$80,000 Per Song !

soulsinging wrote:

I'm not disputing that record companies suck. I'll be perfectly happy seeing them go the way of the dodo. They're a terribly run business. Personally, I don't give a shit whether or not you download. I've done it in the past myself. There are plenty of solid reasons for opting to do it. My point is only that all your good reasons and rationalizations don't change the fact that it's illegal and that you could get fucked if you get caught. So by all means, download away. But don't cry to me if you end up getting busted and asked to pay a lot of $ for it. I say the same thing to pot smokers... yeah, it should be legal and the whole crack down on it is fucking stupid. But them's the breaks, deal with it.

And I don't believe there is such a thing as torrent. I think it's a huge hoax people are playing on us because it is SO IMPOSSIBLE to figure out how to use that nobody can possibly be getting any benefit from it

hmmmm....I'm guessing you're going to be a prosecutor?
Glad others can see the drug war paralells here....there is nothing worse than somene admitting a law is bs, but then saying, 'you get busted, deal with it'. What happened to standing up to injustice? Do we turn our backs on our fellow man because an unjust law doesn't affect us personally?

and c'mon ss, I know you're smart enough to figure out torrents with about fifteen minutes effort....it's not that hard; there are tutorials all over the web. literally 10-15 mins to set up and you're rolling. Then you can d/l all the shit you'd not have paid for anyway

soulsinging wrote:

Prosecutors won't have me, I've got a record. I'm much more on the criminal defense side of things anyway. I'm not saying you shouldn't take a stand or make waves about it. But be honest, you sitting home in your skivvies downloading albums isn't exactly making a statement on anything to anyone. That's not standing up to injustice and you're not an activist. You want to make a difference, do something about it. But don't try to act like you're making some sort of noble self-sacrificing act of civil disobedience. You're stealing music. Sure on the scale of laws you could break it's at the bottom, but it's still the law and you know what you're risking to do it.

I also do all I can to change marijuana laws and the like, but that doesn't mean that I expect that if I ever get busted I'm going to be let off the hook. I'd suck it up, because I know that's what the law is and I knew that going in.

As to torrent, I've tried many many times and it is never going to work for me. Besides, it seems like an absurd concept... you download a program so that you can download a torrent so that the torrent can download a zip file so that your computer and download the zip into songs... talk about taking the long way to get to songs on my computer. I'll take a trip to the local cd shop over that nonsense any day.

holy. The prosecutor comment was in response to you not wanting people to whine to you when they break the law...if you're much more on the criminal defense side...enjoy bein driven nuts by your clients for the rest of your life
I was also half kidding about standing up to injustice (being melodramatic)...missed a wink there. when did I imply that I was 'making some sort of noble self-sacrificing act of civil disobedience'? (In fact, where did I admit to d/l'ing music? ) You were just giving Byrnzie shit on the train for making assumptions about people and here you are making assumptions about me. Sometimes I think you just get off on these tough-love diatribes; bein all hardass :P


You're totally exaggerating the torrent process...(if it's so useless, why keep trying to make it work? )
You d/l the torrent client (software) once. when you save a torrent, select 'open file' and the client and torrent open together, right after you click on it (you make it sound like it's a hassle to d/l a 12kb file )...it takes 5-10 seconds to unzip rar files (which are not that prevalent) ....then it's done - on your pc in a pre-selected folder. ...the only thing that is over some peoples' heads is opening a port and/or getting around a router when installing the client....but even that is a matter of following like 5 steps/clicks...if you have BASIC computer skills, and can follow the instructions to make kraft fucking dinner, you can figure out torrents....unless you're soul, apparently