Im so tired of people sayig listen to it 90 times first!

PearlJammer623PearlJammer623 Posts: 189
edited September 2009 in The Porch
Listen fools......I can listen to a really bad radio song 90 times, and it would be stuck on my brain eventually. Does that means its good? Pearl Jam needs to just make what comes natural musically! I mean stop trying to be pop music, and certainly stop trying to be punk rock ( i mean your all prob over 45 years old) Ed you do not have a voice to sing technical long ballads..... you used to have a voice that could show more range, and power, but even then it wasnt meant for LONG TECHNICAL BALLADS. What is this shit creed? Wheres the great guitar riffs that the BAND used to create to start a song.....this shit sounds so slick and has no personality. OK SO MAYBE IF I LISTEN TO IT 90 TIMES ILL LIKE IT....WHATEVER. MY FRIEND JUST GAVE ME THE NEW BLACK CROWS CD...NOW THATS HOW A BAND MATURES,,,OR AT LEAST FINDS THEMSELVES IF THEY WERE LOST AT ONE TIME....EXCELLENT WRITING , MUSIC, AND CREATIVITY... IF IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM PISSED OFF, WELL I AM NOT..LOL ITS JUST WHAT I THOUGHT AFTER MY 6TH LISTEN TO THE ALBUM.

LETS HOPE THEY FIND THEMSELVES NEXT TIME...
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  • I'm a huge Crowes fan seem em like 15-20 times but the last three times I've seen them I almost fell asleep. They really no longer rock. They have the ability to, but Chris just kinda sings the same kinda song like five times in a row anymore. The new album to me was boring. Backspacer on the other hand was absolutley great from start to finish.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,948
    edited September 2009
    IF IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM PISSED OFF, WELL I AM NOT..LOL

    Well all the capitalization makes it sound like you are.

    It's a good album but I'm not too into it. Nothing's horrible on it, but I don't think anything is great either. And I can't believe how people are talking up Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves. They're both good songs, but some people are saying they are among the best the band has ever created....which I respectfully disagree with. At the end of the day, it's 11 new PJ songs so that's cool. And maybe some of my opinions on the songs will change once I see them live
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  • just listen to the album a couple more times. you'll come around.
  • hedavehedave Posts: 201
    Easy Turbo! It's okay.
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  • find themselves? hey fella it's obvious that lots of people LOVE the new album and don't think they need to find themselves at all.

    if you dont like it, fine ... it's a taste thing. but the rest of us dont mind 45 year old punk songs or "technical" ballads. whatever the hell that means.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Really i love it, except the fixer thats the only song im not loving but the rest is really good.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,527
    poor baby.....
  • I'm pretty sure Ed said they didn't spend much time on these songs at all. They just made the music that came to them. I like it! Though my fav. album is still Yield!
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  • Chill out man. No one cares if you dont like it. go away.
  • snipes824 wrote:
    just listen to the album a couple more times. you'll come around.


    LOL THAT WAS FUNNY....THANKS I NEEDED THE LAUGH...I FELT PEOPLE TOOK MY OPINION TOO PERSONAL
  • Dude, get a grip. If you don't like it it's not the end of the world nor does it diminish the enjoyment for those of us that do. Music is personal tastes. Relax...
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  • Dude, get a grip. If you don't like it it's not the end of the world nor does it diminish the enjoyment for those of us that do. Music is personal tastes. Relax...

    I TOTALLY AGREE, MUSIC IS PERSONAL TASTE. BUT EVERYONE IS SAYING ITS GREAT...YOU WILL LEARN TO LIKE AFTER LISTENING TO IT 30 TIMES..LOL
  • Dude, get a grip. If you don't like it it's not the end of the world nor does it diminish the enjoyment for those of us that do. Music is personal tastes. Relax...

    I TOTALLY AGREE, MUSIC IS PERSONAL TASTE. BUT EVERYONE IS SAYING ITS GREAT...YOU WILL LEARN TO LIKE AFTER LISTENING TO IT 30 TIMES..LOL

    the capitalization dude....the capitalization.....
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,923
    i love it but if you don't then don't listen to it. they've earned the right to make what they want to and the overall response is very positive.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • i dont know what everyone's getting so pissed off about... i mean, first of all, he's right. and second, you can sit here and give everyone else your opinions all day long but as soon as someone gives theirs and you dont agree with it, you tell them to shut up and fuck off. anyway, hes right, technically, even if you dont want to admit it. not sayin i dont like the album, i do, im actually listening to it right now. but i think it just comes down to the simple fact that i miss the old pearl jam, not this pop bullshit
    In July 2007 Densmore said that he would not rejoin The Doors unless it was fronted by Eddie Vedder. Densmore says, "I play with Jim. If there's someone of that level, OK. I'm not gonna join them with Ian. That's not to diss Ian, he's a good singer - but he's no Jim Morrison. Eddie Vedder? My God, there's a singer."
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    sorry for caps everyone....i hit it by accident while typing, and was too lazy to unlock it.
  • Ed you do not have a voice to sing technical long ballads..... you used to have a voice that could show more range, and power, but even then it wasnt meant for LONG TECHNICAL BALLADS.

