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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,933
    "Just Breathe" holds at #15 on Billboard's Rock Songs chart for the week ending January 16, 2010, but continues to gain airplay.

    The Rock Songs chart demonstrates just how pathetically calcified and sclerotic rock radio is. "Just Breathe" and Slipknot's "Snuff" are the "newest" songs in the top 15, and both have already been on the chart for 12 weeks. The songs above those two have been on the chart for 18, 21, 20, 22, 17, 15, 13, 21, 29, 26, 28, 31 and 24 weeks (the last one is "The Fixer"). There are two other songs in the top 20 that have been on the chart for 31 weeks!

    Some of this is attributable to the holidays, when stations generally freeze their playlists, but that doesn't account for all of it. In the top 25, there are only two songs that have been on the chart less than 11 weeks, and none has been on for less than 5 weeks (the "newbie" is "Your Decision" by Alice In Chains).

    The bottom line is that your local commercial rock radio station, as it tells you how cool and cutting-edge it is, is deathly afraid of playing anything new. They give their listeners no credit, assuming that they will reach for the tuner as soon as something unfamiliar is played. It's a sad state of affairs.
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  • T-Bone 82T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    It really is a sad state of affairs. Many of the songs on that chart are total garbage. How many times can you play Shinedown and Linkin Park? It makes me want to swerve my car off the side of the road.

    I am glad, however, that PJ continues to get airplay with both the Fixer and Just Breathe. I think they're both great songs. And satellite radio is a good alternative to all the garbage out there, though I'm kind of tired of paying for it. I don't listen to it often enough to make it worth the money.
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  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    This is why I just listen to my iPod in the car.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    I was in a friends car 3 days ago and we were going to have dinner and before i enter teh store i heard just breathe and when i left the store 3 hours later i hear it again on the same radio station. they play the song a lot in Toronto.
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,933
    By the way, I should note that the songs that have been on Rock Songs for 31 weeks are even older than they appear. The Rock Songs chart was only started 31 weeks ago. Before that, Billboard had separate Modern Rock Tracks and Mainstream Rock Tracks charts. So "Use Somebody," for example is actually much older than 31 weeks.
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  • LedbetterdaysLedbetterdays Round Rock, Texas Posts: 556
    Just Breathe is doing well at radio. It is #4 on Triple A stations (Adult Alternative Albums), #12 on Alternative, #44 Active Rock, #24 Mainstream Rock. It continues to gain spins on most of these formats as of Jan 7th. It should at least encourage them to put out a 3rd single.
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  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Just Breathe is doing well at radio. It is #4 on Triple A stations (Adult Alternative Albums), #12 on Alternative, #44 Active Rock, #24 Mainstream Rock. It continues to gain spins on most of these formats as of Jan 7th. It should at least encourage them to put out a 3rd single.
    ...which should be "Amongst the Waves". ;)
  • thefin190thefin190 Posts: 918
    tcaporale wrote:
    Just Breathe is doing well at radio. It is #4 on Triple A stations (Adult Alternative Albums), #12 on Alternative, #44 Active Rock, #24 Mainstream Rock. It continues to gain spins on most of these formats as of Jan 7th. It should at least encourage them to put out a 3rd single.
    ...which should be "Amongst the Waves". ;)
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,543
    98 on Itunes singles chart. Maybe had to do with that twitter promotion.
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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,365
    I guess it has officially "crossed over" now.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,590
    I guess it has officially "crossed over" now.
    http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbe ... 8127.story


    nice!
    just above lady antebellum.....WHO THE HELL IS THAT?
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  • T-Bone 82T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    Just saw this too...yeah, who the hell is Lady Antebellum? And what's the deal with all these "Lady's"? Lady Gaga, Lady Sovereign, now this Lady? Is this title necessary?

