listening to my backspacer vinyl

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  • Rollingstone123
    Rollingstone123 Posts: 222
    no vinyl in NYC, and the cd came early.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,287
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    My setup is excellent. See my holiday singles transfers.

    are they up via torrent or something we can set up, trade style? :)
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    demetrios wrote:
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    My setup is excellent. See my holiday singles transfers.

    are they up via torrent or something we can set up, trade style? :)

    Sure, they're right here...

    http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14938
  • I_GOT_no_IDea
    I_GOT_no_IDea Posts: 653
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    pearljam7 wrote:
    I think BoB and the band know better than that. Could it be when you listened to the record originally your vinyl listening setup just ain't that good?

    My setup is excellent. See my holiday singles transfers.

    I transferred the BS vinyl to my computer and the waveform looks like a solid brick wall, just like the CD. No dynamic range at all. Basically they took the CD and made vinyl out of it.

    I also compared the sound closely and the vinyl sounds just like the CD only the high end is a bit rolled off.

    BS on vinyl is a scam. Sorry if you don't believe me!
    that sucks dude - doesn't a separate guy do the vinyl processing to b o'b? or is it just a problem with the master mixes.
    Sydney 3 1998; Brisbane 1 2003; Sydney 1/2/3 2003; Brisbane 1/2 2006; Sydney 1/2/3 2006; Melbourne 1/2 2006; Adelaide 2009; EV Solo Sydney 1 2011.
  • happy2behere
    happy2behere Posts: 148
    EasyE wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    I don't have the greatest setup, but it's good enough. Plenty of my other vinyl sounds great on it. I wouldn't bother pointing it out if I thought it was my system.

    Force of Nature and Amongst the Waves sound very muddy. The more bare rockers(1st 4 tunes, Supersonic) sound pretty good and the the acoustic numbers, as well, but not as good as any of their other records. I think the only song that sounds REALLY good is Unthought Known.

    John Golden mastered the vinyl, Bob Ludwig the cd.

    I'm gonna compare to the cd when I get ahold of it.

    Thanks. A good response. I think the CD master-to-vinyl issue has been settled. They were mastered separately.

    not exactly settled. ludwig would be cutting the vinyl if he had a lathe. golden could still be using the CD master as his source.
  • I_GOT_no_IDea
    I_GOT_no_IDea Posts: 653
    happy2behere wrote:
    EasyE wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    I don't have the greatest setup, but it's good enough. Plenty of my other vinyl sounds great on it. I wouldn't bother pointing it out if I thought it was my system.

    Force of Nature and Amongst the Waves sound very muddy. The more bare rockers(1st 4 tunes, Supersonic) sound pretty good and the the acoustic numbers, as well, but not as good as any of their other records. I think the only song that sounds REALLY good is Unthought Known.

    John Golden mastered the vinyl, Bob Ludwig the cd.

    I'm gonna compare to the cd when I get ahold of it.

    Thanks. A good response. I think the CD master-to-vinyl issue has been settled. They were mastered separately.

    not exactly settled. ludwig would be cutting the vinyl if he had a lathe. golden could still be using the CD master as his source.
    so it sounds like cd master may have been used for vinyl mastering - that's possible yeah?
    Sydney 3 1998; Brisbane 1 2003; Sydney 1/2/3 2003; Brisbane 1/2 2006; Sydney 1/2/3 2006; Melbourne 1/2 2006; Adelaide 2009; EV Solo Sydney 1 2011.
  • EasyE
    EasyE Posts: 66
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    pearljam7 wrote:
    I think BoB and the band know better than that. Could it be when you listened to the record originally your vinyl listening setup just ain't that good?

    My setup is excellent. See my holiday singles transfers.

    I transferred the BS vinyl to my computer and the waveform looks like a solid brick wall, just like the CD. No dynamic range at all. Basically they took the CD and made vinyl out of it.

    I also compared the sound closely and the vinyl sounds just like the CD only the high end is a bit rolled off.

    BS on vinyl is a scam. Sorry if you don't believe me!

    Evacuation Rules may be right here. The LP version of Backspacer lacks dynamic range on many tracks.

    The record simply did not come to life on my turntable as have many other albums.

    I'd stop short of calling it a scam. It still sounded pretty good, the album art is unique and the etchings are just cool.

    I'd really enjoy a full magazine story on the entire recording process for the Backpspacer CD and LP. In the long run, when buying newly pressed vinyl, I'd like know up front that efforts were made to make the LP sound great.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    Just got my record near Philly, via the Pony Express. Packaging is awesome! Can't wait to listen tonight (don't have to be distracted by Phillies, who clinched last night).
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila,  PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25

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