Whats going on down in Mexico?

DriftingByTheStorm · February 2009

There are new reports gallore,
Alex Jones is nutting over it,
and the patriot wires are all over the place reporting on it.

Do we have anyone with the ground truth south of the border right now?

It sounds like what we can expect in a few months ourselves.
Anyone?

State Department Travel Alert for Mexico
List of articles on Mexico situation
7 from Februrary alone
almost all from mainstream sources,
thanks infowars for bringing it all together.

TheVoiceInside · February 2009

The last I heard is that there is an unoficial War in Mexico. Pretty scary shit going between the goverment and the drug cartels. From what I have heard is that the cartels have standing armies armed to the teeth.

BinFrog · February 2009

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

There are new reports gallore,
Alex Jones is nutting over it,
and the patriot wires are all over the place reporting on it.

Do we have anyone with the ground truth south of the border right now?

It sounds like what we can expect in a few months ourselves.
Anyone?

Why are we in the US to expect law enforcement and drug cartel wars here in a few months?

blackredyellow · February 2009

TheVoiceInside wrote:

The last I heard is that there is an unoficial War in Mexico. Pretty scary shit going between the goverment and the drug cartels. From what I have heard is that the cartels have standing armies armed to the teeth.

The stuff I've read, it's like the old mob days here... the cartels pay better than the police, so they have a lot of people on the inside of mexican law enforcement.

mert · February 2009

I know there have been a rising number of Canadians assaulted and or murdered in Mexico in the past couple of years.

The only other thing I know is that there is a problem with cartels/mobs/gangs. Last fall we had a teenage exchange student from Mexico (Gina) staying with us, and one day she got a panicked phone call from her mom because someone had called her and told her that her daughter had been kidnapped. Gina kind of laughed it off, but I explained to her that people just don't get kidnapped off the street like that in Canada.... Certainly not for ransom.

Anon · February 2009

And now Eric Holder wants to reinstate the assault weapons ban under the guise that it will stop the Mexican drug cartels from killing themselves. I say arm them to the teeth and let them kill each other. Drugs are the scourge of society.

OutOfBreath · February 2009

JB811 wrote:

Drugs are the scourge of society

Not that I'm a dopehead or anything, but I'd say that it is it's illegality that is the scourge of society if we're talking violence and mobs etc. If drugs were legal, it would be a problem on par with alcoholism, and perhaps focus would shift towards treatment rather than prison for these people. It would also remove a huge chunk of the money-supply in crime. It would be a regular commodity, traded and taxed legally by drug companies.

The problem is more the war on drugs, than the drugs themselves, really.

Peace
Dan

VINNY GOOMBA · February 2009

OutOfBreath wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Drugs are the scourge of society

Not that I'm a dopehead or anything, but I'd say that it is it's illegality that is the scourge of society if we're talking violence and mobs etc. If drugs were legal, it would be a problem on par with alcoholism, and perhaps focus would shift towards treatment rather than prison for these people. It would also remove a huge chunk of the money-supply in crime. It would be a regular commodity, traded and taxed legally by drug companies.

The problem is more the war on drugs, than the drugs themselves, really.

Peace
Dan

Amen. Although, I'd hate to see it taxed. Everytime I say we should decriminalize instead of legalization in favor of it not being taxed, someone always chimes in "U CAN'T HAVE UR CAKE AND EAT IT TO!!!11! LOLZ!!"-- Man, I really hate that expression. What the fuck good is cake if you can't eat it?

Anyway I wouldn't it being taxed so long as we could grow whatever we wanted, and didn't have to get everything from drug companies and Philip Morris.

OutOfBreath · February 2009

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

OutOfBreath wrote:

JB811 wrote:

Drugs are the scourge of society

Not that I'm a dopehead or anything, but I'd say that it is it's illegality that is the scourge of society if we're talking violence and mobs etc. If drugs were legal, it would be a problem on par with alcoholism, and perhaps focus would shift towards treatment rather than prison for these people. It would also remove a huge chunk of the money-supply in crime. It would be a regular commodity, traded and taxed legally by drug companies.

The problem is more the war on drugs, than the drugs themselves, really.

