High Court Extends Gun Owner Rights Nationwide

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,077
    5-4 majority....with the usual 5 voting in the majority...no surprise here...let's just give everyone a gun and call it a day... :(
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  • he still stands
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    I can't say I disagree with the ruling; the Bill of Rights should indeed apply to every state :?
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  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,828
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    5-4 majority....with the usual 5 voting in the majority...no surprise here...let's just give everyone a gun and call it a day... :(
    Whoa whoa whoa... GIVE everyone a gun? That'd be socialism ;)
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,077
    he still stands wrote:
    I can't say I disagree with the ruling; the Bill of Rights should indeed apply to every state :?
    it should apply to every state, but if cities like Chicago and D.C. that have such problems with violence want to ban them then they should be allowed to have a ban. have the people in those cities vote on a ban.
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  • unsung
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    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    I can't say I disagree with the ruling; the Bill of Rights should indeed apply to every state :?
    it should apply to every state, but if cities like Chicago and D.C. that have such problems with violence want to ban them then they should be allowed to have a ban. have the people in those cities vote on a ban.


    Cities like Chicago and DC were the highest in the nation for murders when there was a ban in place. When DC removed the ban their murders went down by a huge percentage. Bans don't work. Education does.

    Proof that Sonia Sotomayor is not qualified for the Court:

    SOTOMAYOR: “I can find nothing in the Second Amendment’s text, history, or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as ‘fundamental’ insofar as it seeks to protect the keeping and bearing of arms for private self-defense purposes.”

    Clueless.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,436
    I understand the logic they had in banning guns in Chicago and DC, but it only really impacted law-abiding citizens . . . and Gilbert Areans. And the bans did nothing to stop the flow of arms into those areas to criminal elements and NBA Players. Anyway, Chicago should be more concerned with nearby states with little-to-know gun laws like Indiana. That is where the flow of weapons are coming from.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    KO282453 wrote:
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.

    really ????

    Godfather.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,888
    he still stands wrote:
    I can't say I disagree with the ruling; the Bill of Rights should indeed apply to every state :?

    Yeah... I don't mind cities creating laws like this, but it's hard to disagree with the ruling.

    I do find it funny however, when they don't agree with federal laws on issues, they scream "STATES' RIGHTS!", but with issues like this, States/City rights shouldn't exist.
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  • unsung
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    KO282453 wrote:
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.



    Does Australia have the gang problems that American large cities have?
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,888
    unsung wrote:
    Proof that Sonia Sotomayor is not qualified for the Court:

    SOTOMAYOR: “I can find nothing in the Second Amendment’s text, history, or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as ‘fundamental’ insofar as it seeks to protect the keeping and bearing of arms for private self-defense purposes.”

    While I don't agree with her on that statement (not sure what the context was), to say that she isn't "qualified" for the Court is a ridiculously ignorant statement.
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  • eyedclaar
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    unsung wrote:
    KO282453 wrote:
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.



    Does Australia have the gang problems that American large cities have?

    Roos vs wombats is about as hard-core as gang violence gets. Remember, everything is poisonous in Australia, even bullets.
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  • unsung
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    eyedclaar wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    KO282453 wrote:
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.



    Does Australia have the gang problems that American large cities have?

    Roos vs wombats is about as hard-core as gang violence gets. Remember, everything is poisonous in Australia, even bullets.


    Probably a little different than the Vice Lords vs. MS13?
  • unsung
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Proof that Sonia Sotomayor is not qualified for the Court:

    SOTOMAYOR: “I can find nothing in the Second Amendment’s text, history, or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as ‘fundamental’ insofar as it seeks to protect the keeping and bearing of arms for private self-defense purposes.”

    While I don't agree with her on that statement (not sure what the context was), to say that she isn't "qualified" for the Court is a ridiculously ignorant statement.


    Her inability to define something this simple says it all.
  • markin ball
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    I thought Obama was gonna take all our guns away. At least that's what I see on bumper stickers all the time. Remember the run at gun stores right after the election, too?
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  • unsung
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    markin ball wrote:
    I thought Obama was gonna take all our guns away. At least that's what I see on bumper stickers all the time. Remember the run at gun stores right after the election, too?


    That is part of it. He can do things like raise taxes to the point where things are so expensive that people won't be able to afford them. He was looking at registering each round of ammo, effectively ending the hobby of reloading. He was also looking at creating a HUGE tax on ammo. Some of his supporters are trying to pass laws that make you hold a minimum of $1M liability insurance if you own firearms, even though no insurance company currently has that policy available. Funny that minimum auto insurance in my state is $40k.

    So there are plenty of backdoor policies he can still try to push through.
  • TriumphantAngel
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    Godfather. wrote:
    KO282453 wrote:
    They outlawed guns in Australia a couple of years ago, there virtually no murder rate there anymore.

    really ????

    Godfather.
    things changed in 1996. the 1996 reforms were precipitated by the Port Arthur massacre. 35 people were killed and 21 others were injured. it was the 13th mass shooting in 15 years in which five or more victims died.

    the main reforms were the the ban on semi-automatic rifles and pump action shotguns, accompanied by gun amnesties and two national buybacks. around 820,000 guns were destroyed. it was recognized that semi-automatics are the guns of choice for those intent on killing many people quickly. John Howard (who was the then PM of Australia), introduced the reforms to prevent US-style mass killings.

    In the 14 years since the law reforms, there have been no mass shootings.
  • blackredyellow
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    unsung wrote:
    markin ball wrote:
    I thought Obama was gonna take all our guns away. At least that's what I see on bumper stickers all the time. Remember the run at gun stores right after the election, too?


    That is part of it. He can do things like raise taxes to the point where things are so expensive that people won't be able to afford them. He was looking at registering each round of ammo, effectively ending the hobby of reloading. He was also looking at creating a HUGE tax on ammo. Some of his supporters are trying to pass laws that make you hold a minimum of $1M liability insurance if you own firearms, even though no insurance company currently has that policy available. Funny that minimum auto insurance in my state is $40k.

    So there are plenty of backdoor policies he can still try to push through.

    That is fear mongering at it's best... No wonder there was a run on guns since he was elected. Until any of these laws are seriously brought forward from the administration or democratic leadership as bills, it's just fear mongering bullshit.

    "He's looking at..." where is the proof of any of that?
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  • BinauralJam
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    things changed in 1996. the 1996 reforms were precipitated by the Port Arthur massacre. 35 people were killed and 21 others were injured. it was the 13th mass shooting in 15 years in which five or more victims died.

    the main reforms were the the ban on semi-automatic rifles and pump action shotguns, accompanied by gun amnesties and two national buybacks. around 820,000 guns were destroyed. it was recognized that semi-automatics are the guns of choice for those intent on killing many people quickly. John Howard (who was the then PM of Australia), introduced the reforms to prevent US-style mass killings.

    In the 14 years since the law reforms, there have been no mass shootings.[/quote]


    Oh, i took it that like other than rifle's all guns were confisacted or turn over. but this was something i read a long time ago. i do remember that the year after it happened there was like only 4 gun related deaths in Australia , which is like the what will happen in the next 12 hours here in the u.s.a.
  • kenny olav
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    he still stands wrote:
    I can't say I disagree with the ruling; the Bill of Rights should indeed apply to every state :?

    The Bill of Rights should have a hole shot through it, right where the 2nd Amendment is.

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