so far jb is down on triple a and alt charts. and up on active and hot ac charts. but not by much. and 2 songs passed it on the hot ac. i was checking on allacces the hot ac stations that were leaders in playing JB. And a big portion was played overnight. i'm not an expert. but i think less people hear the radio at night. i would like to see more afternoon play.
Gaining some ground in some places, losing ground in others. It's probably just about peaked. I think it's time to capitalize on JB's success and roll out single #3. Either that, or go on this 'rumored TV appearance' and play JB to shoot some life into it.
More importantly...ANNOUNCE SOME TOUR DATES!!!
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As T-Bone points out, "Just Breathe" moves up from #8 to #5 on Rock Songs, which is kind of a big move given the stagnant nature of that chart, especially after 18 weeks.
Unfortunately, this song has likely peaked unless someone does something to promote it. I don't think you'll see a third single. Any third single will have less potential for broad appeal than "Just Breathe" and will require significant promotion. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for that.
As T-Bone points out, "Just Breathe" moves up from #8 to #5 on Rock Songs, which is kind of a big move given the stagnant nature of that chart, especially after 18 weeks.
Unfortunately, this song has likely peaked unless someone does something to promote it. I don't think you'll see a third single. Any third single will have less potential for broad appeal than "Just Breathe" and will require significant promotion. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for that.
I don't know why this song is not in the top 10 in the hot 100. Maybe it still has a chance.
As T-Bone points out, "Just Breathe" moves up from #8 to #5 on Rock Songs, which is kind of a big move given the stagnant nature of that chart, especially after 18 weeks.
Unfortunately, this song has likely peaked unless someone does something to promote it. I don't think you'll see a third single. Any third single will have less potential for broad appeal than "Just Breathe" and will require significant promotion. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for that.
I don't know why this song is not in the top 10 in the hot 100. Maybe it still has a chance.
Two weeks ago, "Just Breathe" was downloaded 19,013 times and came in at #101 on Hot Digital Songs. Last week, it dropped 7 percent to 17,673 downloads and came in at #113. Downloads peaked three weeks ago when the song reached #91 on Hot Digital Songs with 20,871 downloads.
Chart run on Hot Digital Songs: 193-130-111-98-91-101-113.
i have been hearing this song on slacker radio as of late
which is odd , they usually dont play alot of pearl jam unless it is a station you create with pearl jam as the lead artist, everytime it comes on at work i sit there and think this song is amazing one of my favorite PJ songs of all time and it is one of those conversion songs, what i mean by that is someone who doesnt know pearl jam or listen to them would instantly go who is this? i have to get this album, thats how good it is for me
i have been hearing this song on slacker radio as of late
which is odd , they usually dont play alot of pearl jam unless it is a station you create with pearl jam as the lead artist, everytime it comes on at work i sit there and think this song is amazing one of my favorite PJ songs of all time and it is one of those conversion songs, what i mean by that is someone who doesnt know pearl jam or listen to them would instantly go who is this? i have to get this album, thats how good it is for me
I completely agree with you about this being a conversation song. It's a real good point.
I agree that this song "may have" peaked. What I don't understand is how it's moving UP on the rock charts. How is this possible?
Also, for more people who know more about charts and whatnot, are trends typically volatile or straight? In other words, it seems like for the most part, on Top 100 (atleast), Just Breathe moved down fairly consisently, and now has begun to move back up, although slowly. My question is, can it be the case that a song moves up down up down.... then all of the sudden takes off moving down rapidly? I'd be curious to see how a song like Use Somebody did over time. How it entered the Top 100, and how it moved around once inside.
Once upon a time, in the pre-Soundscan, pre-BDS days, the Billboard Hot 100 was very orderly. Songs progressed up the chart until reaching their peaks, then steadily descended until exiting the chart. Up-and-down movement was unusual, and it was extremely rare inside the top 40. When Johnny Hates Jazz dropped from #2 to #3 with "Shattered Dreams" in 1988 but kept its bullet, and then moved back up to #2 the following week, chart-watchers reacted like they had seen Halley's Comet.
Nowadays, however, the Hot 100 is very volatile in terms of up-and-down movement. Ironically, it's also a lot less interesting.
i still don't know why rock charts aren't included in the hot 100. at least i don't think it is.
The way airplay is counted on the Hot 100 is weighted based on audience. If a song is played 20 times in a given week on a top 40 station with an average audience of 100,000, it gets credit for 2,000,000 "audience impressions." If the same song is played 20 times in a given week on a rock station with an average audience of 20,000, it gets credit for 400,000 audience impressions. Rock stations generally have much smaller audiences than top 40 stations, so rock airplay will only get you so far on the Hot 100. That's why crossover to top 40 stations is necessary for a song to be a big hit on the chart.
i still don't know why rock charts aren't included in the hot 100. at least i don't think it is.
The way airplay is counted on the Hot 100 is weighted based on audience. If a song is played 20 times in a given week on a top 40 station with an average audience of 100,000, it gets credit for 2,000,000 "audience impressions." If the same song is played 20 times in a given week on a rock station with an average audience of 20,000, it gets credit for 400,000 audience impressions. Rock stations generally have much smaller audiences than top 40 stations, so rock airplay will only get you so far on the Hot 100. That's why crossover to top 40 stations is necessary for a song to be a big hit on the chart.
i've always wondered about whether it was spins or audience impressions that helped with the chart. because i would see a song have less spins than another song. but have more listeners.
I don't know what the exact definition of "JB did it" would be, but in The Netherlands (and probably several or most West-European countries) this song has had most impact since the early 1990s. I hear it everywhere (not saying all the time): when I turn on the TV, a colleague plays the radio or when I walk to the canteen at work.
I loved the song when I saw the making of Backspacer videoclip, and this is already a classic song.
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Discounting Last Kiss, it's Pearl Jam's biggest second single since the early 90's, no question.
Safe to say, this album would have moved atleast 100k more in the US at this point and time with a wider distribution other than Target...but there are other intangibles the band benefits from distributing the album solely through ITunes/Target.
I really, really want ATW to be the third single. I'm hoping that the Unthought Known rumors as a third single are false...it's a solid tune as well, just no way it does as well as ATW would.
Amongst The Waves would have been a great third single and huge hit if it was recorded with "old" Eddie and with that voice that People remembers from Alive, Even Flow and Jeremy. If it has that Ten-era anthemtic quality and strong vocals it would have knocked down the competition.
But ATW has too weak vocals, it's not anthemtic enoiugh in the chorus and lacks any punch that the early stuff had. So, even though I think it's a nice song because I love PJ and love Eddie it would not appeal to a general audience. It's too much of a struggle vocal-vise and doesn't have that punch in the chorus.
If old Eddie would sing it or if Chris Martin (if that is his name) would have sung on it arranged as a Coldplay-song it would have been a hit. (this is not me badmouthing PJ and praising Coldplay... I just think that the vocals on the track and how it sounds won't have people turing the head when it is played on the radio)
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I don't know if this song has peaked... although it's dropping in most charts (rock, alternative), it's gaining in adult pop, and rebounded in top 100. That may mean it's beginning to crossover, although losing some ground on typically PJ-friendly stations. It's interesting. SNL can only help, but may be a bit late. I think by April, a new single will be out. But, I'm not sure Just Breathe is done quite yet.
I hear that song everywhere. I have a 15 minute commute to work and am not in my car that often, but the song is always on Sirius. My player notifies me whenever PJ is on and that song sometimes plays simultaneously on two channels. I even have heard it shopping at Lowe's hardware store.
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The next single will be Amongst the Waves, if nothing else.
the whole song is a hook.
#5 Rock Songs w/ bullet
#6 Alternative songs w/ no bullet
#27 Adult Pop songs
#43 Canadian Hot 100
All according to Billboard - http://www.billboard.com/#/song/pearl-j ... e/14127136
Gaining some ground in some places, losing ground in others. It's probably just about peaked. I think it's time to capitalize on JB's success and roll out single #3. Either that, or go on this 'rumored TV appearance' and play JB to shoot some life into it.
More importantly...ANNOUNCE SOME TOUR DATES!!!
Yeah, it dropped to 91 from 89,
As T-Bone points out, "Just Breathe" moves up from #8 to #5 on Rock Songs, which is kind of a big move given the stagnant nature of that chart, especially after 18 weeks.
Unfortunately, this song has likely peaked unless someone does something to promote it. I don't think you'll see a third single. Any third single will have less potential for broad appeal than "Just Breathe" and will require significant promotion. There doesn't seem to be any appetite for that.
I don't know why this song is not in the top 10 in the hot 100. Maybe it still has a chance.
Zero promotion.
Two weeks ago, "Just Breathe" was downloaded 19,013 times and came in at #101 on Hot Digital Songs. Last week, it dropped 7 percent to 17,673 downloads and came in at #113. Downloads peaked three weeks ago when the song reached #91 on Hot Digital Songs with 20,871 downloads.
Chart run on Hot Digital Songs: 193-130-111-98-91-101-113.
Downloads, week-by-week since 1/16:
1/16: 17,889
1/23: 17,546
1/30: 18,044
2/6: 19,920
2/13: 20,871
2/20: 19,013
2/27: 17,673
Total downloads, as of last week: 243,659.
which is odd , they usually dont play alot of pearl jam unless it is a station you create with pearl jam as the lead artist, everytime it comes on at work i sit there and think this song is amazing one of my favorite PJ songs of all time and it is one of those conversion songs, what i mean by that is someone who doesnt know pearl jam or listen to them would instantly go who is this? i have to get this album, thats how good it is for me
I completely agree with you about this being a conversation song. It's a real good point.
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Also, for more people who know more about charts and whatnot, are trends typically volatile or straight? In other words, it seems like for the most part, on Top 100 (atleast), Just Breathe moved down fairly consisently, and now has begun to move back up, although slowly. My question is, can it be the case that a song moves up down up down.... then all of the sudden takes off moving down rapidly? I'd be curious to see how a song like Use Somebody did over time. How it entered the Top 100, and how it moved around once inside.
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Nowadays, however, the Hot 100 is very volatile in terms of up-and-down movement. Ironically, it's also a lot less interesting.
Hot 100 chart run: 99-92-88-89-91-94.
The way airplay is counted on the Hot 100 is weighted based on audience. If a song is played 20 times in a given week on a top 40 station with an average audience of 100,000, it gets credit for 2,000,000 "audience impressions." If the same song is played 20 times in a given week on a rock station with an average audience of 20,000, it gets credit for 400,000 audience impressions. Rock stations generally have much smaller audiences than top 40 stations, so rock airplay will only get you so far on the Hot 100. That's why crossover to top 40 stations is necessary for a song to be a big hit on the chart.
i've always wondered about whether it was spins or audience impressions that helped with the chart. because i would see a song have less spins than another song. but have more listeners.
Chart run on Hot Digital Songs: 193-130-111-98-91-101-113-108.
Downloads, week-by-week since 1/16:
1/16: 17,889
1/23: 17,546
1/30: 18,044
2/6: 19,920
2/13: 20,871
2/20: 19,013
2/27: 17,673
3/3: 17,962
Total downloads: 261,641.
I loved the song when I saw the making of Backspacer videoclip, and this is already a classic song.
Safe to say, this album would have moved atleast 100k more in the US at this point and time with a wider distribution other than Target...but there are other intangibles the band benefits from distributing the album solely through ITunes/Target.
I really, really want ATW to be the third single. I'm hoping that the Unthought Known rumors as a third single are false...it's a solid tune as well, just no way it does as well as ATW would.
But ATW has too weak vocals, it's not anthemtic enoiugh in the chorus and lacks any punch that the early stuff had. So, even though I think it's a nice song because I love PJ and love Eddie it would not appeal to a general audience. It's too much of a struggle vocal-vise and doesn't have that punch in the chorus.
If old Eddie would sing it or if Chris Martin (if that is his name) would have sung on it arranged as a Coldplay-song it would have been a hit. (this is not me badmouthing PJ and praising Coldplay... I just think that the vocals on the track and how it sounds won't have people turing the head when it is played on the radio)
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Hot 100 chart run: 99-92-88-89-91-94-92.
Hot 100 chart run: 99-92-88-89-91-94-92-94.
Keeps moving up in adult contemporary... up to 21.... can we say it's officially crossed-over?
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It crossed over a while ago. Eight weeks on the Hot 100. Six weeks and counting at #1 at Triple A.