Peace
Dan

Amen. Although, I'd hate to see it taxed. Everytime I say we should decriminalize instead of legalization in favor of it not being taxed, someone always chimes in "U CAN'T HAVE UR CAKE AND EAT IT TO!!!11! LOLZ!!"-- Man, I really hate that expression. What the fuck good is cake if you can't eat it?

Anyway I wouldn't it being taxed so long as we could grow whatever we wanted, and didn't have to get everything from drug companies and Philip Morris.

Everything gets taxed, man. Of course, if the substance were no longer illegal, you'd be free to make your own in your backyard if you like.

And I think drug-substances should be taxed, like tobacco and alcohol, because of the extra strain these products cause in the health system. At least here in Norway, where the state pays for health care, we also have steep taxes on alcohol and cigarettes to cover for it. At the very least, just taxed like all commodities with VATs or what have you. Of course age-limits should apply like on alcohol etc etc. There's just no same reason to single out drugs, while alcohol is distributed freely and lavishly.

Peace
Dan

soulsinging · February 2009

OutOfBreath wrote:

Not that I'm a dopehead or anything, but I'd say that it is it's illegality that is the scourge of society if we're talking violence and mobs etc. If drugs were legal, it would be a problem on par with alcoholism, and perhaps focus would shift towards treatment rather than prison for these people. It would also remove a huge chunk of the money-supply in crime. It would be a regular commodity, traded and taxed legally by drug companies.

The problem is more the war on drugs, than the drugs themselves, really.

Peace
Dan

Spot on, nothing more to be said. We had the same sort of crime here during Prohibition. Rival gang leaders killing people left and right in the streets to control the alcohol trade. Then it got legalized... when was the last time the CEO of Budweiser ordered a hit squad up to Milwaukee to make an example of Miller Lite? Put the drug dealers out of business by taking their trade away.

BinFrog · February 2009

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

Amen. Although, I'd hate to see it taxed. Everytime I say we should decriminalize instead of legalization in favor of it not being taxed, someone always chimes in "U CAN'T HAVE UR CAKE AND EAT IT TO!!!11! LOLZ!!"-- Man, I really hate that expression. What the fuck good is cake if you can't eat it?

Not to be a buzzkill, but that's not what the expression means. Essentially you can't have your cake, and in the same instance eat it too while still expecting to have the cake when you are done eating. If you have it, you are not eating it. If you eat it, you don't have it. You can't have it both ways.

Dirtie_Frank · February 2009

BinFrog wrote:

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

There are new reports gallore,
Alex Jones is nutting over it,
and the patriot wires are all over the place reporting on it.

Do we have anyone with the ground truth south of the border right now?

It sounds like what we can expect in a few months ourselves.
Anyone?

Why are we in the US to expect law enforcement and drug cartel wars here in a few months?

There have been reports that mexican cartels have been kidnapping americans families that refuse to help them bring their drugs into the US

Commy · February 2009

OutOfBreath wrote:

Not that I'm a dopehead or anything, but I'd say that it is it's illegality that is the scourge of society if we're talking violence and mobs etc. If drugs were legal, it would be a problem on par with alcoholism, and perhaps focus would shift towards treatment rather than prison for these people. It would also remove a huge chunk of the money-supply in crime. It would be a regular commodity, traded and taxed legally by drug companies.

The problem is more the war on drugs, than the drugs themselves, really.

Peace
Dan

and that's it. the US gov't gave millions of dollars to the Rand corporation to find the best way to fight the 'war on drugs'.

the answer was prevention. if you are serious about fighting drug use, and you want to see less people on drugs, the best way to do it is through education and prevention. not with apaches killing off drug cartels in columbia or through special ops to take out the supply...the best way to fight the war on drugs is with education.

tell kids the consequences of a cocaine addiction, chances are they'll think twice before trying. I would have.

thing is the war on drugs has been used just like all the pretexts before...it was a war on communism, a war on terrorism, a war on drugs. the result is always the same. its a chance for the authorities to go after dissidents. in colombia it was a war on the idea that the majority of the population ought to benefit from the resources of that area. neo-capitalism won, now its peaceful and prosperous-in economic terms-but the idea that the poor should benefit from the country's vast resources has died.

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