    I want to be called 'Lord T-Bone' from now on. That's the male version of 'lady' right? Lady and Lord? I don't know. It's all ridiculous.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,933
    I guess it has officially "crossed over" now.
    http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbe ... 8127.story

    It's getting there, but not quite there. "Adult Pop Songs" is a pretty limited panel of radio stations. Real crossover would be cracking the Pop Songs chart or, especially, the Hot 100.
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  • HatrietHatriet Posts: 80
    Just Breathe is awesome end of.
    Harriet. :)
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,933
    "Just Breathe" jumps from #15 to #11 on Billboard's Rock Songs chart. It is #39 on Adult Pop Songs.

    It also moves from #193 to #130 on Hot Digital Songs, and is up from #6 to #3 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart. That means it could crack the Hot 100 as soon as next week. Airplay impressions were up by 1.6 million this week.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,590
    BF25394 wrote:
    "Just Breathe" jumps from #15 to #11 on Billboard's Rock Songs chart. It is #39 on Adult Pop Songs.

    It also moves from #193 to #130 on Hot Digital Songs, and is up from #6 to #3 on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart. That means it could crack the Hot 100 as soon as next week. Airplay impressions were up by 1.6 million this week.

    nice...
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already. I'll bet by the end of this it will rival most first singles, if not top em all.
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already. I'll bet by the end of this it will rival most first singles, if not top em all.

    i'll admit it ........i was wrong

    surprised by how well the song is doing, and how well backspacer is sticking around in general.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I totally had a hunch about this song. I'm sure there's posts of mine in the beginning of this thread that prove so.


    A few more weeks and Backspacer will be on top again.

    The band is on a roll and already working on new material. Hold on to your 10c memberships! 8-)


    I think Amongst the Waves will be the next single, and probably go immediately to pop stations. Watch out!
  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already. I'll bet by the end of this it will rival most first singles, if not top em all.
    Well, as far as second singles go, it'll take quite a lot for it to beat "Even Flow" and "Daughter".
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    tcaporale wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already. I'll bet by the end of this it will rival most first singles, if not top em all.
    Well, as far as second singles go, it'll take quite a lot for it to beat "Even Flow" and "Daughter".
    I don't think Even Flow or Daughter were ever pop hits. I'm quite positive Even Flow has NEVER been played on a pop station.. in the rock world they are on top, but the rock world is just a small percentage of the main picture of popular music.

    Last Kiss pretty much did better than any other Pearl Jam song also.
  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    tcaporale wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already. I'll bet by the end of this it will rival most first singles, if not top em all.
    Well, as far as second singles go, it'll take quite a lot for it to beat "Even Flow" and "Daughter".
    I don't think Even Flow or Daughter were ever pop hits. I'm quite positive Even Flow has NEVER been played on a pop station.. in the rock world they are on top, but the rock world is just a small percentage of the main picture of popular music.

    Last Kiss pretty much did better than any other Pearl Jam song also.
    Maybe, but then again, I think there has to be a balance between the pop and rock aspects of their music. No matter how played out "Just Breathe" may become, I doubt it'll ever be considered one of the band's signature songs. Maybe in terms of chart success it'll surpass them, but I think you have to look at its popularity over time as well, and a ballad from the band's ninth studio album is unlikely to have the same staying power as their earlier material.

    That's not to say I don't wish the song success. I actually heard it on the radio while I was getting my hair cut today.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    tcaporale wrote:
    Maybe, but then again, I think there has to be a balance between the pop and rock aspects of their music. No matter how played out "Just Breathe" may become, I doubt it'll ever be considered one of the band's signature songs. Maybe in terms of chart success it'll surpass them, but I think you have to look at its popularity over time as well, and a ballad from the band's ninth studio album is unlikely to have the same staying power as their earlier material.

