MATT'S CRAPPY DRUM SOUND

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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    dreamweaver wrote:
    esacks23 wrote:
    ARazorbackguy1 wrote:
    I wish he'd use Carters drums from DMB. Better yet, take lessons from Carter

    yeah, in our dreams, right! dave a. was very similar to carter as far as talent and style goes. dave's kit wasn't as big and fancy but it didn't need to be considering pj's style of music vs. dmb. dave and carter both play effortlessly hard and never miss a beat and both know what to do during a jam session where matt just sounds lost and random.


    first of all, wake up? why don't you wake up from your stupidity? the fixer is simply a good song, and matt cameron is one of the finest drummers in the world. you think carter buttford is good, should have known, your like every other non-drummer in the world...

    Its awesome that you love Matt, He's my favorite drummer personally too.....

    But to say Carter BUTTford.....WOOOOOWWWW Carter is much more talented around the kit then Matt.
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    i think its very unfair and disrespectful to both matt and carter to compare them to each other. one plays in a jam band where he has the freedom to do 10-15 minute drum solo and the other is in a rock band.
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  • mattosborne
    mattosborne Posts: 339
    Carter and Matt are very different drummers. Matt & PJ are on a completely different planet stylistically than Carter & DMB. Both are amazing at what they do. A drummer like Carter would sound terrible in a band like PJ. Different wavelengths people.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    edited August 2009
    AllEncompassingTrip wrote:
    Bring back Jack Irons!
    God no..

    Can I just say.. I hate his style.. I like Matt's order.

    Jack's sloppiness just makes me edgy. I respect his abilities, but not for me.
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  • Sleep.With.Innocence
    Sleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    dreamweaver wrote:
    esacks23 wrote:
    ARazorbackguy1 wrote:
    I wish he'd use Carters drums from DMB. Better yet, take lessons from Carter

    yeah, in our dreams, right! dave a. was very similar to carter as far as talent and style goes. dave's kit wasn't as big and fancy but it didn't need to be considering pj's style of music vs. dmb. dave and carter both play effortlessly hard and never miss a beat and both know what to do during a jam session where matt just sounds lost and random.


    first of all, wake up? why don't you wake up from your stupidity? the fixer is simply a good song, and matt cameron is one of the finest drummers in the world. you think carter buttford is good, should have known, your like every other non-drummer in the world...

    Are you serious? I've played drums for years and I'll be the first to tell you from a technical perspective Carter is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Matt. He can't touch the Jazz style Carter uses.

    Matt's drumming sounds really good on the 98-00 bootlegs, it seems like he's lost something since then. Everything sounds exactly the same to me, there's no diversity in his playing at all.
  • stevej
    stevej Posts: 23
    dustinpardue wrote:
    I BrisK I wrote:
    Its all about the ayotte.


    This guy knows what he is talking about...............

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Matt should only be allowed to drum if he never writes another song again. His songs are gaping black holes of suck in every album.

    but as a drummer, i dont really care either way.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    MrSmith wrote:
    Matt should only be allowed to drum if he never writes another song again. His songs are gaping black holes of suck in every album.

    you've gotta be kidding me. to each their own, i guess.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    I like Matt live. My first PJ show was in 1998 so I've only seen them with Matt. I'm not saying that he's my favorite PJ drummer because he's not, but I always thought he more than held his own and plays live with a lot of energy. I t hink he brings more urgentness to the songs than Jack did.
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  • mattosborne
    mattosborne Posts: 339
    mfc2006 wrote:
    MrSmith wrote:
    Matt should only be allowed to drum if he never writes another song again. His songs are gaping black holes of suck in every album.

    you've gotta be kidding me. to each their own, i guess.

    I'm with you, I love Matt's tunes.
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  • Rossum20
    Rossum20 Posts: 910
    Matt is fine...my concern is the overall sound coming from the band...all instruments included. I think part of the reason the boots these days aren't as good is because a lot of times PJ's setup makes it sound like they are playing inside a tin can....those 2003 mixes were brilliant...get that sound back!! Give Jeff a little more juice on his bass and turn off that echoing, piercing shrill of mike's guitar...It would make the new tunes sound bad ass instead of sounding cracked out on high treble.
  • pjamaholic
    pjamaholic Posts: 1,225
    TheRiotAct wrote:
    esacks23 wrote:
    what i should have said was, i don't know how to play the drums. and you certainly don't have to know how to play the drums in order to know an amazing drummer(dave a.) from a lesser talented one (matt c.). it's pretty obvious.

