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manhattanmanhattan Posts: 258
edited March 2008 in The Porch
Right now there are over 150 tickets on Ticketfast for Ed's show in Santa Barbara. That's just ONE scalper at ONE venue. How the hell did they manage to get so many?? At least none of them seem to be 10c tickets -- there's nothing closer than row AA. ( And those are $1879 each!!) Can't anything be done about this?
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    augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    manhattan wrote:
    Right now there are over 150 tickets on Ticketfast for Ed's show in Santa Barbara. That's just ONE scalper at ONE venue. How the hell did they manage to get so many?? At least none of them seem to be 10c tickets -- there's nothing closer than row AA. ( And those are $1879 each!!) Can't anything be done about this?

    ev shud have done what petty did for his 4 shows at the vic in chicago

    will call pick up day of the show ONLY. max 2 tickets each ONLY. you pick up your tickets, get your wrist band and go right in=no transfers from buyer to end user allowed

    but um tom petty is slightly a larger draw than ev, so um...

    but um ev could have easily reduced the min per purchase to 2 tickets only
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    Ashy LarryAshy Larry Posts: 76
    manhattan wrote:
    Right now there are over 150 tickets on Ticketfast for Ed's show in Santa Barbara. That's just ONE scalper at ONE venue. How the hell did they manage to get so many?? At least none of them seem to be 10c tickets -- there's nothing closer than row AA. ( And those are $1879 each!!) Can't anything be done about this?


    scalper sites have 1 database that they all place their inventory of tix in and multiple brokers/websites use the service. Thats not one shop with all those tix, its a nationwide thing.
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    EV has absolutely no control over ticket sales via ticketmaster or others. He can't tell them to limit them, etc. Ticketmaster does have a limit of number of tickets one can purchase, but these guys find a way around all these things.

    Only tickets that are 'controlled' are the 10C ones.
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    kurtdiedforyoursinskurtdiedforyoursins Posts: 149
    manhattan wrote:
    At least none of them seem to be 10c tickets -- there's nothing closer than row AA.

    "Tickets will be distributed at will call on the evening of the performance.
    Only the Ten Club member who purchased the tickets will be allowed to
    collect the tickets. No exceptions.

    Tickets are non-refundable. No exchanges or transfers will be allowed.
    Reselling of Ten Club tickets will result in revocation of all future Ten
    Club ticket benefits."

    therefore, no scalped 10c tickets.

    ticketbastard needs to update their protections. new scalper-bot programs can read those letter-number scrambles, and i suspect that's where the bulk of the tickets are going.
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    onemorshowonemorshow Posts: 383
    that's why most of us joined.so we wouldn't have to deal with ticketmaster.then we wouldn't have all these scalpers because everyone from the club would get to buy all the tickets first.if any are left over then ticketmaster would get those and can scalp them anyway they want.and we didnt even get a shot at the extra ev shows added.thats why there is so many ticket scalpers.
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    j.roj.ro Posts: 111
    My friend and I did pretty well on ebay...I guess it depends on what you consider doing well. It's for the Berkeley show. We figured since we were flying across the country anyway we might as well get both nights. Ended up spending about $115 each for orchestra seats...maybe 25 or so rows back. We're staying with a friend in SF so we don't have to worry about hotel expenses. Funny thing was that the guy selling the tickets saw the New York City address and wanted to confirm it was correct.

    The scalping thing sucks but I guess there is no way to avoid it. It's just becomes one of those "how much are you willing to pay" games. Maybe one of us from ten club can get that computer software that the scalpers use and distribute at face value! Wouldn't that be nice... :)
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    No_CoDeyeahNo_CoDeyeah Posts: 162
    I thank the scalpers because now I can buy a ticket to see Eddie
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    mjbmjb Posts: 1,314
    for Santa Barbara a few of us who already had 10c tickets grabbed TM ones too and sold them at face on this board...it is a good way to keep at least a few sets off stubhub and help eachother out. I hope it works out for everyone that did it and is something we all do going forward
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    PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    mjb wrote:
    for Santa Barbara a few of us who already had 10c tickets grabbed TM ones too and sold them at face on this board...it is a good way to keep at least a few sets off stubhub and help eachother out. I hope it works out for everyone that did it and is something we all do going forward
    that's what we started to do here for gigs we know others will be interested in.
    Grab at least a pair, more if you can, and offer the spares to other jammers/real fans for what you paid.
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    No_CoDeyeahNo_CoDeyeah Posts: 162
    mjb wrote:
    for Santa Barbara a few of us who already had 10c tickets grabbed TM ones too and sold them at face on this board...it is a good way to keep at least a few sets off stubhub and help eachother out. I hope it works out for everyone that did it and is something we all do going forward

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    augustwestaugustwest Posts: 739
    redrock wrote:
    EV has absolutely no control over ticket sales via ticketmaster or others. He can't tell them to limit them, etc. Ticketmaster does have a limit of number of tickets one can purchase, but these guys find a way around all these things.

    Only tickets that are 'controlled' are the 10C ones.

    ev and especially the promoter absolutely have a say in the max number a person can buy per transaction via ticketmaster.
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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    onemorshow wrote:
    that's why most of us joined.so we wouldn't have to deal with ticketmaster.then we wouldn't have all these scalpers because everyone from the club would get to buy all the tickets first.if any are left over then ticketmaster would get those and can scalp them anyway they want.and we didnt even get a shot at the extra ev shows added.thats why there is so many ticket scalpers.
    agreed or at least 75-90% of the tickets; yet, for the bigger PJ shows they wouldn't sell all the tickets. For the small venue shows, absolutely.
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    IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,637
    nathanastin wrote:
    agreed or at least 75-90% of the tickets; yet, for the bigger PJ shows they wouldn't sell all the tickets. For the small venue shows, absolutely.

    Ten club gets about 10% of tickets per venue - generally.

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    mjbmjb Posts: 1,314
    Didn't Bruce do all will call on tour at some point? I remember the lines being huge in Toronto - I think this is problematic for large venues, but for small theatres, I like that idea...either same day will call or the Vic wristband idea - it is a bitch for venue staff, but I don't see any other real argument against it. Much harder for scalpers to convince people to buy seats (i.e. hand over their money) and then meet them at a show.
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    CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,219
    There ARE methods to control the amount of scalped tickets... the sacalpers... and their customers who fuel the price gouging.
    ...
    2 tickets per purchase.
    All tickets are Will Call.
    Buyer MUST appear with a valid picture ID and the credit card used for the purchase.
    Upon arrival... you MUST be with your PlusOne guest.
    After recieving your tickets, you are given a wristband and ushered into the theater.
    No Ins and Outs.
    ...
    This way... the scalper will only get one ticket per pair and will have to eat the other one. If he has multiple pairs, he will have to get in line multiple times and can only escort one customer at a time. He will be forced to eat one ticket for every one he sells. He will also have to discard his wristbands everytime. anyone stupid enough to buy a worthless wristband deserves to get ripped off.
    And remmeber... as long as there are buyers willing to pay over the face value... there will be scalpers.
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