The End

PearlJam24
PearlJam24 Posts: 340
edited May 2010 in Words and Music...Communication
I just read along the lyrics while the song was playing and I started balling...fuck that is some deep shit.
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    I got the CD in the mail from 10C yesterday and after reading the words to The End, got totally depressed. Sounds like Ed's really ill. Not trying to be Debbie Downer here but read the words to The End.

    It also seems like one of the themes of this CD art is memories..... band member memories, and how the guys are all so connected to one another. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm concerned. The idea of dying too soon and leaving people behind seems to wind through a couple other songs too.

    When you think about how they structured this tour and the Target thing, it all seems to fall into place.
    I really hope I'm wrong.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    weenie wrote:
    I got the CD in the mail from 10C yesterday and after reading the words to The End, got totally depressed. Sounds like Ed's really ill. Not trying to be Debbie Downer here but read the words to The End.

    It also seems like one of the themes of this CD art is memories..... band member memories, and how the guys are all so connected to one another. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm concerned. The idea of dying too soon and leaving people behind seems to wind through a couple other songs too.

    When you think about how they structured this tour and the Target thing, it all seems to fall into place.
    I really hope I'm wrong.
    Somebody on here had a good perspective- "the sickness in the bones" is the need to get out and tour- an addiction to entertaining. I'm choosing to believe this cause I couldn't accept anything else
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    pandora wrote:
    weenie wrote:
    I got the CD in the mail from 10C yesterday and after reading the words to The End, got totally depressed. Sounds like Ed's really ill. Not trying to be Debbie Downer here but read the words to The End.

    It also seems like one of the themes of this CD art is memories..... band member memories, and how the guys are all so connected to one another. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm concerned. The idea of dying too soon and leaving people behind seems to wind through a couple other songs too.

    When you think about how they structured this tour and the Target thing, it all seems to fall into place.
    I really hope I'm wrong.
    Somebody on here had a good perspective- "the sickness in the bones" is the need to get out and tour- an addiction to entertaining. I'm choosing to believe this cause I couldn't accept anything else

    I'm going to put all my energy into that thought. Thanks.
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I think we should be careful about believing every song Ed writes in the first person is about himself. Otherwise, we would have spent the past 15 years wondering why his parents were calling him "daughter."
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    Spot on, thanks. :D

    I got really creeped out and depressed about a couple of similar references in one of the other songs. It hit me like a ton of bricks when I read the words...... It was "Paul is dead" all over again....... :?
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    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    PearlJam24 wrote:
    I just read along the lyrics while the song was playing and I started balling...fuck that is some deep shit.


    +1
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,975
    PearlJam24 wrote:
    I just read along the lyrics while the song was playing and I started balling...fuck that is some deep shit.




    :o :shock: :o
    balling?!


    i truly hope, instead...you were bawling..........;)
    :lol:


    :mrgreen:



    oh, and i have to agree.....the 'sickness in my bones' is his utter need to tour/make music....and all other references to death, i simply think....he has children now, he has a woman he utterly LOVES, it's just so obvious. when you have that much love, that much wonderful, it is alll so natural to worry about losing it, leaving it behind, providing for them all, etc. that and sure, hitting those 40s....you definitely think of your own mortality a lot.
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  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    decides2dream wrote:
    PearlJam24 wrote:
    I just read along the lyrics while the song was playing and I started balling...fuck that is some deep shit.




    :o :shock: :o
    balling?!


    i truly hope, instead...you were bawling..........;)
    :lol:


    :mrgreen:



    oh, and i have to agree.....the 'sickness in my bones' is his utter need to tour/make music....and all other references to death, i simply think....he has children now, he has a woman he utterly LOVES, it's just so obvious. when you have that much love, that much wonderful, it is alll so natural to worry about losing it, leaving it behind, providing for them all, etc. that and sure, hitting those 40s....you definitely think of your own mortality a lot.

