The change in Eddie's voice

PJamGrungeFan
PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
edited December 2009 in The Porch
So, as we know, when you compare Eddie's voice from 91-94 era to the years of 96 to whenever....it's just not the same. Still good, but not the same.

It came to my attention when listening to No Code earlier. "how can this be the same guy who sang Spin the Black Circle...or Jeremy, or Blood."

was his voice just totally blown out from previous years so he adapted a new singing style? was it smoking? drinking?
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    hangin out with neil young in 95 caused the late 90's change. Smoking and aging caused the 2000's change.
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,941
    smoking (BIG PART)
    drinking
    drugs (lets be honest here) in moderation???

    and the biggest reason: getting older, your voice just gets deeper and you cannot do what you could when you were younger

    coupled with over 20 years of singing, it is bound to sound different
  • bettielee
    bettielee Posts: 74
    I still think he has the most amazing voice in all of rockdom.
  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    'tis a shame he didn't take care of his voice over the years..
  • craigb
    craigb Posts: 806
    bettielee wrote:
    I still think he has the most amazing voice in all of rockdom.

    Amen. :thumbup:
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    PJamGrungeFan wrote:
    'tis a shame he didn't take care of his voice over the years..

    ::shrug::, I don't think a lot of songs from No Code onward would have worked with the Morrison Howl.
  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    True, but that howl was a Vedder trademark

    this performance makes me cringe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0fFOfoPrsk&fmt=18
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    PJamGrungeFan wrote:
    True, but that howl was a Vedder trademark

    this performance makes me cringe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0fFOfoPrsk&fmt=18

    good point, but that could bring up another reason. That the howl was such a trademark that it was becoming cliched and it was time to move on and disassociate himself from becoming pigeonheld to that sound.
  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    Eh, I'd rather him be pigeonheld to that signature Vedder howl then to what he does now (overly shaky vocals)

    Do you think he still has the ability to sing like he use to if he really tried? it'd be great for nostalgic purposes to hear Jeremy sung like it was in the early days! :mrgreen:
  • Aaron 23
    Aaron 23 Allen, TX Posts: 543
    Hmm...am I the only one that prefers his voice now to the way it used to be?

    I wasn't a huge fan of his tone, before...seemed his higher notes (live) were all very rough and less controlled (IMO) when compared to the howls he puts out now.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    PJamGrungeFan wrote:
    Do you think he still has the ability to sing like he use to if he really tried? it'd be great for nostalgic purposes to hear Jeremy sung like it was in the early days! :mrgreen:

    In the studio where has the opportunity to do multiple takes and then rest the vox afterwards.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    Aaron 23 wrote:
    Hmm...am I the only one that prefers his voice now to the way it used to be?

    I wasn't a huge fan of his tone, before...seemed his higher notes (live) were all very rough and less controlled (IMO) when compared to the howls he puts out now.

    I agree, the howl was one dimensional. His new style gives more of a dynamic to his singing.
  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    Aaron 23 wrote:
    seemed his higher notes (live) were all very rough and less controlled (IMO) when compared to the howls he puts out now.
    eh? he had his off nights (like he does today) but for the most part, he could bark those notes out with purpose.
  • doompony
    doompony Wellington, NZ Posts: 4,501
    i think he sounds farking amazing these days.. dunno what the crazies are on about. 4 words. love reign o'er me.
  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    doompony wrote:
    i think he sounds farking amazing these days.. dunno what the crazies are on about. 4 words. love reign o'er me.
    Yes, that performance of LROM and TRM was unreal.

    Now If only he could sing his own songs with that much power..
  • Jennytree
    Jennytree Posts: 5,340
    Does anyone sound the same after 20-odd years?
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  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    I wasn't comparing his voice from 89 - 2009 :roll:

    I was comparing it from 92/93 to the late 90's (96-99). believe it or not, yes, some singers maintain their singing style over the course of 4 years
  • The_Giant_Midget
    The_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 600
    i think part of it also was that he was just younger and crazier. now he realizes that he can sing instead of screaming like a mad man. with that being said i still like his early days voice better, especially with ten, vs, and vitalogy songs they perform live today. but the newer songs are more for his voice now anyway, screaming wouldnt fit and it just wouldnt be the same.
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  • PJamGrungeFan
    PJamGrungeFan Posts: 289
    The_Giant_Midget wrote:
    i think part of it also was that he was just younger and crazier. now he realizes that he can sing instead of screaming like a mad man. with that being said i still like his early days voice better, especially with ten, vs, and vitalogy songs they perform live today. but the newer songs are more for his voice now anyway, screaming wouldnt fit and it just wouldnt be the same.
    Well said ;)
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,096
    Jennytree wrote:
    Does anyone sound the same after 20-odd years?

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