Coincidence?

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Has anyone here read Paul Auster's book 'True Tales of American Life'? It's a collection of true stories sent in to him at his request by the general public and it's full of some amazing stories of synchronicity.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/de ... on.society

    '...This is probably a book best dipped into: a bathroom book, although one with real guts. Many tales turn on coincidence, which doubtless reflects Auster's original request for stories 'that defied our expectations about the world, anecdotes that revealed the mysterious and unknowable forces at work in our lives', as well as his own prejudices (he is, after all, the author of a novel called The Music of Chance).'
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Here's another one: Yesterday afternoon I was reading about this province here in China. I just happened to read that a city south of here called Wenzhou was the native home of thousands of immigrants who had migrated to Italy, France and Holland. Then in the evening I was having a meal at a restaurant and without any prompting from me somebody just happened to mention that Wenzhou was well known for being the place from where thousands of immigrants had migrated to France and Italy.

    I've lived here two years and I've never heard about this before, then I hear about it twice in the same day from two completely different sources.
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    He's *STALKING* you lol :P
  • I guess synchronicity is the right word, I was gonna say "subconscious" however.

    Your subconscious mind was aware that your friend was contacting you; therefore you thought of him...when you checked your Facebook, you then became consciously aware of this, as there was a message from your friend.

    It makes sense, I mean think about it....you haven't seen the guy in 8 years....or thought about him in 4 years...why the hell would you just randomly think of him? You wouldn't...so, it isn't random, it is synchronicity but it's also your all-knowing subsconscious mind.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    This is interesting:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_Enigma

    23 Enigma

    The 23 Enigma refers to the belief that most incidents and events are directly connected to the number 23, some permutation of the number 23, or a number related to the number 23.

    Origins

    Robert Anton Wilson cites William S. Burroughs as being the first person to believe in the 23 enigma:[1][2][3] Wilson, in an article in Fortean Times, related the following story:

    I first heard of the 23 enigma from William S Burroughs, author of Naked Lunch, Nova Express, etc. According to Burroughs, he had known a certain Captain Clark, around 1960 in Tangier, who once bragged that he had been sailing 23 years without an accident. That very day, Clark’s ship had an accident that killed him and everybody else aboard. Furthermore, while Burroughs was thinking about this crude example of the irony of the gods that evening, a bulletin on the radio announced the crash of an airliner in Florida, USA. The pilot was another captain Clark and the flight was Flight 23.[4]

    Discordianism

    The Principia Discordia states that "All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropritate to 5"[5]—this is referred to as the Law of Fives. The 23 Enigma is regarded as a corollary of this law. It can be seen in Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea's The Illuminatus! Trilogy (therein called the "23/17 phenomenon"), Wilson's Cosmic Trigger I: The Final Secret of the Illuminati (therein called "The Law of fives" and "The 23 Enigma"), Arthur Koestler's Challenge of Chance, as well as the Principia Discordia. In these works, 23 is considered lucky, unlucky, sinister, strange, or sacred to the goddess Eris or to the unholy gods of the Cthulhu Mythos.

    As with most numerological claims, the enigma can be viewed as an example of apophenia, selection bias, and confirmation bias. In interviews, Wilson acknowledged the self-fulfilling nature of the enigma, implying that the real value of the Laws of Fives and Twenty-threes lies in their demonstration of the mind's power to perceive "truth" in nearly anything.

    When you start looking for something you tend to find it. This wouldn't be like Simon Newcomb, the great astronomer, who wrote a mathematical proof that heavier than air flight was impossible and published it a day before the Wright brothers took off. I'm talking about people who found a pattern in nature and wrote several scientific articles and got it accepted by a large part of the scientific community before it was generally agreed that there was no such pattern, it was all just selective perception."[6]

    In the Illuminatus! Trilogy, he expresses the same view: that one can find a numerological significance to anything, provided "sufficient cleverness."


    http://www.studio23.com/cms/index.php?o ... &Itemid=32

    TheSynchronicity of 23:

    Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes.
    The earth rotates completely every 23 hours, 56 minutes.
    The axis of the plane Earth is 23.5 degrees.
    The human Biorhythm cycle is 23 days.
    The pattern of DNA shows irregular connections at every 23rd section.
    Humans have 23 vertebra running down the main part of their spines.
    Blood circulates the body on average every 23 seconds.
    There are 23 letters in the Latin alphabet.
    The number of joints in the human arm is 23.
    23 is the first prime number in which both digits are prime and add up to another prime.
    On average, every 23rd wave crashing to shore is twice as large as the average wave.
    The Harmonic Convergence occurs every 23,000 years.
    Geosynchronous orbit occurs at 23,000 miles above Earth's surface.
    September 23rd is the Fall equinox.
    Standard TCP/IP port for Telnet is 23.
    The number 23, written in base 3, is 212 (2+1+2=5)
    23+23+23=WWW, the World Wide Web.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    spat wrote:
    There is a name for when things like that happen but I cant think what its called.

    syncronicity


    With one breath, with one flow
    You will know
    Synchronicity

    A sleep trance, a dream dance
    A shared romance
    Synchronicity

    A connecting principle
    Linked to the invisible
    Almost imperceptible
    Something inexpressible
    Science insusceptible
    Logic so inflexible
    Causally connectible
    Yet nothing is invincible

    If we share this nightmare
    Then we can dream
    Spiritus mundi

    If you act, as you think
    The missing link
    Synchronicity

    We know you, they know me
    Extrasensory
    Synchronicity

    A star fall, a phone call
    It joins all
    Synchronicity

    It's so deep, it's so wide
    Your inside
    Synchronicity

    Effect without a cause
    Sub-atomic laws, scientific pause
    Synchronicity...



