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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    why they didnt chance the name to Goldman Sucks for know what is all about..

    'Goldman Sucks'. Yeah, I can dig it. I wonder why they didn't think of that? :lol:
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    they had something about the federal reserve on a public access channel tonight, it said in '93 a senator tried to pass an audit of the federal reserve but greenspan and clinton were against it. it had a good clip of an interview with ron paul from back then, too

    sad how so little has changed
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • SolarWorld
    SolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    they had something about the federal reserve on a public access channel tonight, it said in '93 a senator tried to pass an audit of the federal reserve but greenspan and clinton were against it. it had a good clip of an interview with ron paul from back then, too

    sad how so little has changed

    Shit is about to change real soon...................
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012 ... y-bankrupt

    Goldman Sachs director quits 'morally bankrupt' Wall Street bank

    Greg Smith resigns as executive director of Goldman's European equity derivatives business after devastating attack


    Juliette Garside and Jill Treanor
    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 14 March 2012



    Wall Street bank Goldman Sachs has suffered a severe blow to its reputation after one of its bankers announced his resignation in the New York Times by declaring his employer "morally bankrupt".

    Questions were immediately raised about the relationship between the firm and its clients – whom the departing employee, Greg Smith, said were described as "muppets" by his superiors.

    Smith, who was based in London, made a savage attack on the culture of Goldman, which only two years ago was damaged by another London-based banker, Fabrice Tourre, who described creating "Frankenstein" products that showed scant regard for the needs of the firm's clients.

    Smith's public resignation letter made reference to the Tourre affair, as well as to the infamous description of Goldman in Rolling Stone magazine as "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity".

    Smith said that none of these incidents had taught the firm any humility or integrity. He wrote: "It makes me ill how callously people [at the bank] talk about ripping their clients off. Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as 'muppets', sometimes over internal email."

    Smith reckoned the fast track to a promotion involved persuading clients to invest in stocks or other products "that we are trying to get rid of because they are not seen as having a lot of potential profit". "Today, if you make enough money for the firm (and are not currently an ax [sic] murderer) you will be promoted into a position of influence," he wrote.

    Smith described himself as an executive director and head of the firm's US equity derivatives business in Europe, the Middle East and Africa. He is thought to have been the only person in that department and was a vice-president, which some City sources suggested might be a disappointment after 12 years with the firm.

    Goldman wanted to get clients to trade "whatever will bring the biggest profit to Goldman" – a strategy referred to as "hunting elephants".

    "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the junior analyst sitting quietly in the corner of the room hearing about 'muppets', 'ripping eyeballs out' and 'getting paid' doesn't exactly turn into a model citizen," wrote Smith, who said he had been selected to appear in a recruitment video and in 2006 had managed the summer intern programme in New York for sales and trading.

    Goldman Sachs was quick to deny the accusations levelled by Smith, but may face an uphill battle in clearing its name with clients, which range from governments to major international companies and big players on the financial markets.

    It was reported that publishers were trying to track down Smith to offer him a book deal.

    Lord Oakeshott, the Liberal Democrat peer and his party's former Treasury spokesman in the Lords, said he would table questions to seek clarity on any relationship between the UK government and Goldman.

    He said: "We know in the City that Goldman help themselves before their clients. Now here's the proof. Greg Smith says you get promoted there if you make enough money for the firm and you are not an axe murderer - and the people of Greece and the rest of the eurozone are paying the price after Goldmans cooked their books and Greece joined the euro at an unsustainably high exchange rate. Until this culture is stamped out, Goldman are not fit and proper to receive a penny of British taxpayers' money or advise our government in any way."

    Goldman advised Labour on the nationalisation of Northern Rock and acts as an official market marker of UK government bonds, known as gilts. Goldman alumni can be found in US political circles: the US Treasury secretary at the time of the banking crisis was Hank Paulson, who quit as boss of Goldman to take up the role in the Bush administration.

    Smith reckoned much had changed since Paulson quit, and the current bosses, chief executive Lloyd Blankfein and president Gary Cohn, were appointed. The pair had "lost hold of the firm's culture on their watch", during which time Blankfein once blurted that he was doing "God's work".

    Smith yearned for the previous culture – "the secret sauce that made this place great" – which had been about "teamwork, integrity, a spirit of humility, and always doing right by our clients".

    Blankfein and Cohn issued a joint statement from New York, where a new head of public relations, Jake Siewert, a White House press secretary during the Clinton administration, was installed only three days ago.