    This has got to be the stupidest post I've read on this board. Again, have you ever listened to Soundgarden?? Odd time signtures, shifts in time mid song, mid verse, singing backup while drumming. Matt Cameron is an immensely talented drummer, and Dave A could nver hold a candle talent wise to Matt C. Debate whether you think one drummer is better suited for Pearl Jam, but do not debate drumming merits of Matt C to Dave A.

    Well said. This thread is definitely on the nose! :x
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 743
    Are you serious? I've played drums for years and I'll be the first to tell you from a technical perspective Carter is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Matt. He can't touch the Jazz style Carter uses.

    Matt's drumming sounds really good on the 98-00 bootlegs, it seems like he's lost something since then. Everything sounds exactly the same to me, there's no diversity in his playing at all.[/quote]


    are yooouuuu serious?? I like to think of it this way, Carter wouldn't be able to play how matt plays, Matt wouldn't be able to play how carter plays. Have you listened to any wellwater stuff? soundgarden? oh yea and any Pearl Jam? it's all about Sound, Time, Solidness, and Stamina... which is what makes matt a Legend
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,211
    TheRiotAct wrote:

    This has got to be the stupidest post I've read on this board. Again, have you ever listened to Soundgarden?? Odd time signtures, shifts in time mid song, mid verse, singing backup while drumming. Matt Cameron is an immensely talented drummer, and Dave A could nver hold a candle talent wise to Matt C. Debate whether you think one drummer is better suited for Pearl Jam, but do not debate drumming merits of Matt C to Dave A.
    Cameron is an animal behind the kit.
    sure his style may lack complexity, but he is one of the best rock drummers Ive ever seen live
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    dreamweaver wrote:
    esacks23 wrote:
    ARazorbackguy1 wrote:
    I wish he'd use Carters drums from DMB. Better yet, take lessons from Carter

    yeah, in our dreams, right! dave a. was very similar to carter as far as talent and style goes. dave's kit wasn't as big and fancy but it didn't need to be considering pj's style of music vs. dmb. dave and carter both play effortlessly hard and never miss a beat and both know what to do during a jam session where matt just sounds lost and random.


    first of all, wake up? why don't you wake up from your stupidity? the fixer is simply a good song, and matt cameron is one of the finest drummers in the world. you think carter buttford is good, should have known, your like every other non-drummer in the world...

    Sleep.With.Innocence wrote:
    Are you serious? I've played drums for years and I'll be the first to tell you from a technical perspective Carter is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Matt. He can't touch the Jazz style Carter uses.

    Matt's drumming sounds really good on the 98-00 bootlegs, it seems like he's lost something since then. Everything sounds exactly the same to me, there's no diversity in his playing at all.


    I agree Sleep.With.Innocence, though I think even in 98-00 Matt was still not playing the early music well.... and I too am a drummer of a couple dozen years. At least Matt has been able to be creative on the albums he recorded with the band.

    Do you remember the little story "Emperor's New Clothes"? This topic is along similar lines.
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  • Stephen Flow
    Stephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    And the great debate continues...

    :roll:
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    MrSmith wrote:
    Matt should only be allowed to drum if he never writes another song again. His songs are gaping black holes of suck in every album.

    You better rush to the hospital. You have an obvious brain injury.
  • kiljoythemerciful
    kiljoythemerciful Posts: 549
    Matt should pack up his crappy drums and find a new profession. Clearly he is not meant to be a drummer. Man I wish Matt Chamberlain said Yes :roll:

    Bunch o'fuckin idiots.
  • GD124635
    GD124635 Posts: 90
    MrSmith wrote:
    Matt should only be allowed to drum if he never writes another song again. His songs are gaping black holes of suck in every album.

    but as a drummer, i dont really care either way.

    Agreed! Not a fan of the Matt songs

    I prefer Jack and Dave drumming. Jack gave them such a unique sound and influence.
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    kiljoythemerciful wrote:
    Matt should pack up his crappy drums and find a new profession. Clearly he is not meant to be a drummer. Man I wish Matt Chamberlain said Yes :roll:

    Bunch o'fuckin idiots.
    totally agree

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