but I suspect this is part of a similar deal to that with Target in the US for the retail distribution of their album. HMV distribute the album, the band gets to do a warm up show and HMV get the kudos of having tickets for sale fora PJ gig which encourages fans to buy the album in advance through the website.
I agree, but PJ are big enough to sort this out themselves. If NIN can do it, then so can PJ.
Nice to know that the O2 network might get some tickets for their own pre-sale thingy - they came through for me with FNM recently. I'll certainly be posting any links I get right here.
Well us paddys have had 1 show since 00 so we deserve this bit of love, thanks 10c
thats true
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Well us paddys have had 1 show since 00 so we deserve this bit of love, thanks 10c
This only crossed my mind today! We've only had one show in 9 years. And there's probably only about 5, maybe 10, 10c members in Ireland!
Once again, thank you 10c for thinking of our little country!
I'd say there is more than that, hell there is 4 in my family alone and I know more members who just don't post on here, some people are not fortunate enough (or mabe sad enough :shock: ) to have jobs that allow them to sit on here half the day!!
I still reckon if rem can sell out 5 nights in the Olympia, pj could easily do the same...could you imagine that
note to rubysdad...sort it out big man
Well us paddys have had 1 show since 00 so we deserve this bit of love, thanks 10c
thats true
You're a very wise man d It has to be said
of course,,with friends like u what did u expect??
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The UK is actually the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
It was all of Ireland at one time until the partition of the country. I guess just too difficult from a tix point of view to 'split' ireland so the Republic benefits!
I'm supposed to be on holiday in Wales at the time... would be a lot more travelling and money I don't really have...
AHHHHH!
Feels like I might miss a huge opportunity here, but I am going to London/Manchester later.
exact my thoughts...I might miss a huge opportunity here..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Bah. I still maintain that this show should be ticketed on a distance-from-venue basis. Entry into the venue too- those living within one mile in first, 3 minutes later those within 3 miles, and so on.
Sure this sales format will be open to the other Europeans... if we haven't completely obliterated the allocation already
The UK is actually the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
It was all of Ireland at one time until the partition of the country. I guess just too difficult from a tix point of view to 'split' ireland so the Republic benefits!
Irish are good people,,they make a favor to them..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Nice to know that the O2 network might get some tickets for their own pre-sale thingy - they came through for me with FNM recently. I'll certainly be posting any links I get right here.
If you check out the blueroom, the gig is announced BUT they show pre-sale date of 23rd July which is general sales day!
but ONLY the UK has gotten 2 special, small venue shows....plus the taping of that jules holland show too. that was all i was sayin'. if they spread the love around a bit more over in europe, other countries get a special show or 2 here or there....i'd not have said a thing. to me, if there are so few 10c members in the rest of europe, couple that with the fact that the fans would have to plan the dates to travel, etc...that would be limiting how many europeans would even be trying in the first place, and i for one just thought it would be nice if they got a chance at 10c tix too. that is all.
and you said the UK probably has double the 10c members than the rest of the entirety of europe. THAT is a good comparison with the NE of the US. we have probably the BIGGESt contigent of 10clubbers, on the planet....but most definitely the US. there's lots of different ways to compare...;)
from a viewpoint of accessibility I prefer 2 'proper' shows to 2 'special' shows, since the chance of attending those is close to zero...and before this year the UK had only one 'proper' show in the last 9 years
and I said there are probably has AS many, not twice as many...
again, I think every country in (western) europe had its fair share of shows if you take together 06, 07, 09...there's no reason to go nuts about one 3000 capacity show...
if you have a show like SBE in a place where PJ has a lower profile, people from the UK (or US) will end up flying there and making up a large share of the crowd anyway...so i guess it's just easier that way...and better for the environment...
Of course, the question is, how many tickets 10c have available to them?
They only offered 50 pairs for the Astoria, and a third of tickets went to 'the industry'. I reckon it'll be same deal this time.
Mish mash mosh it'll be
really?that sucks...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Of course, the question is, how many tickets 10c have available to them?
They only offered 50 pairs for the Astoria, and a third of tickets went to 'the industry'. I reckon it'll be same deal this time.
Mish mash mosh it'll be
exactly...even if they offer 150 pairs (10% of venue capacity), chances to get tickets for this show trough 10c are close to zero...that's why I don't understand the fuss about not letting other europeans take part in this 10c sale...if it's really random lottery, and half of Europe's 10c members are in the UK+IRL, not more than 75 other europeans would be able to score a pair...now who thinks he or she would be one of them...?
I'm your man. I can put the money for my ticket in your bank account as soon as you get it. :oops:
No problem. Have a strong feeling that I'll no be lucky this time around though.
There are various issues here that will throw-up varying points of view on the whole thing, and I'm gonna make some enemies here by saying this, but I think that it's right that (at least temporarily) the 10c should hold tickets for UK members only. It would be the same for the French if the show was in Paris, etc, etc.