    That's not to say I don't wish the song success. I actually heard it on the radio while I was getting my hair cut today.
    No way will it ever be better than Even Flow.. Daughter, probably. I think Just Breathe is a better song than Daughter.. sure you can't tag it, but to me it has more substance.. and I've been a diehard since Daughter was released.. not that it makes my opinion any more potent, I just think Just Breathe is a fucking amazing song.
  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    tcaporale wrote:
    Maybe, but then again, I think there has to be a balance between the pop and rock aspects of their music. No matter how played out "Just Breathe" may become, I doubt it'll ever be considered one of the band's signature songs. Maybe in terms of chart success it'll surpass them, but I think you have to look at its popularity over time as well, and a ballad from the band's ninth studio album is unlikely to have the same staying power as their earlier material.

    That's not to say I don't wish the song success. I actually heard it on the radio while I was getting my hair cut today.
    No way will it ever be better than Even Flow.. Daughter, probably. I think Just Breathe is a better song than Daughter.. sure you can't tag it, but to me it has more substance.. and I've been a diehard since Daughter was released.. not that it makes my opinion any more potent, I just think Just Breathe is a fucking amazing song.
    Well, that's fine, but I'm speaking more in terms of the general public.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    tcaporale wrote:
    tcaporale wrote:
    Maybe, but then again, I think there has to be a balance between the pop and rock aspects of their music. No matter how played out "Just Breathe" may become, I doubt it'll ever be considered one of the band's signature songs. Maybe in terms of chart success it'll surpass them, but I think you have to look at its popularity over time as well, and a ballad from the band's ninth studio album is unlikely to have the same staying power as their earlier material.

    That's not to say I don't wish the song success. I actually heard it on the radio while I was getting my hair cut today.
    No way will it ever be better than Even Flow.. Daughter, probably. I think Just Breathe is a better song than Daughter.. sure you can't tag it, but to me it has more substance.. and I've been a diehard since Daughter was released.. not that it makes my opinion any more potent, I just think Just Breathe is a fucking amazing song.
    Well, that's fine, but I'm speaking more in terms of the general public.
    If thats the case, so far its Last Kiss. ;)
  • mr.pinkmr.pink Posts: 362
    I'm amazed that it still gets play on the rock radio station here in Oregon. I wonder if its just the PJ fandom that this particular station has or if other rock/ alternative stations are playing it too. To be honest, this song isn't that great on the radio. Its kind of a let down, because its sooo soft. I like the song, but its my least favorite on BS, usually skip it. If its for the "pop" stations, thats makes more sense, but BS has so many more songs for rock radio. Why don't they release one???
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  • wnh1977wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 650
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already.

    I'm the one who started this thread, so I guess I better step up and admit I was wrong... well kind of wrong :? I would've predicted "Just Breathe" disappearing from radio long before now... I do admit that. It hasn't become a huge hit, but it has slowly crept up the rock charts and has had pretty good staying power. Some people attribute this to the very stale programming of commercial radio. Whatever the case, I'm happy that the song has had modest success so far. Yes, I would call the success of "Just Breathe" modest at this point, not huge. We're definitely not to the territory of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Green Day) or "Use Somebody" (Kings of Leon). It is a success as far as second singles from Pearl Jam go, which isn't saying much.

    What the song hasn't done (yet) is make Backspacer sales blow up. I think Backspacer sits at #80 on the latest Billboard charts with sales still under 500,000. Maybe without "Just Breathe", Backspacer would've completely stalled and dropped out of the top 200? I don't know. If the song does continue to climb up the charts and somehow manages to get Backspacer to platinum status (1 million sold), I will definitely belly up and eat my crow. Still don't see this happening.
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    wnh1977 wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already.

    I'm the one who started this thread, so I guess I better step up and admit I was wrong... well kind of wrong :? I would've predicted "Just Breathe" disappearing from radio long before now... I do admit that. It hasn't become a huge hit, but it has slowly crept up the rock charts and has had pretty good staying power. Some people attribute this to the very stale programming of commercial radio. Whatever the case, I'm happy that the song has had modest success so far. Yes, I would call the success of "Just Breathe" modest at this point, not huge. We're definitely not to the territory of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Green Day) or "Use Somebody" (Kings of Leon). It is a success as far as second singles from Pearl Jam go, which isn't saying much.

