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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    RW81233 wrote:
    This thread is kind of disheartening to read. Obama definitely needed to apologize for suggesting that his bowling was equal to the Special Olympics. That's not being Politically Correct, that's just being sensitive to others and realizing that you've made a mistake, then making strides to be a better person. That's called growing as a person, and not being a belligerant ass. Does politically correct mean that if it were correct Obama said something that was true? Does bowling poorly mean that you are somehow (dis)abled? Why wasn't it just that he was bad at bowling? Liberals defending this are embarrassing to liberal sensibilities.

    Simultaneously, however, what a freaking joke to have those who have defended W., Rush, and Imus suddenly grow a heart and brain jump on Obama's case. In other words, conservatives also need to stop conveniently forgetting history so that they continue their political argument as well. Seriously you and that neo-con Coach K are mad at Obama for filling out a bracket at the White House? Really? Let's not forget that you are the same people who rose and rejoiced in W. throwing a strike at Yankee Stadium during the 2001 World Series a month after 9/11/01 in some sort of ridiculously contrived moment with flying bald eagles, fake flags from ground zero, and god bless america being sung. You are also the same people who weren't pissed that W. was sitting at the Little League World Series 10 days before 9/11/01, and you are also the same people who loved it when W. gave a stone face to Iran (part of the "Axis of Evil"), and told the U.S. national team "let's roll" right before the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.
    ...
    It all comes down to the double edged sword that is political partisanship. It cuts both ways... either the people who were indifferent to people like Limbaugh's or Imus' remarks that jump all over Obama... or people who were enraged over Limbaugh and Imus, but dismiss Obama. The key word in this point is 'Cut'... meaning it is devisive... based upon the worst of all lines.. political partisanship. If you are really 'enraged' by either... you should be enraged by all.
    As for me... I feel all of those remarks show insensitivity. Were they wrong? I feel so. Was I enraged? Not really. I admit it... I am an insensitive jerk at times. Hey... sometimes I fuck up. When I say shit that offends somoeone, I admit it and offer up apologises.
    As for political correctness... I don't care for it because it drives people's WORDs underground, but not their true feelings. Like, I WANT the Neo-Nazis and Klansmen to speak up, so I will know who to avoid. I would perfer if they flew their flag high or wore their uniforms out on the streets, so I could easily tell who they are and what they are about. I find it laughable, as you do, when I hear the same people who brushed off Imus and Limbaugh by 'over sensitive Liberals' employ the very same tactics to the guy on the other (a.k.a. 'The Blue Team'). Just as I find it equally funny that people will offer up the same excuses for Obama that their counterparts used in defense of 'The Red Team'. It makes them look exactly the same as the people they say they hate.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Wow do we have agreement on AMT!?!? Insane.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    RW81233 wrote:
    Wow do we have agreement on AMT!?!? Insane.
    ...
    Whoda thunkit?
    Are you one of those people who do NOT see someone who has a different opinion than you as an enemy.. and merely another American who has a different view? ME TOO!!!
    I don't think Liberals 'Hate America'... and I don't believe Conservatives only love money, guns and Jesus. I don't think America is Red or Blue.... but, a mixture of both. I am loyal to the country, the principles of the Constitution and our Bill of Rights... and NOT to a political ideology. I believe ALL political pundits are entertainers who peddle their opinions to people with no opinions of their own. And I believe that those people who DO take the so-called 'experts' at their word... and who tow the party line... will tell you they do not.
    Politics is difficult and complex and cannot be explained and understood in 5 minute arguements, broadcast over the cable, by two people shouting at each other from the extreme ends of the political spectrum. But, that's where we are. We got here somehow, right? I just wish that people took politics more seriously and studied all facets of an issue, rather than echoing the arguements they've either seen on T.V. or a page or two on the InterNet.
    One of the worst statements I have ever heard was, "Support the President ... right or wrong... in time of war". I believe is supporting the President... only when he is right.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Exactly, I voted for Obama but the dude screwed up, and he should say he's sorry. Do people make mistakes? Sure. I've said some things that I wish I could have back, but instead apologize and move forward. Hopefully this can be used to help those with a disability demonstrate how they are often just as talented at sports and other things as those who are able bodied. Still it is shameful that 'bleeding heart' liberals are defending Obama when we, rightly, would never let a conservative get away with this (no one should), and shame on those conservatives who use this for their convenience. You are exactly right politics shouldn't come in the way of good behavior.
  • blondieblue227
    blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Cosmo wrote:
    One of the worst statements I have ever heard was, "Support the President ... right or wrong... in time of war". I believe is supporting the President... only when he is right.

