What's PJ's worst show ever?
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Steveo wrote:This however I thought was a GREAT show.
after bushleaguer, things got intense.
from what i recall it was Bushleaguer - Know Your Rights - RITFW
I was a great show up until this point, which turns it into a great boot.
And a nice version of Patriot too.
Your dead on , it was great for us but ithe fans were hard on the band , not me , it was there 1st show in NY since 9/11 & quite a few new yorkers got offended!Chef Rah
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BeerBaron wrote:I would love to hear Evacaution. I have only heard it half of one time.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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thunderDAN wrote:LOL says the guy that went to the show from Cincinnati.
I love it when someone will say a show wasn't so good and immediatly you get someone that went to the show to come and tell you how great the energy was like they have some obligation to stick up for the show because they went. I'm not singling out cincybearcat- everyone does it. It's just funny
No Way! I was there and the energy was amazing! Everyone was standing and signing along to every song- I kid you not
I agree 100%
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.09/02/00 09/05/00
04/25/03 05/02/03 5/3/03 6/24/03 6/28/03 7/5/03 7/6/03 7/11/03 7/12/03 7/14/03
09/28/04 09/29/04 10/01/04 10/02/04
09/28/05 09/30/05 10/03/05
5/24/06 5/25/06 5/27/06 5/28/06 5/30/06 6/01/06 6/03/06 6/23/06 6/24/06 7/22/06 7/23/06
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Cincy 06---bad show, bad poster...I think Klausen had polio when he devised that mess.*Marker in the Sand Fanclub * HNIC
Philly- 2005, 2013, 2016, 2024
Camden 2000, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2022, 2023
Philly Spectrum 2009 x4 - We closed that MFER Down Proper
Baltimore- 2024
Pittsburgh- 2025
DC- 2006, 2008
New York- 2008, 2010
Boston - Fenway 2016 (night 2) , 2024 (night1)
East Rutherford, New Jersey- 2006
Chicago - Lollapalooza 2007
Seattle- Gorge 2005
EV Solo- DC x2, Baltimore x2 , Newark NJ x2, Tower Theater x2
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Alpine Valley - I think it was in 2000. Outdoor venue. Wisconsin. 30 degrees outside. Yes it certainly was the Ice Bowl and the guys were brave to finish the show out, but all the crowd could focus on was how darn cold they were!!!WI '98, WI '99 (EV), WI '00, Chgo '00, MO '00, Champaign '03, Chgo '03, WI '03, IN '03, MI '04, Chgo '06:N1 & 2, WI '06, Chgo '07, Chgo '08 (EV:N1), Chgo '09:N1 & 2, Chgo '11 (EV:N1), WI '11:N1 & 2, Philly '12, Wrigley '13, Pitt '13, Buff '13, Detroit '14, MKE '14, Wrigley '16: N1 & N2, Seattle '18 N2, Wrigley '18: N1 & N2, Fenway '18 N1, STL '22, St Paul '23 N2, Chgo '23: N1 & N2, Wrigley '24 N1 & 20
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mdg164 wrote:I agree 100%
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.
90% setlist?????
If they only played songs from Rearviewmirror but played them flawlessly and with tremendous emotion and energy then I would consider it a great show.
Setlists filled with rare songs are overrated for someone who can't afford the time and money to follow the band around.
If I only see PJ 2 or 3 times on there tour I want to hear all of my favorites not just rare songs I've never heard before, that aren't all that great.10/31/2000 (****)
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)0 -
behindtheeyes wrote:I'm going to say Hershey '03 (of the shows that I've been to.) It was an add-on show and was the night after their marathon Boston show (45+ songs?) The venue sucked and the band just seemed tired and not into it.
On the other hand, it's where 'mosquito bites' was born, so I guess it had it's moments.Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...0 -
upina2001 wrote:This was my first ever PJ show. It was just ok. One of the least energetic shows Ive heard from my nearly 700 live boot collection. ONLY 105 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!
