UFO's Fact of Fiction ?

I'm not afraid to admit I've seen UFOs. I'm not saying it was an alien ship from outer space, but only that it was an Unidentified Flying Object in the sky. It definitely wasn't any type of airplane or helicopter or anything like that.

Most recently was when I was in Phoenix. I looked to the East from a comedy club in Tempe. Smoking a cig waiting for the show to begin. I saw numerous red lights, probably 8 to 10, dancing around in the sky and this lasted for probably 30 to 40 seconds. They would slow down and fly "normally" for a few seconds and then zip around at speeds that must have been maybe 1/4 the speed of light. Much faster than anything of this world could travel. Then they flew away into the horizon.

The exact same thing happened when I was probably 12 years old. I was riding in a car with my parents in the middle of nowhere Illinois. EXACT same occurence.

I have no idea what it was, but I know what I saw. It could have been some sort of illusion caused by the atmosphere or the sun or whatever... but it was real to me.

So yeah, UFO's; FACT.

Aliens? I don't know. The scientist in me doubts it.

So to sum it up, faith in god is ok, but faith in other life forms existing is not (science/existence, etc). No need to discuss further as we all know where it leads and that whole routine.

Godfather. wrote:

faith Brother, I have seen what a little prayer can do but that's a story I'll keep.

Godfather

Godfather. wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

Do you feel the same about a god/creator/overseer? No proof of sight equals no existence?

Godfather. wrote:

have any of you ever seen a UFO or any other form of life from outside our planet, when I see I will believe.

Godfather.

faith Brother, I have seen what a little prayer can do but that's a story I'll keep.

Godfather

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So... in other words, "You've got nothing". No proof, but belief.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

FiveB247x wrote:

I don't discount the possibility of other beings of some sort in the universe. The vast size and possibility would find it more likely than not that some type of being exists. That could be the smallest life form or something as complex as humans or even more evolved.

And I have always been one to believe that there is zero difference between the god and alien discussion. The possibility is out-there but we simply do not know and can't account for everything - just simply unknown - just like a god or alien. People who believe in aliens would probably agree, but people are are religious usually take offense. Aliens are so outlandish, but the thought of an invisible creator/puppeteer is absolute.. ha!

The vast size of the universe is also a good reason to believe that aliens haven't visited earth. I mean there is like an infinite number of solar systems out there. What are the odds that beings from another planet in another solar system was able to develop interstellar travel and then find us? Out of all the planets out there, the odds of them finding us are probably approaching zero.

On top of that in the 13 billion year history of the universe what are the odds that in the 2 million year history of humans (or bipedal human like primates) which is like a dot on a very long line, that life from another planet was developed enough to have space travel in and find our planet? I mean it is just as likely there was an alien species that evolved and went extinct long before humans ever started to evolve.

13 billion, i think you mean 6 thousand...and what is this evolve you speak of?

It certainly is a naive point of view to think there is no one else out there. the universe is huge...like sean hannity ego huge.

While i firmly believe alien life to be a FACT (statistically speaking),
i am also of the opinion that THE PUSH TOWARDS ACCEPTANCE OF ALIEN VISITATION IN THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS AS OF LATE is squarely a Governmental CONTROL scheme.

All this horseshit about Annunaki, alien visitation, star men from Sirius, blah blah blah,
The hoax at Roswell, and all this other crap ...

I think it is a PLOY
to make us all *scared*
possibly to be acted out further in coming years, or decades (fake invasions? war of the worlds?)
possibly simply used to help subvert the christian faith and usher in a new secular \pagan era
(for how can one believe in the Bible AND aliens in a "fundamental" sense?)
or god knows for what other horseshit reason.

But i do NOT have any reason to believe that the generally understood "UFO" phenomena has ANYthing to do with visiting "aliens". If ANYthing, it is a result of highly classified GOVERNMENT projects.
Go look up "Nazi UFOs" on youtube. Go look up "Nazi Vril" then research "Vril" itself, understand the contextual reference involved. Understand that it is linked right back to all this "new age" and Aryan HORSESHIT. Something smells fishy, does it not !!??!!

Blech!