Something to ponder: The Ideal Woman's Body
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Marisa Miller has THE perfect body0
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BhagavadGita wrote:so fucking predictable...
Predictable... and sad. :(
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unsung & lay down your arms: Did either of you watch the video in the original post?0
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scb wrote:unsung & lay down your arms: Did either of you watch the video in the original post?
I watched the video and it had its disturbing parts but I don't think it really tells us anything new about anorexia. I saw it as more of an artistic expression than anything.
Truth is, the perfect body lies somewhere in between Paula Deen and Lara Flynn BoyleNERDS!0 -
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I understood it. Anorexia is a serious problem. Being too skinny is a problem as is being overtly obese. That was the point I was trying to make.NERDS!0
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I'm all about being HEALTHY... the woman in the 2nd post is definitely healthy - not anorexic. You should not give a damn what anyone else thinks about you or how they judge you. When people judge you it defines themselves, not you. Stop giving a damn what anyone else thinks and get HEALTHY for YOURSELF.Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.0
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Women are given a Barbie doll and men are given a He-Man image to measure up to. Men, generally, are somehow able to shrug that image off (somewhat) and be comfortable with the way they are.
Is it the difference in social circles between men and women?Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
BhagavadGita wrote:The inability to see the truth is what the media (mostly men) have done to the female body image.
It's de-evolution baby.
Just watch this post. It will never make the point because of ignorant statements and stupid gags. It's almost funny to see how few actually have compassion for the suffering of women's issues.
....watch how many posts will talk about something other than the original post.
Sad.
I wonder if that woman in the video was their mother or sister, would they be so glib?
Why are some "men" like this? Especially a Pearl Jam fan? I guess they don't hear the music. Personally I find their responses the opposite of sexy, it's repulsive and personally I'd like to see one man watch that video and actually show some understanding of the other half, us women, you rely on.
Come on 2012, let's end this freak fest. :!:
I'm gonna stir up the hornets nest here, but I disagree that it's "mostly men" who ruined the female body image... Us guys will take what we can get... if no women looked like that blonde above, we wouldn't really care...
Here's an analogy for you... we like sports cars... we'll look at pictures of Ferrari's all day, but are perfectly happy driving our Toyota sedan or whatever we have. Just because we like to look at something, doesn't mean that only want that. I'd love to have a big house with 50 acres of land, but I'm happy with our 1500 sq/ft house and small lot in a decent neighborhood.
It's women who buy Cosmo and magazines like that who constantly compare themselves to the sick-thin models... it's mostly women who watch the E! Channel and the TMZ, People, celebrity gossip shows/magazines where these celebrities are shown and criticized (by other women) if they gained 1 pound or didn't get back to heroin-thin 3 weeks after having a baby.
When women get all dressed up and all made up, a lot of the time it's to impress their girlfriends.
Do some men do it? absolutely, but besides the small amount of completely shallow douchebags out there who women probably don't want to be with anyway (but oddly enough some women are attracted to), the rest of us really don't expect a 105 lb model or whatever.My whole life
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blackredyellow wrote:BhagavadGita wrote:The inability to see the truth is what the media (mostly men) have done to the female body image.
It's de-evolution baby.
Just watch this post. It will never make the point because of ignorant statements and stupid gags. It's almost funny to see how few actually have compassion for the suffering of women's issues.
....watch how many posts will talk about something other than the original post.
Sad.
I wonder if that woman in the video was their mother or sister, would they be so glib?
Why are some "men" like this? Especially a Pearl Jam fan? I guess they don't hear the music. Personally I find their responses the opposite of sexy, it's repulsive and personally I'd like to see one man watch that video and actually show some understanding of the other half, us women, you rely on.
Come on 2012, let's end this freak fest. :!:
I'm gonna stir up the hornets nest here, but I disagree that it's "mostly men" who ruined the female body image... Us guys will take what we can get... if no women looked like that blonde above, we wouldn't really care...
Here's an analogy for you... we like sports cars... we'll look at pictures of Ferrari's all day, but are perfectly happy driving our Toyota sedan or whatever we have. Just because we like to look at something, doesn't mean that only want that. I'd love to have a big house with 50 acres of land, but I'm happy with our 1500 sq/ft house and small lot in a decent neighborhood.
It's women who buy Cosmo and magazines like that who constantly compare themselves to the sick-thin models... it's mostly women who watch the E! Channel and the TMZ, People, celebrity gossip shows/magazines where these celebrities are shown and criticized (by other women) if they gained 1 pound or didn't get back to heroin-thin 3 weeks after having a baby.