09/22/96 - John F. Savage Hall: Toledo, OH
attendance: 9,000
set: Sometimes, Hail Hail, Animal, In My Tree, Spin the Black Circle, Corduroy, Last Exit, Better Man, Lukin, Not for You, Jeremy, Even Flow, Mankind, Daughter/(I Believe in Miracles), Habit, I Got Shit, Alive, Blood
enc 1: Go, Who You Are, Rearviewmirror, Leaving Here
enc 2: Indifference
notes: Ed totally botches the start of 'I Got Shit.' He tells everyone that has to go to school the next day that he'll write them excuse notes (so they can continue to play). A stunning closing with 'Indifference' with the house lights up. A solid show before a smallish crowd.
I guess it's better than this:
02/21/92 - International II: Manchester, England
notes: The evening of this show, PJ's tour bus was held up by thieves.
hey, this was my first show too! but i dug it. maybe its just the whole experience that i dug more then the show. long story short, didnt have tickets, drove from cincy anyway. scalpers were out of their minds. got bummed, wound up side stage for face value when they released tickets a few hours b4 the show. very cool.Peace, Love.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
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mdg164 wrote:Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to.0
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behindtheeyes wrote:I'm going to say Hershey '03 (of the shows that I've been to.) It was an add-on show and was the night after their marathon Boston show (45+ songs?) The venue sucked and the band just seemed tired and not into it.
On the other hand, it's where 'mosquito bites' was born, so I guess it had it's moments.0 -
restlesssoul wrote:there was an 03 boot i was listening to recently, but i cant recall which. they sounded like they were just going through the motions. i very rarely, if ever, feel the vibe i was getting from that boot.....pretty useless without the name i know, but i think the worst show they ever played is hidden somewher in that 2003 tour.
Birmingham 03? Weather sucked, Ed was sick, greatest hits, less than 2 hours.Up here so high I start to shake, Up here so high the sky I scrape, I've no fear but for falling down, So look out below I am falling now, Falling down,...not staying down, Could’ve held me up, rather tear me down, Drown in the river0 -
although short, not a bad setlist at allManofthepresenttense wrote:this show seems pretty lame on paper, i remember reading it was extremly cold and the band had no energy, pretty standard setlist...
birmingham 2003
Set 1 Go, Save You, Spin The Black Circle, Even Flow, Daughter, Better Man, Not For You, Elderly Woman Behind The Counter In A Small Town, Love Boat Captain, Corduroy, You Are, Thumbing My Way, Given To Fly, Wishlist, Animal, Do The Evolution
Encore 1 Last Kiss, Black, Alive
Encore 2 Soldier Of Love, Leaving Here, Yellow Ledbetter
only 22 songs"Close but no sitar." ~ EV0 -
A few people have mentioned it already, but easily Hershey 03 was the least favorite of all the shows I've seen over the years. Awful crowd. Weird seating arangement made me feel like we were fenced in. And then the VIPs who wore badges and had free reign to do whatever they wanted and walked the aisles and stood in front of people's seats. PJ was great that night, but I'll never forget that crowd experience and it still has left a sour taste in my mouth.- Busted down the pretext
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
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cincybearcat wrote:Cincy 06 was a terrific show with great energy.
People complain about it because they only care about setlists.
Wow, I was there. I don't know how anyone could say that wasn't a good show.
It's actually one of the boots I listen to frequently, I enjoyed the setlist and there are some pretty funny moments with Ed talking shit.Detroit 03, Toronto 03, Toledo 04, Kitchener 05, London 05, Cleveland 06, Detroit 06, Cincinnati 06, Chicago 07, Mansfield 08, EV Chicago 08, East Troy 11, Pensacola 12, EV Jax 12, Wrigley 13, Pittsburgh 13, Dallas 13, OKC 13, Detroit 14, Ft Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jax 16, Sea 180 -
Boston '04 Vote for change.