    I agree that it felt it was about someone thinking of his mortality and that you start to think that when you have a realization about something you love. I was at the Philly Tower Theater show when Eddie dedicated Forever Young to his daughter as it was her birthday. It was a very beautiful moment so I suppose I also imagined Ed speaking in the first person with this song. Though it is important to not take everything literally as one post suggested. But the vibe of the sond is very touching nonetheless.
  • fireladie
    fireladie Posts: 36
    That song and some of the others are still making me cry when I listen, awesome.

    Whilst there could be a scary sense of Eddie feeling the end coming, and its hard to untangle his stuff from my stuff & whats just a story from an imagined perspective, I figure he's at that place where you realise you've done a lot of living & a lot of losing, time rushes by faster & faster, as he said at the o2 " love & life its all f*cking precious". Its a sort of raw bitter sweet love for life, pain n' all. Amongst the waves says it all as well, about toughening up as you get older despite everything.

    its blown me away. x
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    The more I listen to this CD: really listen to the music and read the words to the songs, the more blown away I am by this album. And I continue to be TOTALLY in awe of Ed's genius and his ability to describe life and feelings so brilliantly. I also don't think there's a better song/music writing team than Ed and Stone anywhere today. Stone's penchant for melody is astounding. I'm also having a hard time understanding why people on this board aren't really digging this CD. But I guess each to his own.

    I think The End, is the perfect cap off to this record. And after listening to it more, I feel differently about my first interpretation of it. I don't feel Ed's referring to his need for touring or playing though as others here do, I think it goes a helluva lot deeper than than.

    Whatever it means to Ed, it's fucking brilliant and can't wait to hear songs from this record live. :D:D:D
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  • CorduroyGal
    CorduroyGal Posts: 41
    I felt this song has a lot of personal meaning to me, and of course the band and Eddie. I also was thinking in terms of how 80% of the time I see PJ in concert they finish with Yellow Ledbetter, and maybe this is a new beginning for their "encore presentation". I thought it was a beautiful song, and we all have our own interpretations of Backspacer. The End can be taken in so many ways. Maybe starting a new beginning of something and appreciating what you have and the family/friends and those who love you.
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    I find this song and the abrupt way it ends to be pretty intense too.
    It's a bit deep, maybe too deep for a lot of people, which might explain why people are not digging it.
    I like music that take a while to get into. Stuff that's too accessible tends to be too shallow, and have no lasting interest.
    It does make me wonder if Ed has a serious illness. OK, so it does not have to about him, but it's a strong song.
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  • My Grievance
    My Grievance Posts: 21
    i Cant listen to this song without crying, especially the second verse. If PJ plays this in L.A i'm gonna have to man up and cry in front of my best friend and my dad.
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  • Stumptown Rocker
    Stumptown Rocker Posts: 35
    It's heavy... That sickness in your bones could be a lot of things for a lot of people. I think that might be the idea. Jesus there are some heavy songs here. As has been stated soundtrack to life. One full listen through with the lyrics and it all sets into place. This album is special.
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  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,389
    I can't hear the music at work unfortunately. I hope my CD isn't ruined. However, after reading the lyrics I thought it was a soldier's dying wish to communicate.
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  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    Stumptown Rocker wrote:
    It's heavy... That sickness in your bones could be a lot of things for a lot of people. I think that might be the idea. Jesus there are some heavy songs here. As has been stated soundtrack to life. One full listen through with the lyrics and it all sets into place. This album is special.

    The more I listen to it, the more brilliant I realize the words and the music are. I'm really impressed with what they've done..... :D
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    And in the End, the love you take is equal to the love you make, Beatles, Abbey Road. That was from their last record technically.
  • acrossssSsssshittt
    acrossssSsssshittt Posts: 1,014
    Let us all please just pray... that things are ok... cuz at least for me, there's little else...
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    acrossoceans wrote:
    Let us all please just pray... that things are ok... cuz at least for me, there's little else...

    I feel you partner. Stay safe. :)
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • PeArLgOoNeR
    PeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,255
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I think we should be careful about believing every song Ed writes in the first person is about himself. Otherwise, we would have spent the past 15 years wondering why his parents were calling him "daughter."


    Agreed! I don't think this is about Ed..

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