I have been a member since 92 & read reports of 10c only shows in the States that date back to those early years. When originally joining the 10c, the idea of Fan Club only shows was something that helped cement the deal of joining-up - they were not promised, but they were hinted at. To this day we in the UK (and many other territories) have not had one. There are those, and I am one of them, that believe that the Astoria show should have been 10c only. Harsh maybe, but I think a just reward for those that have followed the band for many years & spent a lot of money on their goods. I feel the same about this SBE show.
The HMV pre-order will do nothing to get tickets into the hands of true fans, because you can pre-order the album to receive the link, and then cancel the order once you know if you have been successful or not. the touts will know this & will exploit this loophole. So will anyone else who wants to make a fast Buck (I suppose that should be Pound) on the night of the gig, just by going down to the venue & selling their ticket for a HUGE profit.
The 10c should have just opened-up this pre-sale to UK members first, allowing us to purchase either 1 or 2 tickets, and then on the second day, open the sale up to all 10c members. Hell, I'm not even sure if there are enough active 10c members in the UK who could fill the venue anyway. perhaps there are...
I guess we'll have to wait until Monday to see how the 10c pre-sale goes, and then the following day for the HMV pre-sale - and here my initial point in my first post still stands - the pre-sale for HMV takes place at 9am on Tues 21st, which is only hours after the PJ pre-sale. It is almost guaranteed that the confirmation of our ticket orders from the 10c will not get to us by 9am on Tuesday which will result in many of us trying for both sales, which will result in some people obtaining 4 tickets. I know they will find good homes here, but I feel that this could be done so much better & made it possible for more genuine & long-term fans to get tickets without the hassle of finding someone with a spare or 2. Other bands such as Nine Inch Nails manage to do this quite successfully.
Having said all that I have said, I wish everyone here good luck in obtaining tickets for what will surely be a superb show.
I pretty much agree with the above, I've been a TC member since 93 and apart from being guaranteed tickets to most UK shows I've never been able to make full advantage of my low TC number, in terms of seniority etc. Have to say I'd be devastated if I missed out on this gig.
My PJ shows:
London 28/10/96, Las Vegas 11/7/98, London 29/5/00, Nurnburg 11/6/00, Prague 14/6/00, Salzburg 18/6/00, Verona 20/6/00, Milan 22/6/00, Zurich 23/6/00, New York 8-9/7/03, Boston 11/7/03, Reading Festival 27/8/06, Shepards Bush 11/8/09, Berlin 15/8/09, Manchester 17/8/09, London 18/8/09, Dublin 22/6/10, Belfast 23/6/10, London (HRC) 25/6/10, Alpine Valley (PJ20) 3-4/9/11, Manchester 20-21/6/12, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14 To be continued....
Of course, the question is, how many tickets 10c have available to them?
They only offered 50 pairs for the Astoria, and a third of tickets went to 'the industry'. I reckon it'll be same deal this time.
Mish mash mosh it'll be
exactly...even if they offer 150 pairs (10% of venue capacity), chances to get tickets for this show trough 10c are close to zero...that's why I don't understand the fuss about not letting other europeans take part in this 10c sale...if it's really random lottery, and half of Europe's 10c members are in the UK+IRL, not more than 75 other europeans would be able to score a pair...now who thinks he or she would be one of them...?
Think the capacity is only 2000 .... so could only be 100 pairs 10c have.
So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
What exactly do they mean by membership must be 'active?' Anyone know for sure what this means?
My PJ shows:
London 28/10/96, Las Vegas 11/7/98, London 29/5/00, Nurnburg 11/6/00, Prague 14/6/00, Salzburg 18/6/00, Verona 20/6/00, Milan 22/6/00, Zurich 23/6/00, New York 8-9/7/03, Boston 11/7/03, Reading Festival 27/8/06, Shepards Bush 11/8/09, Berlin 15/8/09, Manchester 17/8/09, London 18/8/09, Dublin 22/6/10, Belfast 23/6/10, London (HRC) 25/6/10, Alpine Valley (PJ20) 3-4/9/11, Manchester 20-21/6/12, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14 To be continued....
What exactly do they mean by membership must be 'active?' Anyone know for sure what this means?
I think they mean that your membership must be "in date" on the date they have specified.
yes,,exactly..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Australia has never ever ever ever had a show that even resembles intimate. They have never played a non-stadium venue here and probably never will. There have been countless Euro shows from the beginning of PJ time played in small clubs.
Size is everything and this will be one awesome show for those in the UK. Think yourselves lucky.
