Man I'm in a bind

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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    how is this a "therapy session for myself"??? how??? that is absolutely ridiculous.

    when people say things that are improper or offensive or discriminatory in some way, I'm gonna call them out on it. I DID NOT "turn" the thread into anything. You and everyone else can respond to whatever parts of his post you want- I responded to the part I wanted to. You and everyone else do not have to respond to ME. Sorry for wanting to discuss something MORE IMPORTANT.

    Sorry, but that sounded like a John McEnroe rant against a referee (perhaps even a FEMALE referee) at the U.S. open!
    :)
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    I'm not talking about my education, i'm just saying there's no evidence to support his claim.

    and sorry, I don't care what his post was "asking" for, if you write something on a public message board, it's open for scrutiny. period. he wrote the words in question, I didn't.

    I think his only claim was that he feels he should be providing financially for his family.

    Whatever the reason behind his feeling, it is not the point of this post and not really worth arguing about, in my opinion.
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    Stone Is God wrote:
    That's exactly how AG feels, only he's a guy. I don't think his point was keeping his wife home barefoot and pregnant. He is just trying to make a choice between help supporting his family by either working or staying home.



    I'm not saying that, doesn't anyone get that? I know all about his choice, but HE'S the one that brought gender roles into it, not me. I'm saying that GENDER ROLES SHOULD NOT PLAY A ROLE IN THIS DECISION. If they do play a role in his way of thinking about the problem, then he is thinking in sexist terms.

    and women feel comfortable working and bringing home the bacon just as much. it has NOTHING TO DO with being man, that is one of my key points.
  • mookie9999
    mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:

    and women feel comfortable working and bringing home the bacon just as

    I once dated a kosher girl who refused to bring home the bacon. That was the end of that relationship.
    "The leads are weak!"

    "The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"

    "What's your name?"

    "FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    The Champ wrote:
    What claim?

    that women are better at raising kids. he said that somewhere above, followed by "is that wrong to say" and I'm saying "yes, it is, there have been many studies to that effect and the literature does not support it."
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Mine is, dammit! I baked exceptional anise/almond biscotti this morning. Hard as nails, and perfect. I'm telcommuting today. I was able to stay at home, bake and work - yippee!

    My brother's a stay-at-home dad and from growing up you'd never think that it was something he'd considered. However, both he and his wife evaluated their finances, evaluated her earning potential (BIG!) and his (small) and realized it made financial sense for him to stay home. Also, they were able to have one stay-at-home parent. He is a construction worker, and he cooks exceptional grilled asparagus.

    Ms Haiku... you are a goddess! :D Looks like it might run in the family too!
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    mookie9999 wrote:
    I once dated a kosher girl who refused to bring home the bacon. That was the end of that relationship.

    Now you are a sexist and an anti-semite!
    :)

    I am a jew, and I love bacon!
  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    mookie9999 wrote:
    I once dated a kosher girl who refused to bring home the bacon. That was the end of that relationship.

    Ah man that one got me. :D
    I love to turn you on
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    I think his only claim was that he feels he should be providing financially for his family.

    no, above he said that he thinks women are better at raising children, I was saying there's no evidence to support this claim.
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    Whatever the reason behind his feeling, it is not the point of this post and not really worth arguing about, in my opinion.

    then what's the point of even talking at all? some things are important to society, and you have to jump on them when you have a chance.
  • Trailer
    Trailer Posts: 1,431
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    I'm not talking about my education, i'm just saying there's no evidence to support his claim.

    and sorry, I don't care what his post was "asking" for, if you write something on a public message board, it's open for scrutiny. period. he wrote the words in question, I didn't.

    fair enough... from what I've read tho it seems like you feel you're superior to stay-at-home moms because you're out there working on big problems and using your master's degree. I mean, if you saw a sexist statement from acoustic guy's original post.. then this is the statements that I saw from your posts.
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • mookie9999
    mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Now you are a sexist and an anti-semite!
    :)

    I am a jew, and I love bacon!

    Well if your name wasn't Joe we could date! Unless it's "Joe" as in Jo from the Facts of Life. Then we have a shot! ;):D
    "The leads are weak!"

    "The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"

    "What's your name?"

