Where is PJ's creativity

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  • i shit and i stink
    i shit and i stink Posts: 1,122
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Na, i think self titled was pearl jam trying to hard to sound like pearl jam, they were forcing themselves to sound like that.

    :roll:
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  • fisttothejaw
    fisttothejaw Posts: 234
    HeidiJam wrote:
    Na, i think self titled was pearl jam trying to hard to sound like pearl jam, they were forcing themselves to sound like that.

    wow. it sounds like you have your feet dug in on this one.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    i can barley finish amongst the waves and force of nature, as for supersonic, why use a riff you have already used (mankind) I think they spent 2 weeks on this album.
  • sillymike
    sillymike Posts: 22
    Love the new album. It will grow on you. Just curious as to why no mention of BOOM anywhere on the cd. Obviously he is not an official member. I am not sure he even plays on this album. Anyone know? It does sound like he is playing all over it though.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    HeidiJam wrote:
    i can barley finish amongst the waves and force of nature

    Yeah I can't either. Same with Unthought Known. I just can't bring myself to care. And I can't bring myself to look up tabs to the songs. I'm not the biggest Avocado fan but I sure as hell was obsessed with it the first month it came out. I was tired of Backspacer like 3 days before it was released!

    But as I keep saying, seeing the songs live might change my opinion.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I think it is more of an Art/Music thing. Two people can look at the same peice of art- one see's something beautiful, and the other sees a bunch of paint thrown on a canvas. What is creative to one person is not to everyone. There are people the will not like this albulm, same as there are some who don't like Ten and No Code and Riot Act. Nothing wrong with any of that.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    I agree with that. I still think they are taking some steps back though.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    HeidiJam wrote:
    I agree with that. I still think they are taking some steps back though.

    Even though I've been critical of Backspacer, I wouldn't call it a step back. It's like a step sideways...if that makes any sense.
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  • JordyWordy
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    sillymike wrote:
    Love the new album. It will grow on you. Just curious as to why no mention of BOOM anywhere on the cd. Obviously he is not an official member. I am not sure he even plays on this album. Anyone know? It does sound like he is playing all over it though.

    Brendan O'Brien played all the keys, piano, etc, and he arranged the string & horn sections. Boom doesnt appear on the album. Boom's still playing live with them, so let's hope he does the new songs justice.



    I always assumed the reason Riot Act is not played live much is because the songs just don't translate well live (generally). Most of the stuff on there is very downbeat. I LOVE that album, (the "novel" comment earlier is about as perfect a review of it there is), but i admit myself that live performances of most Riot Act songs are fairly flat. (You Are, Bushleaguer, Save You, Cant Keep, Arc and All Or None are astonishingly good live, the rest of the album...not so much). So i guess my point is, i dont need "atmosphere" on Backspacer if the songs are strong enough on their own, which they are.

    Binaural & Riot Act saw the band experiment with their recording sound (droppin BO'B, using binaural etc)...Backspacer doesnt experiment with atmospheres or acoustics, but it does sound fantastic. And there's tons of subtle backing intrumentation, just like on Yield.

    I said earlier in the thread that i dont see many similarities between Backspacer and Avocado: the one huge similarity i do see is that the Backspacer songs will sound fucking great live...if performances so far are anything to go by.
  • Black10
    Black10 Posts: 160
    HeidiJam wrote:
    these lyrics are not even close to their best.

    Have you even read the lyrics to this album?...they are incredible. Or do you just say they aren't good because this album is boring to you?
  • ejb770
    ejb770 Posts: 88
    Avacado is one of my faves! This one I'm not sure about yet but I think it will grow on me. Love Amongst the Waves and Unthought Known
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    yes i have read the lyrics, otherwise iwould not have made the comment. Some of the songs have great lyrics, but to put this above vitalogy, no code, and riot act is laughable.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,890
    HeidiJam wrote:
    yes i have read the lyrics, otherwise iwould not have made the comment. Some of the songs have great lyrics, but to put this above vitalogy, no code, and riot act is laughable.

    actually what is "laughable" is your opinion

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  • dimitrispearljam
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    Bitcing is an art too now days
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Bitcing is an art too now days
    Spelling is also an art these days :P
  • TT8270
    TT8270 Posts: 429
    Yep. I totally agree with the person who started this thread. Backspacer is lame. Only "Amongst The Waves" is a classic. Why don't Eddie let Stone write more for PJ?
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    With most pj albums ill have my favorite songs and over time ill end up loving the whole album and not skipping a song. I am already getting tired of Backspacer and seem to be skipping most of the songs. This should have been a double disk with S/T.
  • MrMerkinball
    MrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    HeidiJam wrote:
    With most pj albums ill have my favorite songs and over time ill end up loving the whole album and not skipping a song. I am already getting tired of Backspacer and seem to be skipping most of the songs. This should have been a double disk with S/T.
    This baffles me. Oh well
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    Rygar wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    Bitcing is an art too now days
    Spelling is also an art these days :P
    no no my friend,,u just dont understand..i speak the BEST..GREEKNGLISH in the world.. :lol:
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  • gusturtle
    gusturtle Posts: 443
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    Yeah i jokingly referred to it as Blandspacer. I say it in every thread

    if you're saying it again and again in every thread, wouldn't that in fact make you, yourself, the 'Blandspacer'? :o

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