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Who goes to shows..PJ related
Having a discussion about who attends concerts, hardcore (non first timers), or nostalgia seeking, "hey they're a big band, nothing else to do, wanna hear black types.
This came up because of the tweet. Where it was discussed, if a band needs to play new material at a concert. And Pearl Jam was brought up because their lack of album sales vs. their sold out performances don't really add up, and they could be an act like the stones and just go out and play.
This person said maybe 7,000 at most are repeat goers at any particular show (not just PJ), he goes to alot of DMB shows.
Me, not so much, but I said it seems to me that both PJ and Dave have a substantial loyal fan base, and 13,000 back catalog lovers, especially in the case of PJ when their last days of commercial success was 15-17 years ago, seemed like alot of people and time to hold on to nostalgia to sell out just about every show they do. I feel that 7,000 may be a fan club number, but not necessarily the total amount of fans that see many shows. I feel that the amount of first timers at any given show is the minority.
It just bugs me when people speak as an authority on things when they really aren't. What may be true for one band is not true for another band. If people don't want to hear come back, and get up to do something, to me, aren't necessarily just there for the hits. Almost every show has a piss break song, or people going to get a beverage or something. I don't think this is a sign of a person who is not a fan. You give the show your undivided attention, great, not everyone is the same. Yet when Alive kicks in do you act too cool for the room? or do you rock out like everyone else?
And album sales and radio play this day and age is no way to measure who's at a show. I think the number of albums that are stolen is significant, and if you added those to those actually sold, more acts would be selling multi platinum.
This came up because of the tweet. Where it was discussed, if a band needs to play new material at a concert. And Pearl Jam was brought up because their lack of album sales vs. their sold out performances don't really add up, and they could be an act like the stones and just go out and play.
This person said maybe 7,000 at most are repeat goers at any particular show (not just PJ), he goes to alot of DMB shows.
Me, not so much, but I said it seems to me that both PJ and Dave have a substantial loyal fan base, and 13,000 back catalog lovers, especially in the case of PJ when their last days of commercial success was 15-17 years ago, seemed like alot of people and time to hold on to nostalgia to sell out just about every show they do. I feel that 7,000 may be a fan club number, but not necessarily the total amount of fans that see many shows. I feel that the amount of first timers at any given show is the minority.
It just bugs me when people speak as an authority on things when they really aren't. What may be true for one band is not true for another band. If people don't want to hear come back, and get up to do something, to me, aren't necessarily just there for the hits. Almost every show has a piss break song, or people going to get a beverage or something. I don't think this is a sign of a person who is not a fan. You give the show your undivided attention, great, not everyone is the same. Yet when Alive kicks in do you act too cool for the room? or do you rock out like everyone else?
And album sales and radio play this day and age is no way to measure who's at a show. I think the number of albums that are stolen is significant, and if you added those to those actually sold, more acts would be selling multi platinum.
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Honestly, why does that bother you if someone comes to the show that isn't a huge die-hard fan? A lot of people have become huge fans after seeing PJ live for the first time. I was only a casual fan before my first show. After that, I became hooked.
Because the same people go to the whole Comcast Center's schedule. Some people go to get shitfaced I guess..that's my honest answer and that pisses me off because they aren't there for the music- There was a fight between 30 people in my high school that was "supposed to go down" at a pearl jam show. That pisses me off.
I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
that doesnt really bother me unless those people have better seats than me! cause i have a shitty 10c number but still like the whole waiting in the 10c line for them etc.
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EV:boston 1+2.albnay 1.boston 2010
ya i can see why that might get annoying. And like indifference said I know that some people go to concerts and get hooked. It's happened to people I know with pj firsthand and I think that's great. For me it's aobut the people who are there that won't appreciate the music.
the casual listeners
the curious
the folks who come to just to party
and the geeks like us
come one come all
Just put that fucking phone/camera down, stop talking and enjoy the show!
Because the same people go to the whole Comcast Center's schedule. Some people go to get shitfaced I guess..that's my honest answer and that pisses me off because they aren't there for the music- There was a fight between 30 people in my high school that was "supposed to go down" at a pearl jam show. That pisses me off.[/quote]
i go to alot of shows thier and whenever 311 plays at mansfield basically everyone i went to highschool went goes and on eyear there was a huge fight between my town and our neighboring town on the lawn. It was actually kinda fun/funny.
10/30/09.10/31/09.5/17/10.9/7/11
EV:boston 1+2.albnay 1.boston 2010
Because the same people go to the whole Comcast Center's schedule. Some people go to get shitfaced I guess..that's my honest answer and that pisses me off because they aren't there for the music- There was a fight between 30 people in my high school that was "supposed to go down" at a pearl jam show. That pisses me off.[/quote]
i go to alot of shows thier and whenever 311 plays at mansfield basically everyone i went to highschool went goes and on eyear there was a huge fight between my town and our neighboring town on the lawn. It was actually kinda fun/funny.[/quote]
It was probably Attleboro. Alotta my friends were probably in it lol. :roll: