have pearl jam done a bad album?

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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    No. Not even close. They've done some albums that some people don't like but that's the fault of their intentionally diverse output.
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  • quiet riot act
    quiet riot act Posts: 55
    pearl jam is horrible
    absolutely unlistenable

    I think the first two suck ass AS well
  • quiet riot act
    quiet riot act Posts: 55
    Cropduster84 wrote:
    I prefer Riot Act to Avacado..... :(

    it just has more depth, apart from Come Back and Marker in the Sand nothing really moves me on Avacado...I dislike most stuff about Avacado, unfortunately i think im also constantly put off by the awful artwork.....


    with out question
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    quiet riot act wrote:
    with out question


    I take it you agree? :D
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  • quiet riot act
    quiet riot act Posts: 55
    Pegasus wrote:
    just look how many RA songs they played in the last 2 years! and in the Euro dates, that didn't even have a RA tour!)..but I don't put Yield in the top half of theirs either...

    frankly, most people will say RA was the low point, the ones who don't are the exception.


    look how many binaural songs were played during the ra tour
    look how many yield songs were played during the binaural tour
    'look how many no code songs were played during the yield tour

    get the point, genius

    riot act is like a high IQ... not everybody gets it
  • itsevobaby
    itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    quiet riot act wrote:
    pearl jam is horrible
    absolutely unlistenable

    I think the first two suck ass AS well
    ........

    *passes out*
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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    quiet riot act wrote:
    look how many binaural songs were played during the ra tour
    look how many yield songs were played during the binaural tour
    'look how many no code songs were played during the yield tour

    get the point, genius

    riot act is like a high IQ... not everybody gets it
    I'll bet you whatever there won't be more RA songs in the next few tours.. they were in that mood at that time, but none of those songs are stand out..I am Mine is the only one that'll stay in proper rotation..and not that much either..

    07 wasn't a S/T tour as such, since they were in the same places as the previous year..less S/T songs...but even less RA ones!

    I don't hate RA btw..but it's the weakest link imo.
  • Cropduster84
    Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Save You kicks some serious ass.....
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  • quiet riot act
    quiet riot act Posts: 55
    itsevobaby wrote:
    ........

    *passes out*


    off pearl jams best album
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUTeZ174kY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5DhrB9F7og

    second best
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av41cnvTqdI

    third best album
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wH6gkhirhw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLut7QVxXn0

    fourth best album
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8GGSOy_lM

    fifth best
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTmVNCyGctY


    the rest are all tied for worst/horrible/embarrassing

    know that
  • quiet riot act
    quiet riot act Posts: 55
    Pegasus wrote:
    I'll bet you whatever there won't be more RA songs in the next few tours.. they were in that mood at that time, but none of those songs are stand out..I am Mine is the only one that'll stay in proper rotation..and not that much either..

    07 wasn't a S/T tour as such, since they were in the same places as the previous year..less S/T songs...but even less RA ones!

    I don't hate RA btw..but it's the weakest link imo.


    the band almost to a man admits that (riot act) is their best/most personal work

    sure go ahead and dig on pearl jam / ten and that second one...
    those are the american idols and the jerry springer shows of the pearl jam catalogue

    riot act is like pbs .... only smart people get it... and are in to it

    but i don't want to argue because i'm right
  • randaldoesjersey
    randaldoesjersey Posts: 151
    quiet riot act wrote:
    the band almost to a man admits that (riot act) is their best/most personal work

    sure go ahead and dig on pearl jam / ten and that second one...
    those are the american idols and the jerry springer shows of the pearl jam catalogue

    riot act is like pbs .... only smart people get it... and are in to it

    but i don't want to argue because i'm right


    I wouldn't say "only smart people get it", but yes, it is an acquired taste. It's a lot more difficult to get into than any of their other records, as the songs have a lot more depth.

