Binaural Remastered??
Since they announced the re-release of the catalog, a lot of people have been talking about remastering Binaural. I don't get it. First off the album is only 9 years old. Second, Tchad Blake only mixed the following tracks:
Nothing as it Seems, Of the Girl, Rival, Sleight of Hand, Soon Forget.
Breakerfall, God's Dice, Evacuation, Light Years, Thin Air, Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways were mixed by Brendan O'Brien. I figure he had his hand in it more than Tchad on the mixing part and it shows.
I will admit I absolutely hated this record when it first came out but the more I hear it now, the more I love it. I just hope that on the later albums they don't try and remaster every song. Just maybe add a few extra songs and a DVD or Live show on vinyl or something. Ten is the exception but I think all the others sound great.
Nothing as it Seems, Of the Girl, Rival, Sleight of Hand, Soon Forget.
Breakerfall, God's Dice, Evacuation, Light Years, Thin Air, Insignificance, Grievance, and Parting Ways were mixed by Brendan O'Brien. I figure he had his hand in it more than Tchad on the mixing part and it shows.
I will admit I absolutely hated this record when it first came out but the more I hear it now, the more I love it. I just hope that on the later albums they don't try and remaster every song. Just maybe add a few extra songs and a DVD or Live show on vinyl or something. Ten is the exception but I think all the others sound great.
He who forgets will be destined to remember.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
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think of it like this....
if you were to re-mix a cake, you'd take all the ingredients and change the proportions of each (2 cups of flour instead of 1, etc.)
if you were to re-master a cake, you'd take the existing cake and put it on a really nice new plate, maybe touch up the frosting. same cake, just looks better and more appealing.
the remix process in music would be to take the pre-exisitng tracks and reset all the levels,panning, effects, etc.
re-mastering basically just re-sets (re: increases) the apparent volume and compression on an existing mix...
recorded music has changed a lot over the last 10 years.... unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with over-use of compression to make everything louder.
thus endeth the lesson. : )
You aren't by chance....what was is Strat '62 from the old board are you?
Anyway, its nice to see some more Minneapolis people represented here! I swear there aren't enough of us here!
good to "meet" you too... cheers!
hey, thanks for the tutorial. I honestly wasn't positive of the differences. Good to know.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
Binaural gets much love and stays in heavy rotation round these parts!
Strat was banned from the board. He used to live in Minneapolis but moved to Colorado. Not sure if he wants me telling people this but it's pretty general information. He is missed greatly here.
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Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
MSG 1 + 2 - '03
Boston Garden - '04
Montreal - '05
Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
Mansfield 1 - '08
(EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
Chicago 1 - '09
MSG -'10
Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
Central Park - '15
MSG - '16
Fenway - '16
Wrigley - '16
(RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
Fenway - '18
MSG - '22
MSG 1 - '24
Various reasons.
Modernizing volume sounds ominous to me. Vs- no Code sound great as they are. We're not talking about old CCR albums or anything. New albums give me headaches!
like... he cyber-stalked and molested somebody from the board? or just tried to incite arguments all the time? or did he offer to sell bootlegs or something?
i hear you on the headaches issue.... unfortunately, it is difficult to go back now.... the volume levels has grown in small increments, bands want their new cd's to "compete" volume wise with the new Tool record or whatever and dynamics suffer as a result.
Which I absolutely HATE! :x :evil:
Louder doesn't always equal better especially when it compromises the dynamics of the music. :(
The vinyl makes the difference, although a 180 gram pressing wouldn't go a miss.
CD remasters just seem to be a excuse to make the mix louder, The loudness of CD's is ridiculous now, don't the record companies think we've got a volume control.
Noted sound engineers have already commented that the loudness doesn't necessarily equate to better quality.
To think some people think CD is better than vinyl because it's louder.
A 180 of Vs & Yield are the real prize for me though.
*EDIT Just read the billboard article... looks like they are recording to tape this time.
Yeah remastering the analogue tapes for vinyl would be best, great news if they are recording to tape.
I'd love to see them take a new direction, I don't think they've copied any previous album the difference in each album has been more subtle than say Joshua Tree to Achtung Baby, I'd love to see them experiment a bit more like they did in the 90's.
Inside Job showed them going down a Floydy type vibe, I think it's time they made more of a jump with their development not as subtle as usual and I think the new album should see a more seismic shift than usual.
I enjoyed the last album loads but a track like Come Back I could have done without, I'd just like to see more of an evolution this time.
Doesn't the self-titled album crackle for you as well?
A bit suspicious about the "put to tape"-phrase about the recording of the new album,...
If you mean this article: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/pea ... 9154.story
"After laying down some instrumental beds last summer, additional demos were put to tape in December, and the band's non-singing members formulated another batch of material during a recent trip to Montana".
I don't know who the writer quotes about putting demos to tape, but I have a feeling that they might use some sort of tape machines to put demos on, but when they actually record the tracks for the new album I believe they record it digitally :( . "Putting to tape" might also just be an expression of recording music, may it be to analog tape or digital recording.
I remember some discussion about Binaural being the last record they recorded in the old analog ways? or something like that, and that it is the last to benefit truly of a vinyl release to a cd. Can someone put a link to this thread?
I think vinyl sounds better due to warmth, dynamic range and the whole vinyl experience even though the recordings are digital.
Can only think of The White Stripes, The Raconteurs, the Black Keys and their singer/guitarist Dan Auerbach's solo record being recorded on analog tape what comes to newer releases. Yes and Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminal album Lifeline: “The record, entitled Lifeline, was recorded and mixed in 7 days on a 16 track analog tape machine. There were no computers or pro-tools used anywhere in the process.” - Ben Harper
They recorded it live in a studio in Paris and he proved that you don't need pro-tools to make great music nowadays.
I don't know if Pearl Jam uses pro-tools and since when? Maybe they started after Binaural?
The gatefold (ha ha vinyl) of Lost Dogs shows rows upon rows of tapes on the shelf(dating 1990-2004) so I'd say it's safe to assume that every Pearl Jam album thus far has been recorded to tape.
At the very least all of their vinyl has been cut from an annalog source. Thank Christ!! the vinyl would be useless if taken from a digital transfer.
Ye Gods!! Imagine Vitalogy" "No Code", or "Binuaral" being cut from a digital source? that shit would sound absolutle vile!!