Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

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Supreme Court: Sex offenders can be held indefinitely

By the CNN Wire Staff
May 17, 2010 11:23 a.m. EDT

(CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday the federal government has the power to keep some sex offenders behind bars indefinitely after they have served their sentences if officials determine those inmates may prove "sexually dangerous" in the future.

"The federal government, as custodian of its prisoners, has the constitutional power to act in order to protect nearby (and other) communities from the danger such prisoners may pose," Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the 7-2 majority.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Sweet - maybe this will solve the Christianity epidemic ..ha! :D
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  • unsung
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    I'm all for their execution.
  • yahamita
    yahamita Posts: 1,514
    Will bank robbers be next? No matter what the crime, we all have rights! for now....
    I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me...GUARANTEED!

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    yahamita wrote:
    Will bank robbers be next? No matter what the crime, we all have rights! for now....

    I see where your coming from on that but too many sex offenders get out and go right back to the crime that got them there in the first place, these guys are dirt bags anyway, and bank robbers....who's robbing who ? :lol:
    Godfather.
  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    I imagine a sex offender would love to be held indefinitely. :shock:
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    unsung wrote:
    I'm all for their execution.


    or we could stop animal testing and use these people instead?

    i wonder how the catholic church would get new priests if all them are indefinitely detained?

    ohhhhhhhhh right, they get away with their child rapes
    don't compete; coexist

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    That's a tough call.
    On the one hand, it is difficult to determine what a sex offender will do, once out of the prison system. There are not many opportunities for child molestors in prision, since there are no kids in prison.
    On the other hand, people have been able to live in our society after serving their sentences.
    Who will be making the determination on who stays and who goes free?
    ...
    Also, a Sex Offender could be a 19 year old with a 16 year old girlfriend. Even with the 16 year old's consent, he/she in not legally capable of authorizing consent making the 19 year old a sex offender. Yes, poor judgement on the 19 year old's part... but, we all went to high school and remember the girls who were 16 going on 26.
    And YES... I understand that the letter of the law states the most dangerous offenders. I'm just wondering about the person who will determine the spirit of the law.
    ...
    A tough call.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    I'm all for their execution.
    ...
    So... you are more in line with the beliefs of someone like Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong Ill, right?
    Understood.
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  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Send them all to Vatican City.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Send them all to Vatican City.
    ... where they came from.
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  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Godfather. wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    Will bank robbers be next? No matter what the crime, we all have rights! for now....

    I see where your coming from on that but too many sex offenders get out and go right back to the crime that got them there in the first place, these guys are dirt bags anyway, and bank robbers....who's robbing who ? :lol:
    Godfather.


    So why not make the stanard punishment for a serious sex crime life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years. That would seem to be a better way of taking care of the re-offender problem, without telling someone after their prison term is up that they can be kept in prison for an indefinite period of time.
  • _
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    Cosmo wrote:
    That's a tough call.
    On the one hand, it is difficult to determine what a sex offender will do, once out of the prison system. There are not many opportunities for child molestors in prision, since there are no kids in prison.
    On the other hand, people have been able to live in our society after serving their sentences.
    Who will be making the determination on who stays and who goes free?
    ...
    Also, a Sex Offender could be a 19 year old with a 16 year old girlfriend. Even with the 16 year old's consent, he/she in not legally capable of authorizing consent making the 19 year old a sex offender. Yes, poor judgement on the 19 year old's part... but, we all went to high school and remember the girls who were 16 going on 26.
    And YES... I understand that the letter of the law states the most dangerous offenders. I'm just wondering about the person who will determine the spirit of the law.
    ...
    A tough call.

    I'm with you on this one. Also, I wonder if they'll just keep them in prison, or if they'll have a special place for them like the mental facilities for criminals.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,976
    If you had a ticking time bomb...would allow it to wonder wherever it wanted?

    The truth is, I don't like this ruling really. But the other truth is, I think sex offenders' sentences are way too lenient to begin with. Hmmmm....tough call.
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    cincybearcat wrote:
    The truth is, I don't like this ruling really. But the other truth is, I think sex offenders' sentences are way too lenient to begin with. Hmmmm....tough call.


    exactly. i don't like the idea of holding anyone indefinitely like that, what if it's a 19 year old that had sex with a 17 year old?

    my earlier post wouldn't be an across the board thing, it would be for the worst ones, the violent, sadistic, repeating ones
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Cosmo wrote:
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Send them all to Vatican City.
    ... where they came from.
    Cosmo wrote:
    My point... yes, go after the ones that head the criminal enterprises with solid police work and identify the individuals within the population instead of treating the entire population as criminals.

    Cosmo you said the above quote in another thread. Please practice what you preach. Not all preists are kiddie touchers.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Send them all to Vatican City.
    ... where they came from.
    Cosmo wrote:
    My point... yes, go after the ones that head the criminal enterprises with solid police work and identify the individuals within the population instead of treating the entire population as criminals.

    Cosmo you said the above quote in another thread. Please practice what you preach. Not all preists are kiddie touchers.
    ...
    Yeah... it was a joke. In poor taste, i admit.
    Sorry for offending your sensitivities.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    No worries.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    yahamita wrote:
    Will bank robbers be next? No matter what the crime, we all have rights! for now....

    I see where your coming from on that but too many sex offenders get out and go right back to the crime that got them there in the first place, these guys are dirt bags anyway, and bank robbers....who's robbing who ? :lol:
    Godfather.


    So why not make the stanard punishment for a serious sex crime life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years. That would seem to be a better way of taking care of the re-offender problem, without telling someone after their prison term is up that they can be kept in prison for an indefinite period of time.

    good idea.

    Godfather.
  • unsung
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    Child Predators can not be rehabilitated. I cheered the day Michael Jackson died. Child rapists should be executed.


    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I'm all for their execution.
    ...
    So... you are more in line with the beliefs of someone like Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong Ill, right?
    Understood.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Child Predators can not be rehabilitated. I cheered the day Michael Jackson died. Child rapists should be executed.
    ...
    So, Child Molestor/Child Rapists... not the 19 year old whose 16 year old girlfriend's dad got statutory rape convivtin, labeling him as a 'Sex Offender' in not in your Death Reach, right?
    Understood.
    And since I am not willing to press the plunger of a leathal dose into anyone... I would say that a nice, long stay at a maximum security facility... in the general prison population... is pretty good punishment for them.
    And yes, for the worst of the rapists and molestors... 25 to life should be the penalty.
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