    Part 2

    Another suburban family morning
    Grandmother screaming at the wall
    We have to shout above the din of our Rice Crispies
    We can't hear anything at all
    Mother chants her litany of boredom and frustration
    But we know all her suicides are fake
    Daddy only stares into the distance
    There's only so much more that he can take
    Many miles away
    Something crawls from the slime
    At the bottom of a dark Scottish lake

    Another industrial ugly morning
    The factory belches filth into the sky
    He walks unhindered through the picket lines today
    He doesn't think to wonder why
    The secretaries pout and preen like
    cheap tarts in a red light street
    But all he ever thinks to do is watch
    And every single meeting with his so-called superior
    Is a humiliating kick in the crotch
    Many miles away
    Something crawls to the surface
    Of a dark Scottish lake

    Another working day has ended
    Only the rush hour hell to face
    Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes
    Contestants in a suicidal race
    Daddy grips the wheel and stares alone into the distance
    He knows that something somewhere has to break
    He sees the family home now looming in the headlights
    The pain upstairs that makes his eyeballs ache
    Many miles away
    There's a shadow on the door
    Of a cottage on the shore
    Of a dark Scottish lake
    Many miles away, many miles away



    :)

    great song but they're called Lochs in Scotland. ;)

    this is why Sting is banned from coming here... :thumbup:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • WOW! Same thing happened to me on Monday. Well it hadn't been years since I saw or heard from my friend Tanya, but almost a year anyway, and literally within the hour, I went on facebook and there was a message from her. Spooky.
  • I do this same thing with tv shows. I can think of an episode of an older show that I'll catch at night when I'm laying in bed. A day might go by and then the episode that I thought about and haven't seen in several years will come on.

    The first couple of times I thought it was coincidence. After this many times, I'm starting to believe I'm a genius. Also, almost everytime I look at my watch, the digital part is on 00 seconds. Just randomly looking at my watch, it might be 12:17 pm 00 seconds. Several times through the day I do that.

    My brain is in sync with the earth.
  • I do this same thing with tv shows. I can think of an episode of an older show that I'll catch at night when I'm laying in bed. A day might go by and then the episode that I thought about and haven't seen in several years will come on.

    The first couple of times I thought it was coincidence. After this many times, I'm starting to believe I'm a genius. Also, almost everytime I look at my watch, the digital part is on 00 seconds. Just randomly looking at my watch, it might be 12:17 pm 00 seconds. Several times through the day I do that.

    My brain is in sync with the earth.


    Very interesting. I have done stuff like this a lot too. For example, my birthday is July 22nd or 7/22 and often throughout the day I will glance at the time and it will be 7:22. Another one is 11:11, I have heard that specific time has spiritual connotation and I notice that time a lot.

    Also, I will watch a movie from my dvd collection and then like within a day or two it will play on one of the movie channels on tv.

    These are just two examples, there are lots more.

    I believe human beings are all-knowing and all one, and we all have the ability to be in tune with the universe, etc. You just have to believe it and feel it.
  • I do this same thing with tv shows. I can think of an episode of an older show that I'll catch at night when I'm laying in bed. A day might go by and then the episode that I thought about and haven't seen in several years will come on.

    The first couple of times I thought it was coincidence. After this many times, I'm starting to believe I'm a genius. Also, almost everytime I look at my watch, the digital part is on 00 seconds. Just randomly looking at my watch, it might be 12:17 pm 00 seconds. Several times through the day I do that.

    My brain is in sync with the earth.


    Very interesting. I have done stuff like this a lot too. For example, my birthday is July 22nd or 7/22 and often throughout the day I will glance at the time and it will be 7:22. Another one is 11:11, I have heard that specific time has spiritual connotation and I notice that time a lot.

    Also, I will watch a movie from my dvd collection and then like within a day or two it will play on one of the movie channels on tv.

    These are just two examples, there are lots more.

    I believe human beings are all-knowing and all one, and we all have the ability to be in tune with the universe, etc. You just have to believe it and feel it.

    That's it. When we let things happen naturally, we're capable of a lot of interesting things. When we force it is when we fuck it all up.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Also, almost everytime I look at my watch, the digital part is on 00 seconds. Just randomly looking at my watch, it might be 12:17 pm 00 seconds. Several times through the day I do that.

    My brain is in sync with the earth.

    I do that too. Usually when I look at my watch it's 13 minutes past the hour.

    Often now when I wake up I lay there and try to work out what time it is before I check the clock, just to see how close I can get. On a few occasions I've hit the exact minute.