McCready's quote in Spin concerns me....

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  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Johnny Sitar wrote:

    I agree, and have stated many times myself, that the whole "sellout" thing is non-existent. It is their livelihood. If they "sold out", then I sell out every day I come to work. All of us do.

    Their promotion of Backspacer doesn't bother me at all either.

    it better not, you have BONO as your avatar. :D

    BONO??? It's Hugh Dillon!!!
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Johnny Sitar wrote:
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Johnny Sitar wrote:

    I agree, and have stated many times myself, that the whole "sellout" thing is non-existent. It is their livelihood. If they "sold out", then I sell out every day I come to work. All of us do.

    Their promotion of Backspacer doesn't bother me at all either.

    it better not, you have BONO as your avatar. :D

    BONO??? It's Hugh Dillon!!!

    oops, the glasses and pose looks like bono to me.
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  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    Johnny Sitar wrote:
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Johnny Sitar wrote:

    I agree, and have stated many times myself, that the whole "sellout" thing is non-existent. It is their livelihood. If they "sold out", then I sell out every day I come to work. All of us do.

    Their promotion of Backspacer doesn't bother me at all either.

    it better not, you have BONO as your avatar. :D

    BONO??? It's Hugh Dillon!!!

    bullshit. that's fuckin' Bono.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • kataractkid
    kataractkid Posts: 57
    What do you think I've been saying about Backspacer??? Mike just proved it right there.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,164
    does it really matter? nobody buys records anymore
    and, they have been going on tv to promote new records for years
    none of that matters as long as they keep writing good music and put on kick ass shows-the rest is just window dressing IMHO

    when they start playing crappy shows, then I will be concerned
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    What we have learned is this:

    Pearl Jam was happy screwing over Epic when Pearl Jam was getting guaranteed money and preaching about the art of music, but now they are going to become radio friendly when it is their butts on the line and not Epic's.
  • flyinwhole313
    flyinwhole313 Posts: 1,651
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    What we have learned is this:

    Pearl Jam was happy screwing over Epic when Pearl Jam was getting guaranteed money and preaching about the art of music, but now they are going to become radio friendly when it is their butts on the line and not Epic's.

    I wonder how many people who will read this agree, but won't say so... :lol::lol:
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    What we have learned is this:

    Pearl Jam was happy screwing over Epic when Pearl Jam was getting guaranteed money and preaching about the art of music, but now they are going to become radio friendly when it is their butts on the line and not Epic's.

    This theory should appeal to many! Screw over the corporate rock label, then cash in like a mom and pop store.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Deliberately writing radio songs is for Bon Jovi and Nickelback. Fuck PJ if they ever do that.
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    long red wrote:

    bullshit. that's fuckin' Bono.

    :roll:
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    What we have learned is this:

    Pearl Jam was happy screwing over Epic when Pearl Jam was getting guaranteed money and preaching about the art of music, but now they are going to become radio friendly when it is their butts on the line and not Epic's.

    This theory should appeal to many! Screw over the corporate rock label, then cash in like a mom and pop store.

    PBM


    agreed.
    quite honestly, it swounds like classic pj...and i thought that is what many are lamenting? ;)
    look - i agreed again! :wtf:
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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    decides2dream wrote:
    agreed.
    quite honestly, it swounds like classic pj...and i thought that is what many are lamenting? ;)
    look - i agreed again! :wtf:

    It's bizarro day...or, I've learned to think more clearly. Either way, it's freaking me out.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    decides2dream wrote:
    agreed.
    quite honestly, it swounds like classic pj...and i thought that is what many are lamenting? ;)
    look - i agreed again! :wtf:

    It's bizarro day...or, I've learned to think more clearly. Either way, it's freaking me out.

    PBM



    happy to oblige.
    :mrgreen:

    i have always greatly respected pearl jam and their actions and stances...but i've never put them up on a pedestal, nor did i ever for one moment thought they didn't want to make $$$ and all that encompasses. yes, in the past they did many things to sabotage their careers, but only to the point to keep it manageable in a way that was comfortable to them. let's face it, they won the lottery right outta the gate. that's a lot to take in. so NONE of their behaviors/changes over the years at all surprise me. however, i've always looked at them realistically. i also never turned them into hereos. i appreciate that they use their fame and fortune to back up ideals they believe in, but all the rest....that's their own business. also too, i was not a fan from day one...and even if i were, i was not a young teen, but in my early 20s when they first came on the music scene, so i think less apt to make hereos out of rock stas by then.