I have been to 20+ shows, and this one ranks dead last (by far). Maybe it was just my seat location (club seats straight back under the overhang) but that night I experienced the worst sound/acoustics and it was so disappointing. Ed and Mike could barely be heard...all I heard was Stone, Matt and Jeff. It was really off, I've been to many venues with varying seat locations and never experienced anything like it. Others had similar experiences...one guy said something about not having the normal sound crew that night...don't know if there is any truth to that.
I brought my future wife to that show (it was her first PJ show)...I naturally set high expectations and we were extremely disappointed. I had to convince her for a year that that boston show was not indicative of the experience and was an anomoly. Luckily, she's been to like 8 shows with me since and they have all been incredible and she is completely hooked now.0 -
thunderDAN wrote:LOL says the guy that went to the show from Cincinnati.
I love it when someone will say a show wasn't so good and immediatly you get someone that went to the show to come and tell you how great the energy was like they have some obligation to stick up for the show because they went. I'm not singling out cincybearcat- everyone does it. It's just funny
No Way! I was there and the energy was amazing! Everyone was standing and signing along to every song- I kid you not
2 words...Screw you. I've been to 21 shows, in 3 countries...it was my 3rd favorite show probably because of the energy. It was different. But, you won;t listen anyhow.hippiemom = goodness0 -
mdg164 wrote:I agree 100%
It had to be the best show because "I was there" or "It was in the city near where I live where my favorite sports team plays." There is little difference from night to night, city to city. Granted sometimes there is a noticible difference. Like it was easy to see how much the Cincy crowd sucked compared to the other shows I have gone to. In general, what makes a good concert is about 90% setlist, 9% band energy, 1% crowd energy.
Every PJ show is great, so when I talk about a bad concert, you have to take it in context.
My reasoning has no bearing on it being in Cincy at all. In fact, I live in Iowa now. I believe there was a different energy that night.hippiemom = goodness0 -
the wolf wrote:hey, this was my first show too! but i dug it. maybe its just the whole experience that i dug more then the show. long story short, didnt have tickets, drove from cincy anyway. scalpers were out of their minds. got bummed, wound up side stage for face value when they released tickets a few hours b4 the show. very cool.
Hahaha...it was my 1st show too, so I can't be objective about that 1. I had a blast.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Now that I think about it, I have to mention the show they opened for U2 on 12/9/06. DOn't get me wrong. They were awesome. I was fired up, man. And so were many people in the crowd. But of course there were the more white bread segment of U2 fans who sat quietly, talked during PJ's set, ate pretzels, and ignored my band. It was odd feeling that vibe while Pearl Jam was rocking so hard.
That said, the vast majority of fans there were great. It was just a weird vibe to feel that opening band thing.San Diego 10/25/00, Mountain View 6/1/03, Santa Barbara 10/28/03, Northwest School 3/18/05, San Diego 7/7/06, Los Angeles 7/9/06, 7/10/06, Honolulu (U2) 12/9/06, Santa Barbara (EV) 4/10/08, Los Angeles (EV) 4/12/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield 6/28/08, VH1 Rock Honors The Who 7/12/08, Seattle 9/21/09, Universal City 9/30/09, 10/1/09, 10/6/09, 10/7/09, San Diego 10/9/09, Los Angeles (EV) 7/8/11, Santa Barbara (EV) 7/9/11, Chicago 7/19/13, San Diego 11/21/13, Los Angeles 11/23/13, 11/24/13, Oakland 11/26/13, Chicago 8/22/16, Missoula 8/13/18, Boston 9/2/18, Los Angeles 2/25/22 (EV), San Diego 5/3/22, Los Angeles 5/6/22, 5/7/22, Imola 6/25/22, Los Angeles 5/21/24, [London 6/29/24], [Boston 9/15/24]0 -
St. Paul night 1.
First show with Tom Petty. Only show of the six w/o an encore I think.
Hartford '06 and Cinncy '06 were soft too.tacos0
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