I hope the 10c members who have allready ordered Backspacer via PJ.com will be favoured when it comes to the lottery. Also those who live in London too! I have ordered the album via 10c as I always do but now having to order a second album from HMV to double my chances of this gig. I will end up with two albums perhaps which I am not keen on but if it gets me into that gig all the better. I really hope they do something similar in Europe for non UK members as be nice to share the love.
Rock on!!!!
Seen Pearl Jam 4 times in London, once in Manchester, as well as an Eddie show at Hammersmith.
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I agree, but PJ are big enough to sort this out themselves. If NIN can do it, then so can PJ.
Nice to know that the O2 network might get some tickets for their own pre-sale thingy - they came through for me with FNM recently. I'll certainly be posting any links I get right here.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You're a very wise man d It has to be said
This only crossed my mind today! We've only had one show in 9 years. And there's probably only about 5, maybe 10, 10c members in Ireland!
Once again, thank you 10c for thinking of our little country!
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SMELL YER MA!
AHHHHH!
Feels like I might miss a huge opportunity here, but I am going to London/Manchester later.
I'd say there is more than that, hell there is 4 in my family alone
I still reckon if rem can sell out 5 nights in the Olympia, pj could easily do the same...could you imagine that
note to rubysdad...sort it out big man
of course,,with friends like u what did u expect??
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The UK is actually the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
It was all of Ireland at one time until the partition of the country. I guess just too difficult from a tix point of view to 'split' ireland so the Republic benefits!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I like your way of thinking....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If you check out the blueroom, the gig is announced BUT they show pre-sale date of 23rd July which is general sales day!
from a viewpoint of accessibility I prefer 2 'proper' shows to 2 'special' shows, since the chance of attending those is close to zero...and before this year the UK had only one 'proper' show in the last 9 years
and I said there are probably has AS many, not twice as many...
again, I think every country in (western) europe had its fair share of shows if you take together 06, 07, 09...there's no reason to go nuts about one 3000 capacity show...
if you have a show like SBE in a place where PJ has a lower profile, people from the UK (or US) will end up flying there and making up a large share of the crowd anyway...so i guess it's just easier that way...and better for the environment...
They only offered 50 pairs for the Astoria, and a third of tickets went to 'the industry'. I reckon it'll be same deal this time.
Mish mash mosh it'll be
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2009 ░▒▓ Manchester, London
2010 ░▒▓ Hyde Park
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
exactly...even if they offer 150 pairs (10% of venue capacity), chances to get tickets for this show trough 10c are close to zero...that's why I don't understand the fuss about not letting other europeans take part in this 10c sale...if it's really random lottery, and half of Europe's 10c members are in the UK+IRL, not more than 75 other europeans would be able to score a pair...now who thinks he or she would be one of them...?
I pretty much agree with the above, I've been a TC member since 93 and apart from being guaranteed tickets to most UK shows I've never been able to make full advantage of my low TC number, in terms of seniority etc. Have to say I'd be devastated if I missed out on this gig.
London 28/10/96, Las Vegas 11/7/98, London 29/5/00, Nurnburg 11/6/00, Prague 14/6/00, Salzburg 18/6/00, Verona 20/6/00, Milan 22/6/00, Zurich 23/6/00, New York 8-9/7/03, Boston 11/7/03, Reading Festival 27/8/06, Shepards Bush 11/8/09, Berlin 15/8/09, Manchester 17/8/09, London 18/8/09, Dublin 22/6/10, Belfast 23/6/10, London (HRC) 25/6/10, Alpine Valley (PJ20) 3-4/9/11, Manchester 20-21/6/12, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14 To be continued....
Think the capacity is only 2000 .... so could only be 100 pairs 10c have.
That's why there were some tickets available at the door.... Maybe we'll see Plant and his son again! Actually, his son should be opening for PJ.....
London 28/10/96, Las Vegas 11/7/98, London 29/5/00, Nurnburg 11/6/00, Prague 14/6/00, Salzburg 18/6/00, Verona 20/6/00, Milan 22/6/00, Zurich 23/6/00, New York 8-9/7/03, Boston 11/7/03, Reading Festival 27/8/06, Shepards Bush 11/8/09, Berlin 15/8/09, Manchester 17/8/09, London 18/8/09, Dublin 22/6/10, Belfast 23/6/10, London (HRC) 25/6/10, Alpine Valley (PJ20) 3-4/9/11, Manchester 20-21/6/12, Leeds 8/7/14, Milton Keynes 11/7/14 To be continued....
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
good luck to those who will be trying!
Australia has never ever ever ever had a show that even resembles intimate. They have never played a non-stadium venue here and probably never will. There have been countless Euro shows from the beginning of PJ time played in small clubs.
Size is everything and this will be one awesome show for those in the UK. Think yourselves lucky.
The majority of us do
cos it's still british summer time at the moment which means GMT +1....
Seen Pearl Jam 4 times in London, once in Manchester, as well as an Eddie show at Hammersmith.