How is it possible to get 4 strikeouts in one inning?

spatspat Posts: 644
edited May 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
I've been a fan of baseball all my 29 years and I've never heard of this and can't figure it out! From my METS fact of the day calander:
"The first Mets pitcher to strike out four batters in one inning was Derek Wallace on Sept. 13, 1996"
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  • It can happen if the batter advances to first base on strike three when the catcher doesn't field the ball properly. The strikeout counts but not the out.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    dropped 3rd strike?
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    the ball gets away from the catcher on strike 3, and the batter takes first base.
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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    yeah, what they all said.
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    i throw 5 strikeouts per inning 8-)
  • spatspat Posts: 644
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
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  • spat wrote:
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
    how is it dumb? it gives the catcher a little responsibility too.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    i throw 5 strikeouts per inning 8-)
    your catcher is bad
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    Commy wrote:
    i throw 5 strikeouts per inning 8-)
    your catcher is bad
    or a bad ump!! ;)
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  • spatspat Posts: 644
    spat wrote:
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
    how is it dumb? it gives the catcher a little responsibility too.

    well thats cool to give him some responsibilty, but it shouldn't count it as a strike out, just seems a little backwards to me
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    Lizard wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    i throw 5 strikeouts per inning 8-)
    your catcher is bad
    or a bad ump!! ;)

    im just that good :)
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    spat wrote:
    spat wrote:
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
    how is it dumb? it gives the catcher a little responsibility too.

    well thats cool to give him some responsibilty, but it shouldn't count it as a strike out, just seems a little backwards to me


    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    spat wrote:
    spat wrote:
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
    how is it dumb? it gives the catcher a little responsibility too.

    well thats cool to give him some responsibilty, but it shouldn't count it as a strike out, just seems a little backwards to me

    i mean..the guy swings for strike 3, misses, and the catcher messes up. not the pitchers fault. he got the guy to miss either looking or swinging. do you want a do over? a free base?
    what is the other option?
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,879
    norm wrote:
    spat wrote:
    spat wrote:
    i figured it was something along those lines but i don't think i knew it didn't count as an out. thats one of the dumbest rules ever.
    how is it dumb? it gives the catcher a little responsibility too.

    well thats cool to give him some responsibilty, but it shouldn't count it as a strike out, just seems a little backwards to me


    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?[/quote]

    Exactly.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?


    if the pitch is in the strike zone or the batter swings at it, i'd hardly call it a bad pitch
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?


    wouldn't it be infinity?


    As long as the catcher keeps dropping the third strike then it could go on forever?

    In theory.
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    norm wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?


    if the pitch is in the strike zone or the batter swings at it, i'd hardly call it a bad pitch


    I guess the catcher could call a certain pitch and the pitcher throws it to a completely wrong spot, then it would perhaps be the pitchers fault that the catcher dropped it?
  • DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?

    That's a common misconception. While there are working aspects as far as the team, the game is more individually based stat and playing wise, and each position is grouped together into a team. It's not a team sport like football where so many aspects have to work together for one play to work. In baseball an individual controls the play. It's more of a team based on community than team based on team work. Of course there's relay's, pitcher/catcher relationships, etc, but the majority of the game is based on individual ability.

    So if the pitcher does his job, why should his stat be skewed? Hence why they have runs, and earned runs. Not all runs that score are based off the pitcher's inability to hold them. Just like you said, you can get a bad pitch, but the batter will still swing, so because of the batters inability, the pitcher gets his K. And if it is a bad pitch, the catcher won't be penalized, the pitcher will be penalized with a wild pitch.

    And to answer your question, it's open ended, theoretically you can have an infinite amount of strikeouts without recording an out.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Wilds wrote:
    I guess the catcher could call a certain pitch and the pitcher throws it to a completely wrong spot, then it would perhaps be the pitchers fault that the catcher dropped it?


    wrong spot in the strike zone?
  • Wilds wrote:
    norm wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?


    if the pitch is in the strike zone or the batter swings at it, i'd hardly call it a bad pitch


    I guess the catcher could call a certain pitch and the pitcher throws it to a completely wrong spot, then it would perhaps be the pitchers fault that the catcher dropped it?

    That would be a wild pitch recorded to the pitcher.

    If the catcher should have made the play, then it'd be a passed ball.
  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,126
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?
    What's the answer? Isn't it infinite? Couldn't it happen evey time?
  • guacamolejoeguacamolejoe Posts: 2,396
    bazzer wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?
    What's the answer? Isn't it infinite? Couldn't it happen evey time?
    The rule doesn't apply when there is a force-out, or the catcher can drop ball intentionally and start double plays like the infield fly rule
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    DewieCox wrote:
    norm wrote:

    why should the pitcher be penalized a strikeout for the catcher's error?

    B/c it's a team game, and b/c it's not always catcher error. Sometimes it's just a bad pitch.

    I've actually used this rule as trivia. What is most strikeouts a pitcher can get in a 9 inning game?

    That's a common misconception. While there are working aspects as far as the team, the game is more individually based stat and playing wise, and each position is grouped together into a team. It's not a team sport like football where so many aspects have to work together for one play to work. In baseball an individual controls the play. It's more of a team based on community than team based on team work. Of course there's relay's, pitcher/catcher relationships, etc, but the majority of the game is based on individual ability.


    Every sport is based on individual abilities then. If the 2nd basemen and ss aren't in sync they'll turn few double plays, a good hitter can be made great with another good hitter battin around him and average hitters made good.

    Why haven't the Yankees sniffed a WS title in so long if baseball is based on indiviual abilities.
  • CreedDiseaseCreedDisease Posts: 241
    "How is it possible to get 4 strikeouts in one inning?" Obviously you have never watched me try to hit on women during a baseball game :)
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