    What the song hasn't done (yet) is make Backspacer sales blow up. I think Backspacer sits at #80 on the latest Billboard charts with sales still under 500,000. Maybe without "Just Breathe", Backspacer would've completely stalled and dropped out of the top 200? I don't know. If the song does continue to climb up the charts and somehow manages to get Backspacer to platinum status (1 million sold), I will definitely belly up and eat my crow. Still don't see this happening.

    Fair enough, I don't disagree that it is not yet a "huge" hit. But, like you said, it has slowly crept up the charts. And I do think that will continue. IMHO this will end up being their top single, second only to Last Kiss.... It just makes sense, seeing in a way the two songs are somewhat similar. I think once it gathers even more cross-over success you're likely to see a more dramatic increase in sales.

    Bottom line, this song brings in a whole new crowd that would otherwise not hear PJ. It brings in teeny boppers, chicks, and older folks. That's why I've believed it would be successful all along. But, you are right, can't really say whether it will yet.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    inlet13 wrote:
    wnh1977 wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Seriously not to be a d_ck, but I think a few of you peoples should admit that you were wrong about this song....

    it continues to move up the charts... it's probably the most successful second single the band has ever released already.

    I'm the one who started this thread, so I guess I better step up and admit I was wrong... well kind of wrong :? I would've predicted "Just Breathe" disappearing from radio long before now... I do admit that. It hasn't become a huge hit, but it has slowly crept up the rock charts and has had pretty good staying power. Some people attribute this to the very stale programming of commercial radio. Whatever the case, I'm happy that the song has had modest success so far. Yes, I would call the success of "Just Breathe" modest at this point, not huge. We're definitely not to the territory of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" (Green Day) or "Use Somebody" (Kings of Leon). It is a success as far as second singles from Pearl Jam go, which isn't saying much.

    What the song hasn't done (yet) is make Backspacer sales blow up. I think Backspacer sits at #80 on the latest Billboard charts with sales still under 500,000. Maybe without "Just Breathe", Backspacer would've completely stalled and dropped out of the top 200? I don't know. If the song does continue to climb up the charts and somehow manages to get Backspacer to platinum status (1 million sold), I will definitely belly up and eat my crow. Still don't see this happening.

    Fair enough, I don't disagree that it is not yet a "huge" hit. But, like you said, it has slowly crept up the charts. And I do think that will continue. IMHO this will end up being their top single, second only to Last Kiss.... It just makes sense, seeing in a way the two songs are somewhat similar. I think once it gathers even more cross-over success you're likely to see a more dramatic increase in sales.

    Bottom line, this song brings in a whole new crowd that would otherwise not hear PJ. It brings in teeny boppers, chicks, and older folks. That's why I've believed it would be successful all along. But, you are right, can't really say whether it will yet.

    All of these are good and fair points. And I have thought all along that Just Breathe was the best choice as a second single. I also don't believe it will do what KOL or Green Day did, but it is still possible. In fact I think Unthougth Known also has a chance to cross over if released.

    Now with all that said, and on the topic of 'admitting when you are wrong', If you are going to call people out, then perhaps you should admit you were wrong about what caused the dramatic spike over the Black Friday week.

    It was the sale price, not alone, but as the most significant driving factor. ;)
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,933
    As the person who made the initial comparisons to "Use Somebody" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams," I would like to clarify that the jury is still out. The crossover of "Just Breathe" is just beginning. It may be strangled in its crib, or it may break out and become a pop hit. My point all along was that, of all the songs on "Backspacer," "Just Breathe" had the best chance to be a crossover hit, and crossover hits are what broaden sales. If sales are going to increase, in the vein of Kings of Leon and Green Day, it's not going to happen when the song is Bubbling Under the Hot 100, it's going to happen if the song ends up in the top 10. Time will tell.
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