When women get all dressed up and all made up, a lot of the time it's to impress their girlfriends.
Do some men do it? absolutely, but besides the small amount of completely shallow douchebags out there who women probably don't want to be with anyway (but oddly enough some women are attracted to), the rest of us really don't expect a 105 lb model or whatever.
I totally agree that with Blackredyellow here that the idea that it is mostly men who are the problem is kind of ridiculous. I will also add that not only is it women who buy those fashion magazines like Cosmo, the editor’s in chief for pretty much all of those big fashion magazines are women. So if men really were to blame, why don’t these women who actually have a position of power do something to change things? Instead pretty much all of them fill their magazines photos of super hot women, who they then touch up to look even hotter and unrealistic.0 -
I watched the video. I don't have speakers on this computer (I'm at work), but I think I got the point anyway (don't know if there is something to be heard on the vid).
In answer to the question: What is the ideal female body like? I don't think that there is one ideal type, different strokes for different folks, as always.
I don't have a "perfect" body, but I like it. More on some days and on others. But the important thing is that I'm fine with it. And as an added bonus, my boyfriend likes it too.
Negative body image, trying to achieve the often unattainable "perfect" body and eating disorders are all serious issues. I don't think a person can be truly happy if they're not comfortable in their own body. Like someone said earlier, a lot of blame for women's body issues is laid on men. That's unfair as it's members of both sexes that contribute to the vicious cycle. And yes, women are probably the bigger culprit - the magazines, the clothes (trends), the diets, the belief that men only like that one specific type of female..
What I think is worst, is that children learn these misconceptions on how they should look and act, at an increasingly early age."Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."0 -
eMMI wrote:I watched the video. I don't have speakers on this computer (I'm at work), but I think I got the point anyway (don't know if there is something to be heard on the vid).NERDS!0
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South of Seattle wrote:eMMI wrote:I watched the video. I don't have speakers on this computer (I'm at work), but I think I got the point anyway (don't know if there is something to be heard on the vid).
Excellent."Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."0 -
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BhagavadGita wrote:he still stands wrote:I'm all about being HEALTHY... the woman in the 2nd post is definitely healthy - not anorexic. You should not give a damn what anyone else thinks about you or how they judge you. When people judge you it defines themselves, not you. Stop giving a damn what anyone else thinks and get HEALTHY for YOURSELF.
I am healthy, I'm giving a dam for the people who have no voice because it's drowned out by comments like yours to "just stop feeling that way." How inventive and helpful.
By the way, do you own a TV. Do you ever see magazine covers? Our culture is killing all of us and some are just blind to it.
If you're healthy then great! (by the way I'm sorry for my sloppy use of pronouns by "you" I didn't necessarily mean the OP).... And like I was saying just don't pay attention to what others say or think. "Just stop feeling that way"...??? Maybe... "how you choose to feel is how I am" That doesn't mean that I mean to give people with anorexia no voice or "drown out their comments" it is just a suggestion for GETTING OUT OF YOUR HEAD.
And no, I don't own a TV or see magazine covers! Well I guess I get a quick glilmpse of magazine covers at the grocery store but thats it.Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.0 -
blackredyellow wrote:I'm gonna stir up the hornets nest here, but I disagree that it's "mostly men" who ruined the female body image... Us guys will take what we can get... if no women looked like that blonde above, we wouldn't really care...
Here's an analogy for you... we like sports cars... we'll look at pictures of Ferrari's all day, but are perfectly happy driving our Toyota sedan or whatever we have. Just because we like to look at something, doesn't mean that only want that. I'd love to have a big house with 50 acres of land, but I'm happy with our 1500 sq/ft house and small lot in a decent neighborhood.
It's women who buy Cosmo and magazines like that who constantly compare themselves to the sick-thin models... it's mostly women who watch the E! Channel and the TMZ, People, celebrity gossip shows/magazines where these celebrities are shown and criticized (by other women) if they gained 1 pound or didn't get back to heroin-thin 3 weeks after having a baby.
When women get all dressed up and all made up, a lot of the time it's to impress their girlfriends.
Do some men do it? absolutely, but besides the small amount of completely shallow douchebags out there who women probably don't want to be with anyway (but oddly enough some women are attracted to), the rest of us really don't expect a 105 lb model or whatever.
Yeah, "most men"!?
wtf is that?
I completely agree with you blackredyellow...
anorexia/bulimia is a terrible thing, but it is in the mind of the person who is suffering.
The only fix i see to the problem would be if everyone stopped buying the fashion magazines, stupid gossip shows, ect...Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)0
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