    No, no, no....Disagree. Have you been to his solo shows? Ed's voice is in prime shape; if there was ever any doubt (and for me, there wasn't) his shows in Hawaii this year dispelled every bit of that. Stunning... beautiful, rich, and stunning. I was totally carried away. His voice is perfect for ballads and anything else he chooses to sing - in my humble opinion, of course. ;)
  • Bulldog88 wrote:
    Ed you do not have a voice to sing technical long ballads..... you used to have a voice that could show more range, and power, but even then it wasnt meant for LONG TECHNICAL BALLADS.

    No, no, no....Disagree. Have you been to his solo shows? Ed's voice is in prime shape; if there was ever any doubt (and for me, there wasn't) his shows in Hawaii this year dispelled every bit of that. Stunning... beautiful, rich, and stunning. I was totally carried away. His voice is perfect for ballads and anything else he chooses to sing - in my humble opinion, of course. ;)

    agreed. he had a lot more trouble with ballads back in the early days.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited September 2009
    I think everyone could at least admit that the band just keeps evolving and simply doesn't sound characteristically like the "old" PJ. I admit, I miss Mike's solos on Backspacer, I also think that they're less "rock" as half the album's songs are on the slow side (I prefer the former, personally). I've heard the new Black Crowes album and didn't buy it (although I just saw them the other night and they were fantastic) because I'm not into their new country style. Bands evolve, whether we like it or not. If they always stayed the same, all their songs would sound alike and fans would get bored.
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  • Bulldog88 wrote:
    Ed you do not have a voice to sing technical long ballads..... you used to have a voice that could show more range, and power, but even then it wasnt meant for LONG TECHNICAL BALLADS.

    No, no, no....Disagree. Have you been to his solo shows? Ed's voice is in prime shape; if there was ever any doubt (and for me, there wasn't) his shows in Hawaii this year dispelled every bit of that. Stunning... beautiful, rich, and stunning. I was totally carried away. His voice is perfect for ballads and anything else he chooses to sing - in my humble opinion, of course. ;)

    No i was not at his solo show... you are very lucky.
    Ed can sing still,,no doubt. i was reading a story about ed , when he met a fan back stage, and he asked the fan... hey what song you wanna here tonight, and the kid said NOTHNGMAN. ed replied,,hmm i dont know if i can do that one tonight,,what else you got..lol My point being,,this album is very popy and too words and not enough mike in some of the songs. I just dont believe alot of the songs,,i can not travel with it, and feel the story... like say Nothingman for instance. It could be tbecause Ed did not write alot of the songs, so he doesnt have that investment internally ,,what the fuck do i know.
  • Jeanwah wrote:
    I think everyone could at least admit that the band just keeps evolving and simply doesn't sound characteristically like the "old" PJ. I admit, I miss Mike's solos on Backspacer, I also think that they're less a rock band as half the album's songs are slowish. I've heard the new Black Crowes album and didn't buy it (although I just saw them the other night and they were fantastic) because I'm not into their new country style. Bands evolve, whether we like it or not. If they always stayed the same, all their songs would sound alike.

    I totally agree, and respect evolution. I also mis mike being heard more on the record. As for the crows... i really like Luther's playing, and think he adds so much to the band. I actually always liked their southern roots, and songs...like Thorn in my pride for instance,,,,which has a county aspect, so the new album is really nice for me.
  • opinions, opinions.. we all have them .... :mrgreen:
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  • Bulldog88 wrote:
    Ed you do not have a voice to sing technical long ballads..... you used to have a voice that could show more range, and power, but even then it wasnt meant for LONG TECHNICAL BALLADS.

    No, no, no....Disagree. Have you been to his solo shows? Ed's voice is in prime shape; if there was ever any doubt (and for me, there wasn't) his shows in Hawaii this year dispelled every bit of that. Stunning... beautiful, rich, and stunning. I was totally carried away. His voice is perfect for ballads and anything else he chooses to sing - in my humble opinion, of course. ;)

    No i was not at his solo show... you are very lucky.
    Ed can sing still,,no doubt. i was reading a story about ed , when he met a fan back stage, and he asked the fan... hey what song you wanna here tonight, and the kid said NOTHNGMAN. ed replied,,hmm i dont know if i can do that one tonight,,what else you got..lol My point being,,this album is very popy and too words and not enough mike in some of the songs. I just dont believe alot of the songs,,i can not travel with it, and feel the story... like say Nothingman for instance. It could be tbecause Ed did not write alot of the songs, so he doesnt have that investment internally ,,what the fuck do i know.

    Sorry you didn't get to any of the solo shows - they were amazing, and yes, I have been extremely lucky - suprises me still. I think this album will prove itself to those who don't immediately take to it. I think the meanings will rise out of the songs. Some may seem simply stated, and I thought the same, to some degree. I'm finding things are different, yes, but I still see my old friend in there in a big way. They do have to remain relevant after all, so that means they must change to some degree. I feel like I don't even have the full grasp of the album yet - but thats me, and I do like to take my time with these things. Sometimes the intricacies jump out at me after a long day of work, or a conversation with a friend, or just some internal recognition. I simply don't feel that I have had enough time to make a full decision on the whole album, yet. That said - I genuinely like this album and I know as time passes most of these songs will continue to resonate with me. I just hope that sceptical fans will give it a chance and not condemn it without a deeper look.
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    This is great.
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    sorry for caps everyone....i hit it by accident while typing, and was too lazy to unlock it.

    THAT, my friend, takes lazy to a whole nuther level!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

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