    "FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
  • GreenTeaDisease
    GreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    Trailer wrote:
    fair enough... from what I've read tho it seems like you feel you're superior to stay-at-home moms because you're out there working on big problems and using your master's degree. I mean, if you saw a sexist statement from acoustic guy's original post.. then this is the statements that I saw from your posts.

    I didn't say anything about being superior. I was saying that I agreed with him that I would have the same exact feelings as him if I were raising a kid instead of working at home. those are my feelings as well as his, even though I'm a woman, to argue that his feelings do not stem from being a man. other people, male and female, do not have those feelings, and the ones that can financially, may choose to stay at home. that is exactly what I said in my post.
  • The Champ
    The Champ Posts: 4,063
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    that women are better at raising kids. he said that somewhere above, followed by "is that wrong to say" and I'm saying "yes, it is, there have been many studies to that effect and the literature does not support it."

    I'm sure the studies are valid. But come on, just between you and me, how do you really feel in your gut?
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • Brain of J.Lo
    Brain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    no, above he said that he thinks women are better at raising children, I was saying there's no evidence to support this claim.



    then what's the point of even talking at all? some things are important to society, and you have to jump on them when you have a chance.

    On your first point, I had thought he only said that he felt his wife personally would be better staying home with his daughter. I might be wrong. I don't want to go back and dig...lol.

    On your second point...I just meant that, in the context of this thread and acoustic guy's intention while making it....it's pointless to argue the reason his his feelings about child-rearing, as a discussion on a message board isn't likely to change that.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Well if your name wasn't Joe we could date! Unless it's "Joe" as in Jo from the Facts of Life. Then we have a shot! ;):D

    Well, when I dress in drag, I drop the E from my name!

    Whaddaya say there, Jerky; paint the town, night on the town?
  • Trailer
    Trailer Posts: 1,431
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    I didn't say anything about being superior. I was saying that I agreed with him that I would have the same exact feelings as him if I were raising a kid instead of working at home. those are my feelings as well as his, even though I'm a woman, to argue that his feelings do not stem from being a man. other people, male and female, do not have those feelings, and the ones that can financially, may choose to stay at home. that is exactly what I said in my post.

    okay.. i don't remember you saying you agree with him, but whatever i'm over it.
    Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    your mother in law is ALWAYS available to watch the kid? you have been spoiled! (also kids need to be exposed to people outside their own family on a regular basis-it's called socializing. same thing you do with dogs).

    I would be a fantastic parent (except I'd have trouble with the cooking part, but that's about it). News flash, I have BEEN the other person watching the kid. I was nanny in college, so yes, I know that children can be watched by other people and will not die.

    you ARE providing for your family by watching the kid. It's so sexist to say that's "role reversal." Your kid has half your DNA, so you can watch her just as well as your wife could. there are no "roles" when I comes to gender/watching kids. that's all social construction.

    I'd love to know why people don't get banned for posts like this when I got banned for calling someone an idiot once.

    No, I honestly think you would not be a fantastic parent. You are waaaay too self absorbed for that. Also, are you aware from up there on your soapbox that you are talking to a guy who is a stay-home-dad? Are you?
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • Lesbelges
    Lesbelges Posts: 434
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    exactly, and my point is, I would want to work too. I would go nuts stuck in the house looking after a little kid every single day, not earning money, not being on a team
    Saying that raising kids and taking care of the house is not being part of the team is saying that whoever is raising the kids is not contributing for the family which is just ridiculous!!

    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    It's like getting a dog because you like to play fetch at the beach on weekends, but then expecting someone else get up at 5am to walk it and pick up its poop.

    ...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
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  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    acoustic guy wrote:
    I believe that a woman can do everything a man can do.I don't think her place is in the kitchen by any means. But, I feel that a woman has a softer touch when it comes to raising a child. Is that wrong to say? I think I do a awesome job raising my daughter, but I know my wife would be better.


    Because she is a woman?

    "a woman has a softer touch" is a little sexist, I'll agree.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    The Champ wrote:
    Considering the source, I can't be the only one busting up laughing right about now ;)..
    You aren't for sure.
    :p

    Accoustic, let me say that I wrestled with this idea when mine was around 2. Alot of it was more about ME not wanting to leave HIM. :) I am sure she will be fine. It is so difficult when you are around them so much. It will be a change for both of you, but it could also be a good change for both of you.
    Good luck with your decision.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away

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