    I personally love Riot Act and prefer it over Ten or Avocado, but I can see how some people-- mostly those who prefer the "arena rock" side of Pearl Jam-- could be put off by it.
  • drtyfrnk29
    drtyfrnk29 Posts: 846
    Consider me a RA supporter as well. It took a while to warm up to it but now I find myself grabbing that one before Binaural or Avo. For the longest time, No Code was my least fave but even that has grown on me.
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  • Fitz
    Fitz Posts: 169
    On the Riot Act debate, I think its awesome myself. Anyway since Vitalogy their albums have been very, very good and the only one's I listen to now. To me Ten and V's are shit because of this, the over production on Ten makes me cringe. I have given it so many chances recently but no more, I can take V's but only because of the odd songs on there.

    At the end of the day its about personal opinions which is great, personally I hate calling any PJ album but there's no real harm done when you do.
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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    quiet riot act wrote:
    the band almost to a man admits that (riot act) is their best/most personal work

    sure go ahead and dig on pearl jam / ten and that second one...
    those are the american idols and the jerry springer shows of the pearl jam catalogue

    riot act is like pbs .... only smart people get it... and are in to it

    but i don't want to argue because i'm right
    source?

    yeah.. easy to be right when you just call people that don't agree stupid but don't give any arguments..:rolleyes:
  • Principal Douglas
    Principal Douglas Posts: 7
    I'm a bit surprised that so many people dislike 'Riot Act'. I guess not everyone will like everything but songs like 'Can't Keep' and 'Thumbing My Way' are brilliant, and 'Save You' is simply a ball tearer of a song.

    'No Code' is probably my least favourite of all Pearl Jam's albums, but that's not to say I don't like it - I really love it, just not as much as the others.

    The self-titled album is an absolute step in the right direction for Pearl Jam. I think it's their strongest release in years. I can't wait to see what they come out with next :D
  • pjten77
    pjten77 Posts: 225
    wow!!!!...can't believe there's so much dislike for Riot Act. I thought it was a very personal and reflective album. I hold it pretty high up there, more so than No Code, Binauraul or Yield.....but that's the great thing about PJ fans...it doesn't really matter what we individually think about the records....we all love the band......peace, love and PJ!!!!
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  • Pegasus
    Pegasus Posts: 3,754
    pjten77 wrote:
    wow!!!!...can't believe there's so much dislike for Riot Act. I thought it was a very personal and reflective album. I hold it pretty high up there, more so than No Code, Binauraul or Yield.....but that's the great thing about PJ fans...it doesn't really matter what we individually think about the records....we all love the band......peace, love and PJ!!!!
    as many pearl jam tastes as there are fans..for every song someone adores, someone will hate it, and vice-versa.. :D
  • Evacuation Rules
    Evacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    soulsinging wrote:
    it is a bad album. it's only got about 3 or 4 tracks worth hearing and even those are pretty average. on top of that is a ton of shitty filler.

    You must be talking about Avocado.
  • itsevobaby
    itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    quiet riot act wrote:
    riot act is like pbs .... only smart people get it... and are in to it

    but i don't want to argue because i'm right
    oh teach me wise sensei :rolleyes:
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  • tama_drummer91
    tama_drummer91 Posts: 205
    quiet riot act wrote:
    look how many binaural songs were played during the ra tour
    look how many yield songs were played during the binaural tour
    'look how many no code songs were played during the yield tour

    get the point, genius

    riot act is like a high IQ... not everybody gets it


    I agree here with you. I had no idea people would quote me so much. Its all a matter of opinion. I just believe the band reached its peak with Binaural and has stayed there. If people want to talk about how little Riot Act gets played. Look at how little play No Code gets. I dont need anyone to tell me that album sucks. Its impossible to say that No Code sucks. Sometimes I even think Riot Act is No Code 2. It seems a lot of people didnt want to accept No Code when it came out. I love all the albums. If it sounds like Im bashing Yield, Im really not. All their albums are fantastic. They are kinda hard to compare to one another because they are all different. We all have different tastes. Riot Act is very layered and complex. Some people dont like that. It often times surprises me how little love Avocado gets when its the closest album to Yield the band has done yet. I find that so awkward.

    By the way when people talk about what the band thinks; they said that they felt Avocado was easily the best stuff they have recorded. At least Ed does. When has the band ever played one of their albums in order, completely, and perfectly like the boys did in Torino with Avocado?
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