote:

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

I agree that this tour has been a let down. The stock setlists for the festivals I cannot understand at all. They don't need to play allll their hits every night. If they feel brave enough to play a new song at theseshows, why not a few deeper cuts? They know they've built their fanbase on their diverse setlists. They know they raise expectations by playing those crazy US shows. They know the people who are their best customers go to multiple shows. It's just crappy to me.

In addition, they had 3 of their own gigs this tour. The first 2 were back to back and were at the very start. I was not very impressed by the Dublin gig and the band seemed quiet jet lagged, especially Jeff, who was totally lacking his usual energy. Belfast was loads better by comparison, but still had a load of repeats from Dublin... why? I won't even comment on London other than to say I was more entertained by The Hives.

The fact is that Pearl Jam sells a lot of tickets on the expectation of diverse sets, surprises and long shows. To me they have not met their own set standard this tour.

I do wish they would've done more of their own shows this tour. But I can't really fault them for toning down the festival setlists. They have a shorter timeframe to play and most likely there'll be quite a few folks at the show who don't have the same passion for Pearl Jam as we do in here. It'd be counterproductive for the band the lose those folks on experimental setlists. We would love it, obviously, but it's not certain the larger festival audience would respond to it very well. I THINK that's the thinking behind those setlists we've seen so far, because I do agree that if this were done in their own headlining shows for a longer stretch of time, it'd be a bit of a disappointment. But I don't see that at all.

I do love the diverse set-lists though, but still I'd have to say the biggest selling point for me is the raw emotion, passion and energy that's shared between the band and us fans at the shows. The Connection. I love that. And as far as I've seen, they've maintained that this EU tour, even with the shorter sets.

I am agree with both of you in many points, and I think that most of us here we feel the same, that maybe we miss more "only" pearl jam shows.

another bad point of this tour for me, is that they can not never do an Immagine in Cornice again with those last concerts, because for me immagine in cornice represents the communion between fans and group, but if in the tour the 80% of the concerts is 1 and 1/2 hour festival concert, it will never appear the same feeling on the crowd.

the people who goes to a festival is generally much worst public. I am talking about free violence, non sense of responsability at all, and huge drunks every where. Here we all have experience attending festivals and you all understand what I am talking about. And many of us we were those drunk and conflictive people... :roll:

redrock · July 2010

ajb wrote:

another bad point of this tour for me, is that they can not never do an Immagine in Cornice again with those last concerts, :

But why dwell on past gigs? There may have been one super-magical one that took you to some fantastic place but you can't benchmark all the future ones with 'the' gig. It's a recipe for disappointment every time. Each gig, each venue (arena, outdoor or festival) has its pros and cons. Appreciate them for what they are. I'm thinking here a lot of people have VERY high expectations (which is natural) and anything less perfect is disappointing. Arena or festival - different experiences - embrace them!

Eraserhead · July 2010

Looks like they listened to our complaining for Venice...

rebornFixer · July 2010

Eraserhead wrote:

Looks like they listened to our complaining for Venice...

The tour is winding down and someone finally started to get bored. Seriously ... They mix things up really, really well, for the most part. Not sure why this chunk is an exception.

dimitrispearljam · July 2010

i saw pj 10 shows on this tour..was my first festivals....and i dont fuckin care...the boys was on stage and rock it!!!no matter what 1 hour or 5 ...i enjoy every minute!!!!i prefer pj shows but festival works too,i prefer to see them every year in our contintent.
pj tour isnt only the shows!!!is the whole..the friends,the travel,the tickets trade,the sharing floors,hotel rooms,to make partys,meetings.big groups go out ,having fan..this year was so fan watching football from world cup matches big groups of pj fan from all over the world and after we all go to the shows together....the ones want to wait for 5-6 years ,then u have to watch the relays thread im going to do me and the friend here

Paradajzar · July 2010

Ah Dimi.....greek mafia.....As always.....you are right.......As long as they come back

I didnt go to festivals either this year...but I dont care..they can play whatever, as long as they are here.....and people can pick festivals or their own shows.....I choose their own shows and Dublin, Belfast & Berlin were all perfeto!!!!!

DIMI FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!:))

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i saw pj 10 shows on this tour..was my first festivals....and i dont fuckin care...the boys was on stage and rock it!!!no matter what 1 hour or 5 ...i enjoy every minute!!!!i prefer pj shows but festival works too,i prefer to see them every year in our contintent.
pj tour isnt only the shows!!!is the whole..the friends,the travel,the tickets trade,the sharing floors,hotel rooms,to make partys,meetings.big groups go out ,having fan..this year was so fan watching football from world cup matches big groups of pj fan from all over the world and after we all go to the shows together....the ones want to wait for 5-6 years ,then u have to watch the relays thread im going to do me and the friend here

InsideJob75 · July 2010

Paradajzar wrote:

DIMI FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!:))

!!! Then he won't have time to post on here every 4 seconds!

Paradajzar · July 2010

At least he will tell them to tour every year, as he will be president of Pearl Jam:)))

InsideJob75 wrote:

Paradajzar wrote:

DIMI FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!:))

!!! Then he won't have time to post on here every 4 seconds!

dimitrispearljam · July 2010

InsideJob75 wrote:

Paradajzar wrote:

DIMI FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!:))

!!! Then he won't have time to post on here every 4 seconds!

2.2 second is my record

jrd · July 2010

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

In addition, they had 3 of their own gigs this tour. The first 2 were back to back and were at the very start. I was not very impressed by the Dublin gig and the band seemed quiet jet lagged, especially Jeff, who was totally lacking his usual energy. Belfast was loads better by comparison, but still had a load of repeats from Dublin... why? I won't even comment on London other than to say I was more entertained by The Hives.

i could agree that as a pair of shows Dublin and Belfast weren't up there with Manchester and London (O2) from 2009 but i make it they played 26 songs one night and 27 the next and a total of 42 different ones altogether, so only 11 the same each night. that's pretty good going as far as i'm concerned so i'm not moaning! Belfast was a great setlist IMHO and i'd probably rank those 4 shows as (1) London (2) Belfast (3) Manchester and (4) Dublin.

of the 11 repeats from Dublin and Belfast i think that you could have expected at least 10 of them given the 2010 setlists from the US... :geek:

festivals? i'll go if i have to but would prefer more PJ-only shows. who wouldn't ?

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