    or rather when you think he's right. hehehehe

    reminds me....
    I feel that’s how Bush W. got elected again. I heard a lot of people say we have to support our Commander and Chief in times of war, we can’t be changing chiefs that gives the impression that we are weak.
    yeah but that's not the point. did you agree with him?
    And to me patriotism doesn’t mean always agreeing with the president.
    *~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*

  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    scb wrote:
    3. He said, "I bowled a 129... it was like special olympics or something." Now I don't know anything about bowling - in general or in the special olympics. But is it possible that this was a factual, accurate statement? I mean, what's the average score for special olympics bowling? Maybe it's 129 - who knows.

    I read this the other day, I think it's all that needs to be said on this subject, from a Special Olympian himself.
    Washington, Mar.21 : A 38-year-old Down Syndrome victim, who has been bowling for 30 years, has said President Barack Obama needs to practice more if he wants to bring his recent score of 129 anywhere close to his average of 165.

    Tim Maloney, who has won awards for his bowling in the Special Olympics, has urged Obama to focus and practice more to improve his score.

    Maloney's comment came a day after Obama had joked that his bowling ability was suitable for the Special Olympics, a comment, which invited strong criticism from the physically, visually and mentally challenged communities, as also parents and relatives of such victims and politicians.

    "Focus, take his time, and relax" were the simple-but-effective tips Maloney offered the president in a phone interview Friday with FOXNews.com from his home in suburban Milwaukee. "Keep your eyes on the alley."

    Maloney also competes in basketball, golf and track and field. In 2007, he won the gold in the 800-meter speed walk and a silver in the 400 meter speed walk at the international Special Olympics in China.

    But Maloney said he enjoys bowling most, because "I stay around my dad and my friends and loved ones."

    Maloney comes from a bowling family. His father, Larry Maloney, said he bowls a 190; his mother, Nancy bowls a 160; and his sister, Shawn, who also competes in the Special Olympics, bowls a 125.

    On his way back to Washington on Air Force One, Obama called the chairman of the Special Olympics, Tim Shriver, to say he was sorry -- even before the taped episode of the "Tonight Show" aired late Thursday night.

    Shriver accepted his apology but told FOX News on Friday that the joke still stung.
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    _ Posts: 6,657
    Jeanwah wrote:
    scb wrote:
    3. He said, "I bowled a 129... it was like special olympics or something." Now I don't know anything about bowling - in general or in the special olympics. But is it possible that this was a factual, accurate statement? I mean, what's the average score for special olympics bowling? Maybe it's 129 - who knows.

    I read this the other day, I think it's all that needs to be said on this subject, from a Special Olympian himself.
    Washington, Mar.21 : A 38-year-old Down Syndrome victim, who has been bowling for 30 years, has said President Barack Obama needs to practice more if he wants to bring his recent score of 129 anywhere close to his average of 165.

    Tim Maloney, who has won awards for his bowling in the Special Olympics, has urged Obama to focus and practice more to improve his score.

    Maloney's comment came a day after Obama had joked that his bowling ability was suitable for the Special Olympics, a comment, which invited strong criticism from the physically, visually and mentally challenged communities, as also parents and relatives of such victims and politicians.

    "Focus, take his time, and relax" were the simple-but-effective tips Maloney offered the president in a phone interview Friday with FOXNews.com from his home in suburban Milwaukee. "Keep your eyes on the alley."

    Maloney also competes in basketball, golf and track and field. In 2007, he won the gold in the 800-meter speed walk and a silver in the 400 meter speed walk at the international Special Olympics in China.

    But Maloney said he enjoys bowling most, because "I stay around my dad and my friends and loved ones."

    Maloney comes from a bowling family. His father, Larry Maloney, said he bowls a 190; his mother, Nancy bowls a 160; and his sister, Shawn, who also competes in the Special Olympics, bowls a 125.

    On his way back to Washington on Air Force One, Obama called the chairman of the Special Olympics, Tim Shriver, to say he was sorry -- even before the taped episode of the "Tonight Show" aired late Thursday night.

    Shriver accepted his apology but told FOX News on Friday that the joke still stung.

    Thanks for clearing that up for me! And I couldn't help but notice their (inappropriate?) use of the word "victim".

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