Building Apple computers
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Child labour, sweatshops, unsafe conditions, toxic poisoning, excessive work hours. Guess I wont be buying anymore Apple products.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/a ... abour.html
At least eleven 15-year-old children were discovered to be working last year in three factories which supply Apple.
The company did not name the offending factories, or say where they were based, but the majority of its goods are assembled in China.
Apple said the child workers are now no longer being used, or are no longer underage. "In each of the three facilities, we required a review of all employment records for the year as well as a complete analysis of the hiring process to clarify how underage people had been able to gain employment," Apple said, in an annual report on its suppliers.
Apple has been repeatedly criticised for using factories that abuse workers and where conditions are poor. Last week, it emerged that 62 workers at a factory that manufactures products for Apple and Nokia had been poisoned by n-hexane, a toxic chemical that can cause muscular degeneration and blur eyesight. Apple has not commented on the problems at the plant, which is run by Wintek, in the Chinese city of Suzhou.
A spokesman for Wintek said that "almost all" of the affected workers were back at work, but that some remained in hospital. Wintek said n-hexane was commonly used in the technology industry, and that problems had arisen because some areas of the factory were not ventilated properly.
Last year, an employee at Foxconn, the Taiwanese company that is one of Apple's biggest suppliers, committed suicide after being accused of stealing a prototype for the iPhone.
Sun Danyong, 25, was a university graduate working in the logistics department when the prototype went missing. An investigation revealed that the factory's security staff had beaten him, and he subsequently jumped to his death from the 12th floor of his apartment building.
Foxconn runs a number of super-factories in the south of China, some of which employ as many as 300,000 workers and form self-contained cities, complete with banks, post offices and basketball courts.
It has been accused, however, of treating its employees extremely harshly. China Labor Watch, a New York-based NGO, accused Foxconn of having an "inhumane and militant" management, which neglects basic human rights. Foxconn's management were not available for comment.
In its report, Apple revealed the sweatshop conditions inside the factories it uses. Apple admitted that at least 55 of the 102 factories that produce its goods were ignoring Apple's rule that staff cannot work more than 60 hours a week.
The technology company's own guidelines are already in breach of China's widely-ignored labour law, which sets out a maximum 49-hour week for workers.
Apple also said that one of its factories had repeatedly falsified its records in order to conceal the fact that it was using child labour and working its staff endlessly.
"When we investigated, we uncovered records and conducted worker interviews that revealed excessive working hours and seven days of continuous work," Apple said, adding that it had terminated all contracts with the factory.
Only 65 per cent of the factories were paying their staff the correct wages and benefits, and Apple found 24 factories where workers had not even been paid China's minimum wage of around 800 yuan (Pounds76) a month.
Meanwhile, only 61 per cent of Apple's suppliers were following regulations to prevent injuries in the workplace and a mere 57 per cent had the correct environmental permits to operate.
The high environmental cost of Apple's products was revealed when three factories were discovered to be shipping hazardous waste to unqualified disposal companies.
Apple said it had required the factories to "perform immediate inspections of their wastewater discharge systems" and hire an independent environmental consultant to prevent future violations.
However, Apple has not stopped using the factories.
In 2008, Apple found that a total of 25 child workers had been employed to build iPods, iPhones and its range of computers.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/a ... abour.html
At least eleven 15-year-old children were discovered to be working last year in three factories which supply Apple.
The company did not name the offending factories, or say where they were based, but the majority of its goods are assembled in China.
Apple said the child workers are now no longer being used, or are no longer underage. "In each of the three facilities, we required a review of all employment records for the year as well as a complete analysis of the hiring process to clarify how underage people had been able to gain employment," Apple said, in an annual report on its suppliers.
Apple has been repeatedly criticised for using factories that abuse workers and where conditions are poor. Last week, it emerged that 62 workers at a factory that manufactures products for Apple and Nokia had been poisoned by n-hexane, a toxic chemical that can cause muscular degeneration and blur eyesight. Apple has not commented on the problems at the plant, which is run by Wintek, in the Chinese city of Suzhou.
A spokesman for Wintek said that "almost all" of the affected workers were back at work, but that some remained in hospital. Wintek said n-hexane was commonly used in the technology industry, and that problems had arisen because some areas of the factory were not ventilated properly.
Last year, an employee at Foxconn, the Taiwanese company that is one of Apple's biggest suppliers, committed suicide after being accused of stealing a prototype for the iPhone.
Sun Danyong, 25, was a university graduate working in the logistics department when the prototype went missing. An investigation revealed that the factory's security staff had beaten him, and he subsequently jumped to his death from the 12th floor of his apartment building.
Foxconn runs a number of super-factories in the south of China, some of which employ as many as 300,000 workers and form self-contained cities, complete with banks, post offices and basketball courts.
It has been accused, however, of treating its employees extremely harshly. China Labor Watch, a New York-based NGO, accused Foxconn of having an "inhumane and militant" management, which neglects basic human rights. Foxconn's management were not available for comment.
In its report, Apple revealed the sweatshop conditions inside the factories it uses. Apple admitted that at least 55 of the 102 factories that produce its goods were ignoring Apple's rule that staff cannot work more than 60 hours a week.
The technology company's own guidelines are already in breach of China's widely-ignored labour law, which sets out a maximum 49-hour week for workers.
Apple also said that one of its factories had repeatedly falsified its records in order to conceal the fact that it was using child labour and working its staff endlessly.
"When we investigated, we uncovered records and conducted worker interviews that revealed excessive working hours and seven days of continuous work," Apple said, adding that it had terminated all contracts with the factory.
Only 65 per cent of the factories were paying their staff the correct wages and benefits, and Apple found 24 factories where workers had not even been paid China's minimum wage of around 800 yuan (Pounds76) a month.
Meanwhile, only 61 per cent of Apple's suppliers were following regulations to prevent injuries in the workplace and a mere 57 per cent had the correct environmental permits to operate.
The high environmental cost of Apple's products was revealed when three factories were discovered to be shipping hazardous waste to unqualified disposal companies.
Apple said it had required the factories to "perform immediate inspections of their wastewater discharge systems" and hire an independent environmental consultant to prevent future violations.
However, Apple has not stopped using the factories.
In 2008, Apple found that a total of 25 child workers had been employed to build iPods, iPhones and its range of computers.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?0 -
unsung wrote:You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?
hey buddy is anything made in the USA anymore seems we are eagar to stick the money in some elses pocket,0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487There are many things still made here. You just have to look a little and put forth a bit of effort.0 -
Apple is one of the worst - if not the worst - major computing and electronics manufacturers from an environmental standpoint. They've actually worked their way up to #133 on the Green List. I think Dell and HP are #1 and #2. IBM and Intel have also made lots of improvements. Not perfect, but at least improving.
Apple fanboys and fangirls puzzle me - i guess the products are supposedly so cool they're willing to give the company and that d-bag Jobs a pass on just about anything :?0 -
unsung wrote:There are many things still made here. You just have to look a little and put forth a bit of effort.
i knows but there rare,0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487This just illustrates why the manufacturing should be done in this country. We have laws to protect people from being abused like that.
Companies rarely have to answer for these things because they will claim that the work is contracted out and they don't have the oversight.0 -
unsung wrote:This just illustrates why the manufacturing should be done in this country. We have laws to protect people from being abused like that.
Companies rarely have to answer for these things because they will claim that the work is contracted out and they don't have the oversight.
By that logic, the manufacturing shouldn't be done in the United States. I mean for all the talk about how unfair it is that jobs are going to China because they abuse workers rights, workers in other parts of the world like Canada, have it way better and have way more of their jobs protected compared to the United States.0 -
unsung wrote:You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?
Where do you get computers and other electronics? Serious question.0 -
and just think how much stronger our economy would be with a strong manufacturing sector.unsung wrote:This just illustrates why the manufacturing should be done in this country. We have laws to protect people from being abused like that.
Companies rarely have to answer for these things because they will claim that the work is contracted out and they don't have the oversight.0 -
the problem with cellphones is the coltanunsung wrote:You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?live pearl jam is best pearl jam0 -
Honestly and this will sound crude
but the issue is not that they are 15, you might not agree with it but the lifestyle in rural China is one that kids work when they reach the age to, they don't go to school but contribute to the family financially everyone probably works in the factory. Not saying this is right but it is a whole separate issue...
Regardless working conditions should be safe and standard with a priority for human rights
and it is something that our government should be regulating not the country's government where the factory is.**CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **0 -
michelle822 wrote:Apple is one of the worst - if not the worst - major computing and electronics manufacturers from an environmental standpoint. They've actually worked their way up to #133 on the Green List. I think Dell and HP are #1 and #2. IBM and Intel have also made lots of improvements. Not perfect, but at least improving.
Apple fanboys and fangirls puzzle me - i guess the products are supposedly so cool they're willing to give the company and that d-bag Jobs a pass on just about anything :?
+1
Jobs totally rubs me the wrong way ...0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Kel Varnsen wrote:unsung wrote:This just illustrates why the manufacturing should be done in this country. We have laws to protect people from being abused like that.
Companies rarely have to answer for these things because they will claim that the work is contracted out and they don't have the oversight.
By that logic, the manufacturing shouldn't be done in the United States. I mean for all the talk about how unfair it is that jobs are going to China because they abuse workers rights, workers in other parts of the world like Canada, have it way better and have way more of their jobs protected compared to the United States.
I have no problem with buying products made in those countries either. However I live in the US so I try to support my fellow citizens first.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Cliffy6745 wrote:unsung wrote:You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?
Where do you get computers and other electronics? Serious question.
I'm using an OLD Apple made in Taiwan. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when it comes time to replace it.
I just bought a clothes iron made in Germany because it was the only one not made in China out of about a dozen at Target. It cost $90 compared to $25-35 for the Chinese models. I just bought a cheap microwave made in Thailand, all the rest were made in China. Now for serious appliances my next house will be all USA and German made equipment. I'm selling my house right now so I'm renting a townhome until it sells, kind of sucks making double payments but I don't want someone trolling through my things when I'm not there.0 -
unsung wrote:Kel Varnsen wrote:unsung wrote:This just illustrates why the manufacturing should be done in this country. We have laws to protect people from being abused like that.
Companies rarely have to answer for these things because they will claim that the work is contracted out and they don't have the oversight.
By that logic, the manufacturing shouldn't be done in the United States. I mean for all the talk about how unfair it is that jobs are going to China because they abuse workers rights, workers in other parts of the world like Canada, have it way better and have way more of their jobs protected compared to the United States.
I have no problem with buying products made in those countries either. However I live in the US so I try to support my fellow citizens first.
But how do you feel about stealing jobs from Canadians by supporting a country that has labour practices that allow for clothing and other products to be made for cheaper than they could be in Canada, thus taking advantage of workers who can't afford to move?0 -
unsung wrote:Cliffy6745 wrote:unsung wrote:You really should boycott made in China, not just Apple.
I'm sure this is not an isolated case.
Does anyone know if there are cell phones made in USA?
Where do you get computers and other electronics? Serious question.
I'm using an OLD Apple made in Taiwan. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when it comes time to replace it.
I just bought a clothes iron made in Germany because it was the only one not made in China out of about a dozen at Target. It cost $90 compared to $25-35 for the Chinese models. I just bought a cheap microwave made in Thailand, all the rest were made in China. Now for serious appliances my next house will be all USA and German made equipment. I'm selling my house right now so I'm renting a townhome until it sells, kind of sucks making double payments but I don't want someone trolling through my things when I'm not there.
This will definitely make me think twice about buying Apple however their products are made well and I prefer their operating system.....**CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **0 -
michelle822 wrote:Apple is one of the worst - if not the worst - major computing and electronics manufacturers from an environmental standpoint. They've actually worked their way up to #133 on the Green List. I think Dell and HP are #1 and #2. IBM and Intel have also made lots of improvements. Not perfect, but at least improving.
Apple fanboys and fangirls puzzle me - i guess the products are supposedly so cool they're willing to give the company and that d-bag Jobs a pass on just about anything :?
You should base your comments on real facts. You should not include statements such as "I think" without any evidence to support your comment. Take a look at this page from Green Peace:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... es-line-up
and
http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... lly-060110I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
Montreal 20/06/03, Montreal 15/09/05, Ottawa 16/09/05. Montreal 1 (EV) 09/08/08; Albany 2 (EV) 09/06/09.
Toronto 21/08/09; Cleveland 9/05/10; Buffalo 10/05/10. Montreal 7/09/11; Toronto 11/9/11; Toronto 12/9/11; Ottawa 14/9/11.
London 16/07/13; Pittsburg 11/10/13; Buffalo 12/10/13. Moline (No Code) 17/10/14, St Paul 19/10/14, Milwaukee (Yield) 20/10/14.
Quebec City 5/5/2016, Ottawa 8/5/2016; Toronto (Binaural) 10/5/2016, Toronto 12/5/2016 (Completed Ten, finally got Oceans).
London 18/7/2018, London 19/7/2018
, Boston 2/9/2018.
Quebec City 1/9/2022; Ottawa 3/9/2022; Hamilton 6/9/2022, Toronto 8/9/2022.0 -
agauthiermdphd wrote:
You should base your comments on real facts. You should not include statements such as "I think" without any evidence to support your comment. Take a look at this page from Green Peace:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... es-line-up
and
http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... lly-060110
I know my facts, thank you. *You* should consider Greenpeace is not the end-all, be-all of environmental rankings.
Oh, hello http://greenrankings.newsweek.com/
ps: that is exactly the correct use of "I think", if I were certain I would say "I know". English. Learn it.0 -
Another one from Green Peace
http://www.greenpeace.org/international ... ly-sell-gr
My last and final point as I hate to argue on line.I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
Montreal 20/06/03, Montreal 15/09/05, Ottawa 16/09/05. Montreal 1 (EV) 09/08/08; Albany 2 (EV) 09/06/09.
Toronto 21/08/09; Cleveland 9/05/10; Buffalo 10/05/10. Montreal 7/09/11; Toronto 11/9/11; Toronto 12/9/11; Ottawa 14/9/11.
London 16/07/13; Pittsburg 11/10/13; Buffalo 12/10/13. Moline (No Code) 17/10/14, St Paul 19/10/14, Milwaukee (Yield) 20/10/14.
Quebec City 5/5/2016, Ottawa 8/5/2016; Toronto (Binaural) 10/5/2016, Toronto 12/5/2016 (Completed Ten, finally got Oceans).
London 18/7/2018, London 19/7/2018
, Boston 2/9/2018.
Quebec City 1/9/2022; Ottawa 3/9/2022; Hamilton 6/9/2022, Toronto 8/9/2022.0 -
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