    "In a company of our size, it is not shocking that some people could feel disgruntled. But that does not and should not represent our firm of more than 30,000 people," said the statementby the pair, who were told by Smith that he said he wanted his public resignation to be "wake up call".

    Smith's own career prospects might now be in doubt despite him boasting of his full scholarship from South Africa to Stanford University, selection as a Rhodes Scholar national finalist, and bronze medal for table tennis at the Maccabiah Games in Israel.

    David Way, a headhunter at Marks Sattin, reckoned these anecdotes read like a CV. But, Way noted: "like most of the City's major employers, Goldman Sachs have a strong network of alumni running companies across the world who could be bosses or clients for high-level professionals changing jobs."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    That's one of the reasons I very much enjoy reading James Howard Kunstler's blog. He often hammers away on Goldman Sachs. Wham!!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    "...a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity".

    Nice.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Goldman Roiled by Op-Ed Loses $2.2 Billion for Shareholders

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/goldman-r ... 57964.html

    Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) saw $2.15 billion of its market value wiped out after an employee assailed Chief Executive Officer Lloyd C. Blankfein's management and the firm's treatment of clients, sparking debate across Wall Street.

    The shares dropped 3.4 percent in New York trading yesterday, the third-biggest decline in the 81-company Standard & Poor's 500 Financials Index, after London-based Greg Smith made the accusations in a New York Times op-ed piece.

    Smith, who also wrote that he was quitting after 12 years at the company, blamed Blankfein, 57, and President Gary D. Cohn, 51, for a "decline in the firm's moral fiber." They responded in a memo to current and former employees, saying that Smith's assertions don't reflect the firm's values, culture or "how the vast majority of people at Goldman Sachs think about the firm and the work it does on behalf of our clients."

    Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, 84, whose "Volcker rule" would limit banks like New York-based Goldman Sachs from making bets with their own money, called Smith's article "a radical, strong" piece. "I'm afraid it's a business that leads to a lot of conflicts of interest," Volcker said at a conference in Washington sponsored by the Atlantic.

    Goldman Sachs slid $4.17 to $120.37 yesterday, leaving the shares still up 33 percent this year. The stock advanced 0.7 percent to $121.20 by 11:16 a.m. in Germany today.

    David Wells, a spokesman for Goldman Sachs in New York, declined to comment beyond the contents of the memo and an earlier e-mailed statement in which the firm said it disagrees with the views expressed in the op-ed.

    Fraud Lawsuit

    Executives at Goldman Sachs haven't changed their behavior even after the firm paid $550 million to settle a fraud lawsuit with the Securities and Exchange Commission and was accused by the U.S. Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of misleading clients, Smith wrote. The company published a report in January 2011 with 39 recommendations on how to improve its business practices and client focus.

    "Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as ‘muppets,' sometimes over internal e-mail," Smith wrote. "It astounds me how little senior management gets a basic truth: If clients don't trust you they will eventually stop doing business with you."

    The article was e-mailed across Wall Street. One employee at Bank of America Corp.'s Merrill Lynch division, a competitor to Goldman Sachs, said his team was told not to send copies to clients. Parodies such as "Why I am leaving the Empire, by Darth Vader" on thedailymash.co.uk and theborowitzreport.com's "A Response from Goldman Sachs" also circulated.

    ‘Does Hurt'

    "It does hurt them," said Stephane Rambosson, managing partner at executive search firm Veni Partners in London and a former Citigroup Inc. banker. "The perception of the firm has gone down, and a lot of the winners of tomorrow are sitting back and thinking, ‘Do I want to be with Goldman?'"

    There's little evidence that the firm's popularity with clients has been hurt by the SEC lawsuit, the Senate's criticism or a recent ruling by Delaware Chancery Court Judge Leo Strine, who faulted Goldman Sachs's handling of a conflict of interest. The bank won more business than any other in advising companies on takeovers and equity offerings last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

    Some clients of Goldman Sachs's sales and trading department, the business in which Smith worked, said they are always cautious in dealings with Wall Street banks, understanding that their interests can diverge.

    ‘Prostitution in Vegas'

    "The argument that Goldman has become increasingly profit- driven, sometimes at the expense of clients' best interests, and that some employees use vulgar and disrespectful language, is hardly news," Whitney Tilson, founder of hedge fund T2 Partners LLC, wrote in an e-mailed commentary. "What's the next ‘shocking' headline: ‘Prostitution in Vegas!?'"

    Smith was an executive director in London, a title equal to vice president in New York. The firm employs almost 12,000 vice presidents, and most said in a recent internal survey that "the firm provides exceptional service" to clients, Blankfein and Cohn said in the memo. Smith, who sold U.S. equity derivatives to clients in Europe, the Middle East and Africa, didn't respond to calls seeking comment.

    Seven former Goldman Sachs partners and managing directors, positions that are more senior than vice president, said in interviews that Smith shouldn't be taken seriously because he was a junior employee and may have been disgruntled about his pay or career. All asked not to be identified because they didn't want to risk ruining their relationship with the firm.

    Still, six of the seven said they agreed with Smith's criticism of how the firm has treated clients under Blankfein and Cohn's management and that current members of the management committee would, too. Even so, they said they don't expect the board of directors to take action or that anything will change because the firm has made money and outperformed most rivals.

    ‘On a Pedestal'

    "He may have aired a few comments that are true, but he's placed himself on a pedestal," said Jason Kennedy, CEO of the Kennedy Group, a London-based recruitment firm. "The reason he's been at Goldman Sachs for 12 years is that he liked the name and probably liked the money."

    It's rare for people on Wall Street, especially at Goldman Sachs, to speak out publicly against their employers or former employees, said Roy Smith, a former Goldman Sachs partner who's now a finance professor at New York University's Stern School of Business.

    "Who's going to hire someone who would do that?" he said. "The industry will close ranks on such things as whistle- blowing in this context."

    Sales and Trading

    NYU's Smith, who's not related to the author of the op-ed, said Wall Street's culture has changed because trading has become a more important source of revenue than the fees banks get from advising companies on takeovers or financing. Goldman Sachs generated 60 percent of its 2011 revenue from sales and trading.

    The relationship with clients in the trading department differs from the investment bank, Smith said. Firms often are on the opposite side of a client's trade, and can profit at the client's expense. Still, it's not as simple as the article describes, he said.

    "It just doesn't happen that it's easy to make money by ripping off your clients or counterparties because they're pretty smart people for the most part," he said.

    Though some competitors relished the criticism of Goldman Sachs, which was the most profitable securities firm in Wall Street history before it converted to a bank in 2008, they may not be so different.

    Smith's opinion piece "seems to be symptomatic of many, if not most, of the banks around the world," said Tom Kirchmaier, a fellow in the financial-markets group at the London School of Economics. "It might be that Goldman, as one of the most successful ones, is also one of the most extreme."
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    An anonymous Goldman Sachs insider shares the hilarious conversations overheard in the GS elevator. Warning: reading this could induce some vicarious shame.

    Employees of Goldman Sachs seem to have confidence in abundance, if we have to believe the tweets from @GSElevator. The tweets from this anonymous banker became a global phenomenon and close to 400.000 people are following his latest gossips. After reading these conversations (often monologues), you might understand why former executive director of Goldman Sachs, Greg Smith, decided to leave the company. But for now, let us enjoy the bluntness and overconfidence of these six figure earning brats.


    #1: I would pay like $500k to watch the Kardashians play scrabble. :lol:


    #1: Can we please stop calling them hipsters and go back to calling them pussies?


    #1: The lottery is just a way of taxing poor people who don't know math.


    #1: If I could choose between world peace and a reasonable fortune, my first Lambo would be orange.


    #1: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.


    #1: When life gives you lemons, order the lobster tail.


    #1: Almost time for children to learn a valuable life lesson. Santa loves rich kids more.


    #1: [At the gym] What machine should I use to impress the girls?
    #2: The ATM.


    #1: Listening to Obama talk about the economy is like listening to a chick talk about football. :lol:


    #1: A guy came up to me at the gym and asked me what event I was training so hard for. Life, motherfucker.


    #1: YOLO is poor for carpe diem.


    #1: Fact. Nearly 50% of all American workers have less than $10k saved for retirement.
    #2: Damn. That wouldn't cover a ski weekend.


    #1: Getting laid off from Goldman is like being traded by the Yankees. You’ll probably still make millions, but it’s just not the same.


    #1: Black Friday is the Special Olympics of capitalism.


    #1: Money might not buy happiness, but I'll take my chances!


    #1: Handshakes and tie knots. I don't have time for someone who can't master those basic skills.


    #1: I never give money to homeless people. I can't reward failure in good conscience.

    #1: Groupon... Food stamps for the middle class.


    #1: If you can only be good at one thing, be good at lying... because if you're good at lying, you're good at everything.


    #1: My garbage disposal eats better than 98% of the world.


    Holy shit this is some funny stuff :lol: