"Just Breathe" DID IT

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  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    Wilds wrote:
    I realize we are talking big picture here in terms of promotion, but what I find a shame is the lack of presence from the band as Just Breathe takes off.

    It seems just as that song was released and as it has gained momentum Pearl Jam is totally gone.

    Now they are doing Europe and it seems highly likely that they are touring NA, and I'm sure once those things start to happen then it will be like they never left.

    It's just a part of me wishes they were doing the promotion circuit still. Getting the word out about Backspacer.

    (and yes I realize they featured a song on a tv show recently).

    I don't know I just don't feel the push for this album is close to what S/T was. And with Just Breathe doing so well I hope they don't miss an opportunity to reach out to more fans.

    I wonder if the promotional aspect of Backspacer is more to do with circumstance than anything else. Seeing how it was released in the fall, everything they tend to do surrounding a new album had to be compacted to fit before the holiday season. They generally lay low for most of Dec.-Jan. Due to this self-imposed timeframe, they decided to divide a certain amount of exposure across a few continents.

    The lack of visibility as Just Breathe climbs the charts right now might have to due with the band being hunkered down in the studio making new music (Yeh!). But like you stated, things will pick up as the year goes on and the touring resumes. Whether by design or not, this could work out to their benefit. For the self-titled, there was a huge push in the first month or so. Then, during the course of 2006, pearl jam underwent perhaps one of their largest-scale tours to date. And yet, promotionally speaking, by Aug '06 they were practically non-existent. Whereas 2010 could act as a second wind for Backspacer; a chance to, hopefully, gain momentum. I assume that is the big picture stuff you were referring to. For now, the video for Just Breathe is not doing a bad job as substitute.
  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    vedpunk wrote:
    That makes no sense because it is all relative to today's format, which is digital.

    Yes, it is all digital and all relative. But what I'm saying is this:

    The CD single has been replaced by the iTune download. For anyone that has Backspacer, it would make no sense to pay to download "Just Breathe". However, in 1998 most hardcore fans would go out and buy the "Wishlist" CD single even though they already owned Yield because it had a B-side.

    You could argue that the same condition exists today for every band and it's a level playing field, but I don't think that's true. While PJ does not have a huge audience, they have a more hardcore fanbase then almost any other band. Back in the CD single days they'd get a HUGE boost comparitively on the Hot 100 due to physical sales. They still get it for the first single, like the Fixer, when the album is not yet available. But they definitely don't get it for the second or third singles. Sure, they'll get downloads from casual rock fans but they won't have 50,000 of us lunatics going out and buying a piece of music that they already own.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    vedpunk wrote:
    That makes no sense because it is all relative to today's format, which is digital.

    Exactly. One digital download equals one CD single sold-- and there is a much greater volume of digital downloads than sales of CD singles in the pre-download era. I doubt that "Wishlist" sold close to 20,000 singles in any week, even its debut week. ("Just Breathe" has been close to 20,000 downloads for several weeks in a row.)

    "Wishlist" was the last second single from a Pearl Jam album to reach the Hot 100. It peaked at #47 in its second week on that chart. Believe it or not, sales had little impact on the song's run on the Hot 100 (other than the fact that you needed to have a commercially available single in order to be eligible to chart on the Hot 100).

    The single debuted at #47 on the Singles Sales chart, but fell out after just three weeks. "Wishlist" remained on the Hot 100 Airplay chart for 15 weeks-- 7 of which were before the single was commercially released--peaking at #52 in its 10th week and spending 11 weeks between #52 and #59. On the strength of the steady airplay, the song remained on the Hot 100 for 20 weeks.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,650
    Wilds wrote:
    I realize we are talking big picture here in terms of promotion, but what I find a shame is the lack of presence from the band as Just Breathe takes off.

    It seems just as that song was released and as it has gained momentum Pearl Jam is totally gone.

    Now they are doing Europe and it seems highly likely that they are touring NA, and I'm sure once those things start to happen then it will be like they never left.

    It's just a part of me wishes they were doing the promotion circuit still. Getting the word out about Backspacer.

    (and yes I realize they featured a song on a tv show recently).

    I don't know I just don't feel the push for this album is close to what S/T was. And with Just Breathe doing so well I hope they don't miss an opportunity to reach out to more fans.

    if they were to promote Just Breathe. Dancing with the Stars would be a good fit. But a lot of people won't like that. But Valentine's Day could help.
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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    igotid88 wrote:
    Wilds wrote:
    I realize we are talking big picture here in terms of promotion, but what I find a shame is the lack of presence from the band as Just Breathe takes off.

    It seems just as that song was released and as it has gained momentum Pearl Jam is totally gone.

    Now they are doing Europe and it seems highly likely that they are touring NA, and I'm sure once those things start to happen then it will be like they never left.

    It's just a part of me wishes they were doing the promotion circuit still. Getting the word out about Backspacer.

    (and yes I realize they featured a song on a tv show recently).

    I don't know I just don't feel the push for this album is close to what S/T was. And with Just Breathe doing so well I hope they don't miss an opportunity to reach out to more fans.

    if they were to promote Just Breathe. Dancing with the Stars would be a good fit. But a lot of people won't like that. But Valentine's Day could help.

    Yeah... would be nice to see a Valentine's Day push. Seems like a well placed Letterman would be a good idea at some point. Obviously probably needs to be when they are already planning to be in NYC.

    Also perhaps an interview might be nice. Talk some more about Backspacer and confirm a tour and the EP! :shock:
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    pleatherman wrote:
    Wilds wrote:
    I realize we are talking big picture here in terms of promotion, but what I find a shame is the lack of presence from the band as Just Breathe takes off.

    It seems just as that song was released and as it has gained momentum Pearl Jam is totally gone.

    Now they are doing Europe and it seems highly likely that they are touring NA, and I'm sure once those things start to happen then it will be like they never left.

    It's just a part of me wishes they were doing the promotion circuit still. Getting the word out about Backspacer.

    (and yes I realize they featured a song on a tv show recently).

    I don't know I just don't feel the push for this album is close to what S/T was. And with Just Breathe doing so well I hope they don't miss an opportunity to reach out to more fans.

    I wonder if the promotional aspect of Backspacer is more to do with circumstance than anything else. Seeing how it was released in the fall, everything they tend to do surrounding a new album had to be compacted to fit before the holiday season. They generally lay low for most of Dec.-Jan. Due to this self-imposed timeframe, they decided to divide a certain amount of exposure across a few continents.

    The lack of visibility as Just Breathe climbs the charts right now might have to due with the band being hunkered down in the studio making new music (Yeh!). But like you stated, things will pick up as the year goes on and the touring resumes. Whether by design or not, this could work out to their benefit. For the self-titled, there was a huge push in the first month or so. Then, during the course of 2006, pearl jam underwent perhaps one of their largest-scale tours to date. And yet, promotionally speaking, by Aug '06 they were practically non-existent. Whereas 2010 could act as a second wind for Backspacer; a chance to, hopefully, gain momentum. I assume that is the big picture stuff you were referring to. For now, the video for Just Breathe is not doing a bad job as substitute.


    Yeah I'm sure it is just a lull during the holidays. And if they are in fact touching up the leftovers from the backspacer sessions for an EP then Hell Yeah!

    I'll take 4 months of silence for that!
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    # 1 on the adult rock charts
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    FROM BILLBOARD:

    Hot 100»
    99 Last week's position
    2 Weeks on chart
    92 Peak


    Rock Songs»
    10 Last week's position
    15 Weeks on chart
    10 Peak


    Alternative Songs»
    10 Last week's position
    14 Weeks on chart
    7 Peak


    Canadian Hot 100»
    30 Last week's position
    10 Weeks on chart
    30 Peak


    Adult Pop Song
    36 Last week's position
    3 Weeks on chart
    34 Peak

    Pretty sweet.
  • OTOTO
    OTOTO New York, NY Posts: 190
    In my elevator at work this morning, the tv screen that has headlines, pop culture stuff, etc. had the Top 3 Adult Rock Songs and Just Breathe was #1.
    "You Can't be Neutral on a Moving Train"
  • cippociappo
    cippociappo Posts: 692
    Not bad! :)
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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    solat14 wrote:
    In my elevator at work this morning, the tv screen that has headlines, pop culture stuff, etc. had the Top 3 Adult Rock Songs and Just Breathe was #1.



    same building?

    # 1 on the adult rock charts
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • OTOTO
    OTOTO New York, NY Posts: 190
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    solat14 wrote:
    In my elevator at work this morning, the tv screen that has headlines, pop culture stuff, etc. had the Top 3 Adult Rock Songs and Just Breathe was #1.



    same building?

    # 1 on the adult rock charts


    Ha. I doubt it, unless you are at the WFC. A lot of buildings use that same media company for elevators though.
    "You Can't be Neutral on a Moving Train"
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    solat14 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    solat14 wrote:
    In my elevator at work this morning, the tv screen that has headlines, pop culture stuff, etc. had the Top 3 Adult Rock Songs and Just Breathe was #1.



    same building?

    # 1 on the adult rock charts


    Ha. I doubt it, unless you are at the WFC. A lot of buildings use that same media company for elevators though.


    not too far away

    i think its captivate
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  • OTOTO
    OTOTO New York, NY Posts: 190
    Yep. Captivate.
    "You Can't be Neutral on a Moving Train"
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    solat14 wrote:
    Yep. Captivate.


    2 weeks ago it was 3

    last week 2



    and finally today # 1
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  • Ahr Mann
    Ahr Mann Posts: 141
    Billboard.com really needs to update their Pearl Jam pictures. Or is it still 1992?
  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    What is the Triple A chart? Is that adult rock? I've always seen this but do not know what it means.
    "Darkness comes in waves, tell me, why invite it to stay?"
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    T-Bone 82 wrote:
    What is the Triple A chart? Is that adult rock? I've always seen this but do not know what it means.

    Adult Album Alternative. It's a pretty small panel of stations. It's a format that doesn't exist in most markets.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Wilds wrote:
    I realize we are talking big picture here in terms of promotion, but what I find a shame is the lack of presence from the band as Just Breathe takes off.

    It seems just as that song was released and as it has gained momentum Pearl Jam is totally gone.

    Now they are doing Europe and it seems highly likely that they are touring NA, and I'm sure once those things start to happen then it will be like they never left.

    It's just a part of me wishes they were doing the promotion circuit still. Getting the word out about Backspacer.

    (and yes I realize they featured a song on a tv show recently).

    I don't know I just don't feel the push for this album is close to what S/T was. And with Just Breathe doing so well I hope they don't miss an opportunity to reach out to more fans.

    yup. its a huge mystery to me. especially considering all their interviews last summer talking about wanting to expand their audience a bit
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    "Just Breathe" will move up from #98 (19,920 downloads) to #91 (20,871 downloads) on Hot Digital Songs (up 5 percent). Last five weeks: 193-130-111-98-91. The song has been downloaded a total of 206,973 times.

    Eddie Vedder's version of "My City In Ruins" leapfrogs "Just Breathe" and debuts on Hot Digital Songs at #60 with 29,575 downloads.

    "Just Breathe" is still short of the Hot 100 Airplay top 75 (up from #152 to #139, including recurrents), but it gained another 600,000 audience impressions this week.

    No word yet on the Hot 100.
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