    and hey, i'll go with thinking more clearly...;)
    haha.
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  • U R A Crazy Breed
    U R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    the fire is gone....the best is behind us....they are just conformists now...what is it with some guys...they have a kid and feel the need to turn into a big pussy.....now it's radio friendly fare and political conformity....makes me sad :cry: ...i still love the music...but that fire they once had seems to have fizzled out!!...next thing you know Ed will be saying he's a republican...not that democrats are any better.

    and no this isn't off topic because this is the part of the Int. that concerns me!
  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    the fire is gone....the best is behind us

    Are you talking about our lives too? Because a lot of your post applies to me. :)

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • dbodner
    dbodner Posts: 60
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    What we have learned is this:

    Pearl Jam was happy screwing over Epic when Pearl Jam was getting guaranteed money and preaching about the art of music, but now they are going to become radio friendly when it is their butts on the line and not Epic's.

    I'm not sure I would 100% agree with this, unless you believe the Ticketmaster boycott was to screw over epic as well.

    Does the quote concern me? Sure. In the vein that I hope they continue to make good music, not in that I dislike them if they're popular. It concerns me, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily wrong. If they take one song per album and try to make it radio friendly to try to get an influx of fans, while giving us 10-12 really good old-time pearl jam songs, I don't see a problem with that. If they turn into nickelback, then there's a problem. But I don't see that happening.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    they have a kid and feel the need to turn into a big pussy

    having kids changes you mate. good or bad.
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  • U R A Crazy Breed
    U R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    2-feign-reluctance wrote:
    they have a kid and feel the need to turn into a big pussy

    having kids changes you mate. good or bad.


    i have a daughter too...it didn't make me want to be a conformist!!! in fact it made me even more concerned with this fucked up planet!!
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    do you honestly believe pearl jam is conformist?! :wtf:
    seriously?


    have they learned to fight their battles, to compromise, to work towards their own 'greater good'.....i think so.
    i also think, pearl jam has always chosen to do things on THEIR terms, and they still ARE. the fact that you or anyone may disagree/dislike it, well, i am sure they aware that will happen too, and apparently, they are a-ok with it. they have to do what feels right for them. i agree. i expect nothing less of anyone.

    also, as to the fire being gone and th best behind them, while i understand that thinking, i do have to disagree. perhaps their music that will stand the test of time Is in their past....but that in no way insinuates that they have no fire, and that they are on the downward slope. i am not too much younger than them and while sure...my wild days may be a bit behind me, i also still manage to do things that thrill and excite me, and hell NO....i do not believe my life is downhill from here in out. it's all perspective. i see it as they have GROWN, they have matured...it's a new and different chapter in their lives. thy are no longer angry young men, but mature men, with a lot of love and happiness in their lives...and enjoying that. i say, good for them. it's what we all strive for.
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  • U R A Crazy Breed
    U R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    decides2dream wrote:
    do you honestly believe pearl jam is conformist?! :wtf:
    seriously?


    have they learned to fight their battles, to compromise, to work towards their own 'greater good'.....i think so.
    i also think, pearl jam has always chosen to do things on THEIR terms, and they still ARE. the fact that you or anyone may disagree/dislike it, well, i am sure they aware that will happen too, and apparently, they are a-ok with it. they have to do what feels right for them. i agree. i expect nothing less of anyone.

    also, as to the fire being gone and th best behind them, while i understand that thinking, i do have to disagree. perhaps their music that will stand the test of time Is in their past....but that in no way insinuates that they have no fire, and that they are on the downward slope. i am not too much younger than them and while sure...my wild days may be a bit behind me, i also still manage to do things that thrill and excite me, and hell NO....i do not believe my life is downhill from here in out. it's all perspective. i see it as they have GROWN, they have matured...it's a new and different chapter in their lives. thy are no longer angry young men, but mature men, with a lot of love and happiness in their lives...and enjoying that. i say, good for them. it's what we all strive for.

    do you think the minutemen of mass. didn't love their families? do you think they didn't want to be happy and live in peace? of course they did...but a man has to do what a man has to do..which is fight the good fight...PJ used to do that...now it's like they just wanna lay down and be happy when the world is even more fucked up now than it was in the '90s!!!that is the fire i was talking about.

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