President Obama - How is he doing so far?

A complete and utter failure. flat out. I feel bad for those millions of folks who bought into the idea of "hope and change you can believe in".

Prior to the election, the only political writer worth reading, Matt Taibbi, wrote, "either obama represents real fundemental change, or is one more example of the disturbing lengths to which the system will go to to reinvent itself".

Its clear Taibbi hit it right on, the latter part.

Lets see, Obama, packs his cabinet and administration with war hawks. The same people who presided over a Bush presidency, now work with obama. Getting Emmanuel, and Clinton also didnt help matters. All are currupt. Two intensely unpopular wars continue under Obama, with obama vowing to escalate the war in afghanistan. How he plans to convince our soldiers this is a valid fight is anyone's guess. He has done absolutely nothing to help bring the troops home, and has done zilch to ease the pain of those whose family members are serving in iraq and to help those troops who come back home deal with what happened over there. We are in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and are experiencing a Depression of our own. Obama has done little to nothing to solve this.

This only cements my belief: real change never happens by the electoral process. No politician has ever started a social movement. All change, all meaningful change comes from normal people. Normal people who arent bought off and dont work on Capitol Hill.

Politicians are liars, thieves and criminals. Thats a stone cold fact. No one is exempt. No one. To think that Obama was an exception was a risk people took, and it turned out to bite them in the behind.

Obama is a liar, criminal and killer. He is responsible for the war just as Bush was and is, and Pelosi, Reid and all the other blowhard lying Dems and Republicans who do nothing to end this illegal war.

Obama is useless, meaningless and the sooner he is out of office the better.

No one has ever answered this question for me, and I have posted this on the board multiple times. To the six year old son or daughter whose father r mother is in Iraq right now, what difference does Democrat or Republican serve? Do they care about if Obama or Bush is in? Do you really think that six year old kid gives a damn someone has a D next to their name?

Obama should be tried for war crimes just like Bush and every single other president since Truman. When are we going to start the hearings?

musicismylife78 wrote:

A complete and utter failure. flat out. I feel bad for those millions of folks who bought into the idea of "hope and change you can believe in".

Prior to the election, the only political writer worth reading, Matt Taibbi, wrote, "either obama represents real fundemental change, or is one more example of the disturbing lengths to which the system will go to to reinvent itself".

Its clear Taibbi hit it right on, the latter part.

Lets see, Obama, packs his cabinet and administration with war hawks. The same people who presided over a Bush presidency, now work with obama. Getting Emmanuel, and Clinton also didnt help matters. All are currupt. Two intensely unpopular wars continue under Obama, with obama vowing to escalate the war in afghanistan. How he plans to convince our soldiers this is a valid fight is anyone's guess. He has done absolutely nothing to help bring the troops home, and has done zilch to ease the pain of those whose family members are serving in iraq and to help those troops who come back home deal with what happened over there. We are in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and are experiencing a Depression of our own. Obama has done little to nothing to solve this.

This only cements my belief: real change never happens by the electoral process. No politician has ever started a social movement. All change, all meaningful change comes from normal people. Normal people who arent bought off and dont work on Capitol Hill.

Politicians are liars, thieves and criminals. Thats a stone cold fact. No one is exempt. No one. To think that Obama was an exception was a risk people took, and it turned out to bite them in the behind.

Obama is a liar, criminal and killer. He is responsible for the war just as Bush was and is, and Pelosi, Reid and all the other blowhard lying Dems and Republicans who do nothing to end this illegal war.

Obama is useless, meaningless and the sooner he is out of office the better.

No one has ever answered this question for me, and I have posted this on the board multiple times. To the six year old son or daughter whose father r mother is in Iraq right now, what difference does Democrat or Republican serve? Do they care about if Obama or Bush is in? Do you really think that six year old kid gives a damn someone has a D next to their name?

: Obama should be tried for war crimes just like Bush and every single other president since Truman. When are to start the hearings?

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prfctlefts wrote:

Matt Taibbi is a douche bag when ever you decide to grow up go read a real magazine. I wouldn't count on rolling stone for getting actual facts when it come to politics

couldnt disagree more. What about his work do you dislike?

God forbid a writer of political issues not be swayed one way or the other. Taibbi is brilliant because he isnt some partisan hack. He doesnt write to put his money hungry friends in office. He writes to expose the fools who litter both sides of the aisle like detritus.

He seems to suggest that both parties are hopelessly currupt.

For all the crap he gave bush, he completely reemed Pelosi and Reid for their criminal and completely inept "opposition" to Bush.

For me, getting actual facts is about what the truth. True, you arent going to get actual facts from any political writer. They are expressing opinions.

That said, Taibbi cuts through the endless amounts of crap, and is very talented.

musicismylife78 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Matt Taibbi is a douche bag when ever you decide to grow up go read a real magazine. I wouldn't count on rolling stone for getting actual facts when it come to politics

couldnt disagree more. What about his work do you dislike?

God forbid a writer of political issues not be swayed one way or the other. Taibbi is brilliant because he isnt some partisan hack. He doesnt write to put his money hungry friends in office. He writes to expose the fools who litter both sides of the aisle like detritus.

He seems to suggest that both parties are hopelessly currupt.

For all the crap he gave bush, he completely reemed Pelosi and Reid for their criminal and completely inept "opposition" to Bush.

For me, getting actual facts is about what the truth. True, you arent going to get actual facts from any political writer. They are expressing opinions.

