neil young says music cannot change the world

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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    JaneNY wrote:
    Yes. This thread made me sad this morning, but then I was thinking during the day what about Bridge School? That has made a change in the world, and music, lots of it, has made a difference. I've never been to Bridge School, but I went to Download last year at the same venue, and it felt like being in church. On one side, there is a wooden fence, and many pictures of bands, pictures of them playing at Bridge School, including Pearl Jam, and to me these show a history of those who HAVE made a difference in plenty of peoples' lives, and Neil Young was instrumental in making it happen. I hope someone will remind him of this. I think we all feel discouraged. from time to time.

    right after my post i thought of the bridge school. does that mean all the people who have spent money to see and hear bands at the bridge school didnt change a thing? like i said, maybe not change, but music can help for sure. i love Neil, and it kind of bums me out that he said this, knowing what he has done with the bridge school. kinda makes me sad.
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    the wolf wrote:
    right after my post i thought of the bridge school. does that mean all the people who have spent money to see and hear bands at the bridge school didnt change a thing? like i said, maybe not change, but music can help for sure. i love Neil, and it kind of bums me out that he said this, knowing what he has done with the bridge school. kinda makes me sad.
    thats a pretty superficial monetary change... it wasnt the music that made the change... the music brought people there... the money did good... but the music only indirectly helped... people dont gotta try interpreting neil and defending the merit of music... if he thought it was useless he wouldnt continue to make it... hes 100% right though in a literal sense...
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    sgossard3 wrote:
    thats a pretty superficial monetary change... it wasnt the music that made the change... the music brought people there... the money did good... but the music only indirectly helped... people dont gotta try interpreting neil and defending the merit of music... if he thought it was useless he wouldnt continue to make it... hes 100% right though in a literal sense...

    the music is what made me spend the money. lets face it, with all the causes out there to donate to, we cant donate to all of them. if i am to be honest with you and myself, the bridge school is not on the top of my list of things to donate to. i love what it stands for, but there are other places my money goes to. but i have gone to the bridge school shows to hear the music, so like i said, maybe not change, but help. and if my money didnt "help" at all.......well then im sorry. and if it dont help enough to make a difference, even in a small way, why do it at all?
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    raising money for kids and trying to stop a war with music are two very different things.

    everyone is of the same opinion about helping kids. the music doesnt have to sway you. just by paying for the ticket you are helping kids, so it doesnt require much thought.

    people have differing opinions on politics. Some try to sway you with music. I've never heard any lyrics that were so incredible that i changed my mind on anything, though. its either preaching to the choir or annoying everyone else. Just paying for the ticket probably wont help much in these cases.
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    josevolution wrote:
    it can't, i can't think of one song that has ....

    We Shall Overcome
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • Hinny
    Hinny Posts: 1,610
    josevolution wrote:
    it can't, i can't think of one song that has ....
    La Marseillaise
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  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    MUSIC WILL NEVER CHANGE THE WORLD
    PEOPLE DO
    YOU CAN
    AND SO CAN I
    BUT how?
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • einatshaul
    einatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Hinny wrote:
    La Marseillaise

    good one Hinn! But still, songs are written and sang by people who are convinced already, who want to feel connected, empowered in their way and belief. I do not believe they create change - but they reflect it.

    And as I always say;
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272333
    I desire peace where I live
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  • VOLITION
    VOLITION Posts: 328
    People don't give a shit about changing the world. Most are more concerned about what crazy thing that wack job Britney Spears will do next.

    We are all fucked
    "it feels like it's the end of the world and we all got a good seat. you know -- step right up, get your tickets...here we go."

    - EV
  • simpleman
    simpleman Posts: 425
    " We are the world, we are the people, we are the ones to make a brighter day, so let's start giving....."

    This song was supposed to change the world, and it kind of did. Michael Jackson went on to build a carnival in his fucking back yard...
    " Jump from a cliff to fly, not to fall..."
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    hobbes wrote:
    think this may change Ed? Or at least shock him?

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080208160230.p2cyq6q1&show_article=1

    no, but the people that come together because of music can
    "Music, for me, was fucking heroin." eV (nothing Ed has said is more true for me personally than this quote)

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  • hailhail82
    hailhail82 Posts: 330
    check out Neil's clarification sparked by all the discussion about his comment:
    http://www.neilyoung.com/news/index.html
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • KDH12
    KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Today in Chicago a radio station has been celebrating the 40 year anniversary from 1968 when the beatles release the white album.....

    thinking back to then times were different, songs, protest, people could change the world.....

    neil is from that time and is probably having a hard time understanding what is going on today... especially his fellow artist.
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **

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