Are the town hall protestors the mainstream view of America?

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Americans being angry about how their country is being run is ALWAYS a mainstream view. Sadly, the whole process is anything but threatening to the people in power, as it's always (at best) only one half of the people at any given time who are pissed enough to protest and make some noise. The other half of the country is the protesting half's greatest neutralizer, not the politicians themselves. The fact is, both groups are right-- the protesting half is right because things need to change, and the other half is right to wonder, "where the hell were these people when THEIR president was in office, or THEIR party had control of the Congress?" You do see shifts in which parties control Washington in 4 to 8 year intervals. What you don't see, when you view things objectively, is any kind of progress being made when either party has the power to make it happen. It isn't a two party system. It's a one party system of jerk-offs who have no problem spending us into oblivion on nothing but worthless causes, and the middle class ALWAYS foots the bill, while the poor continues to suffer.

Left wing, right wing. It's still the same old bird.

There needs to be a recognition across the board that all of our elected officials are equally to blame for our situation. We need the entire country up in arms, or just the opposite-- an entire country that simply says, FUCK THIS, and stops going to work altogether for a month, or more if needed.

Maybe most importantly: the rule of law needs to be respected and enforced against our elected officials. Complete disregard for the Constitution in the lawmaking process is treasonous, and should be treated as so.

inmytree wrote:

are these old yellers the "mainstream"...I say no...

at least I hope not...their blind anger and lack of solutions is scary...

know1 wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Americans being angry about how their country is being run is ALWAYS a mainstream view. Sadly, the whole process is anything but threatening to the people in power, as it's always (at best) only one half of the people at any given time who are pissed enough to protest and make some noise. The other half of the country is the protesting half's greatest neutralizer, not the politicians themselves. The fact is, both groups are right-- the protesting half is right because things need to change, and the other half is right to wonder, "where the hell were these people when THEIR president was in office, or THEIR party had control of the Congress?" You do see shifts in which parties control Washington in 4 to 8 year intervals. What you don't see, when you view things objectively, is any kind of progress being made when either party has
the power to make it happen. It isn't a two party system. It's a one party system of jerk-offs who have no problem spending us into oblivion on nothing but worthless causes, and the middle class ALWAYS foots the bill, while the poor continues to suffer.
Left wing, right wing. It's still the same old bird.
There needs to be a recognition across the board that all of our elected officials are equally to blame for our situation. We need the entire country up in arms, or just the opposite-- an entire country that simply says, FUCK THIS, and stops going to work altogether for a month, or more if needed.

Maybe most importantly: the rule of law needs to be respected and enforced against our elected officials. Complete disregard for the Constitution in the lawmaking process is treasonous, and should be treated as so.

aerial wrote:

It's was not all just about health care that inspired over a Million people to show up in Wash.

aerial wrote:

Were do you get your 70,000 count from?

aerial wrote:

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I marched in Wash. and I agree with you. That is why I was there along with many I met There. It's was not all just about health care that inspired over a Million people to show up in Wash. It was more to show congress we are paying attention! The simple plan is to vote out congress. New web site..to try and help make it happen.....goooh.com....
Is this mainstream?
For every one person in that march there were a hundred that could not make it.

aerial wrote:

Congress has mistaken average Americans as ignorant.

soulsinging wrote:

aerial wrote:

Congress has mistaken average Americans as ignorant. They know we put our trust in them and they took advantage of that. I am talking about corruption in the White House. I am looking for honest ethical people to run for congress. I have faith there are still ethical people in America.. JasunMark before you say it for the hundredth time ..........your never ending Bush crap.....I was against Bush also and if I had found a March when he was in the White House I would have been there...OK?

Well congress is right. But it's not just Americans, the average human is pretty dim and ignorant. No biggie. As to corruption, the problem is that our culture is addicted to tabloid journalism (fox and msnbc being 2 great examples) that exists to do nothing more than dig up whatever dirt can be found about anyone and smear the hell out of them for ratings. And most ethical people aren't willing to have their private lives violated like that, so they stay out. Think of what the swift boat people did to Kerry... a man who has a purple heart for being wounded in the defense of his country! What sane person would go into a job like that, knowing that even their better traits will be twisted and abused, their name and loved ones dragged through the muck, and every mistake they've ever made held out as certain proof that they are a degenerate, evil human being? Why would anyone want to put up with that?

Flutter Girl wrote:

Jasunmark wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

I am a radical commie socialist.

Um... ok, would you like to explain how that's even possible? Isn't that like being short and tall at the same time?

socialism is like communism-lite..tho if someone is communist, why bother saying socialist too

inmytree - I've read the bill. It's essentially an expansion of medicaid to cover anyone not covered, instead of just the poor...but anyone can plainly see how well medicaid is doing. They are going to add another amendment to the bill that would add taxes to the pricier private health plans (the ones that are around $250 and up), making them unaffordable to everyone but the rich. It seems they are hell bent on getting us all on plans that only offer generic treatments and medicine, which is inferior to what the best private plans pay for...I don't understand the point in that one...

What they need to do is break the bill down. Vote on just one amendment at a time. All the bad amendments that they have tried to sneak in there in the hopes it would go unnoticed would never pass. The good stuff would have been passed already. And it would severely cut down on the arguing and altering of the rest of the amendments to make them acceptable to both sides. But, you know, God forbid they do anything intelligent in D.C.

And one of the biggest issues is rather simple to rectify, without suggesting tax cuts...Forget a public option...instead, open the state borders. That will drive down the cost.