That said, Taibbi cuts through the endless amounts of crap, and is very talented.

Additionally, how is what Taibbi said, as quoted by me above, not the truth? Obama has shown himself to be the corporate tool and fool he always was. He doesnt give a damn at all.

What in a person makes them able to go on living, while they send youngsters off to die in Iraq and afghanistan? I have never understood that mindset. The mindset that feels everything is copasetic and kosher, when sending these kids off to war. I dont get it, and never will.

Bob Dylan's Masters of War remains the best antiwar song ever written. He exposes those phony people who cart others off to war, and in the end wants nothing else than to be watching as they are lowered into the crowd in a coffin. I couldnt agree more, and I cant wait for that day either. War is hell, and those who personally are involved in making decisions that send others to die, will be residing in hell in the future. Bush and his administration to be sure, but also the lowlife's like the Pelosi's, the Reid's, and Obama.

Life is precious. Thats clear to me. How can Obama or Bush or any president be as callous as to send people off to die?

The war will be Obama's undoing just like it was Bush's. You cant continue a war this unpopular without some consequences. And you cant lie to people without some consquences. You cant send people to die, refuse to bring them home, jerk their chains repeatedly with stop loss nonsense, and then refuse to assist them when they come home.

Their will be consequences. Obviously once again, power currupts, and money is shown to be more important than ethics, and human life. A real shame.

Obama strengthens the GOP everyday he is President. If it brings the GOP back to the conservative ways I'm all for it.

soulsinging wrote:

evenflow wrote:

There is no doubt that Bush left us in a shithole, but it’s time for Obama to stand up and take some responsibility.

That's hilarious and priceless. Classic conservative philosophy. Responsibility is for other people to take... when WE screw up it's someone else's fault and they should take responsibility for cleaning it up. Hehe.

Kinda like your fearless leader Rush's take on drug abusers...a bunch of worthless, weak burnouts that should be thrown in jail for life... unless you're Rush himself in which case you just need treatment. :roll:

How is that classic conservative philosophy ?
Your boy Obama and the whole damn democratic party has done nothing but bitch and moan about the past admin. He knew exactly what he was getting himself into when he decided to run for president. and at the same time he's running up more debt than any President in history. Not much humour in that as far as most people are concerned

And rush is definitely not the leader of the Republican party. Wise Up

prfctlefts wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

prfctlefts wrote:

Matt Taibbi is a douche bag when ever you decide to grow up go read a real magazine. I wouldn't count on rolling stone for getting actual facts when it come to politics

And its quite the opposite. Rolling Stone is useless as a music magazine. Anyone who thinks they will hear about a worthwhile band from the likes of the Spin's or Rolling Stones of the world is seriously mistaken.

But Rolling Stone's political writing and writings about social issues are some of the best in the buisiness.

Yeah sure it is if you have a far left view when it comes to politics and current events. and I thought the fiction interview he did on bush was nothing but Disrespect towards the white house and was an insult to the position. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with his policies,the war and whatever else. But you don't disrespect the position

What political position are you? Back the the W days, republicans said "If you dont support Bush or the war you are antiamerican and unpatriotic". The whole "love america or leave it" idea. Yet now that Obama is president those same folks, the limbaughs and hannitys of the world who said protesting Bush was unpatriotic are protesting obama and saying "I hope he fails" in the case of limbaugh.

I say republicans should treat obama the same way they treated bush. Either you support obama or you are unpatriotic

Same here, and if Obama fails we all fail. But my point is just because I dont like his policies that doesn't mean I or anyone else should disrespect him he is after all the President Of The United States. As was Bush. As far as what you mentioned about people protesting the war. I think there were and are different types of protesters. You got your peaceful demonstrators and the not so peaceful. I for one have no problem with people protesting as long as its peaceful. But when you got people acting out on pure emotion and not thinking things through,well that's when I think people start to think that as being un american. JMHO

prfctlefts wrote:

Same here, and if Obama fails we all fail. But my point is just because I dont like his policies that doesn't mean I or anyone else should disrespect him he is after all the President Of The United States. As was Bush. As far as what you mentioned about people protesting the war. I think there were and are different types of protesters. You got your peaceful demonstrators and the not so peaceful. I for one have no problem with people protesting as long as its peaceful. But when you got people acting out on pure emotion and not thinking things through,well that's when I think people start to think that as being un american. JMHO

i hear you, and when I was an activist, I was the peaceful kind.

that said, whats normal behavior in this world climate? When we are in the middle of two wars, and if one reads the newspaper, and reads about americans and iraqis dying, how do you process this? What is the "normal" reaction?

How about if your son or daughter was a u.s. soldier and died in combat in iraq, whats the "normal" behavior?

The reason I am no longer an activist is because the information I was recieving, daily death reports from iraq bbecame too overwhelming for me to deal with. I literally was changing into a different person. I was angry, upset, sad. I looked different and felt different. But thats what information like that can do to you.

Say, you know people your age are dying in iraq. That bombs are killing our soldiers and bombs are killing iraqis. That the death toll on both sides is frightening. What are you supposed to do with that information?

How about an iraq war veteran who returns home with PTSD and isnt getting the help they need. And then they get called back up. Whats the normal response to all that?

My point is, whats considered normal by millions of americans doesnt make that behavior normal.

And who is to say, how people should deal with the war. Its extremely upsetting. I dont even read the paper or watch the news anymore, but reguardless the effects of the war are still felt by me.