i've turned into a cynic

nothingman44
nothingman44 Posts: 1,496
edited November 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
I've turned into a cynical fucker lately. Outside of my friends, and they know who they are, I believe everyone in this world has ulterior motives for their actions. I understand everyone has to look out for their own well-being, but if that comes at the expense of making someone else look like a fool or tossing someone under the bus, those that lead people on for their own gain are absolutely useless to me. The easiest way to go about something is by being honest, no matter how brutal it may be. There is no need to drag someone along and play stupid games. Bottom line...say what you mean, and mean what you say.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    i became a cynic the minute reagan was sworn in as president. :)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Good, we need more on the MT.

    I try to be honest. I fight against dualism because dualism is against my philosophy. I fight for compassion so that people will have compassion for me too. Everything I do is ultimately selfish, it's the only way to motivate such an organism as a human being. But I enjoy the illusion that it's actual altruism and it feels like I geniunely care about others. That's the reward for being a selfish fucker.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,390
    nothingman44 wrote:
    I've turned into a cynical fucker lately. Outside of my friends, and they know who they are, I believe everyone in this world has ulterior motives for their actions. I understand everyone has to look out for their own well-being, but if that comes at the expense of making someone else look like a fool or tossing someone under the bus, those that lead people on for their own gain are absolutely useless to me. The easiest way to go about something is by being honest, no matter how brutal it may be. There is no need to drag someone along and play stupid games. Bottom line...say what you mean, and mean what you say.
    The older I get the more friendlier people seem to be. I wonder if it's a reflection in how I act or just how I perceive other people. Probably both. When I thought all men were potential rapists I acted scared around them, and at the ready to defend myself. Then, luckily, I met many men who were just good good people. What an eye opener. Kindof fun when joy and genuine good will entered my experience of the world.
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • itsevobaby
    itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    i hear ya, me too. i try to look for the best in people, but after you get fuck over time & time again it's hard not to see the world for what it is, or what it can be. i still consider myself an optimist but you've got to keep naivety from creeping in. i think it's called growing up :)
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  • nothingman44
    nothingman44 Posts: 1,496
    itsevobaby wrote:
    i hear ya, me too. i try to look for the best in people, but after you get fuck over time & time again it's hard not to see the world for what it is, or what it can be. i still consider myself an optimist but you've got to keep naivety from creeping in. i think it's called growing up :)

    exactly...

    i always looked for the best in people and given the benefit of the doubt more times than not. but i've been fucked over too many times.

    when you realize who someone really is, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    itsevobaby wrote:
    i hear ya, me too. i try to look for the best in people, but after you get fuck over time & time again it's hard not to see the world for what it is, or what it can be. i still consider myself an optimist but you've got to keep naivety from creeping in. i think it's called growing up :)

    I agree with that except I personally was BORN a cynic. I'm trying to train myself not to be.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    I agree with that except I personally was BORN a cynic.


    i very much doubt that, its just too hard to believe!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    dunkman wrote:
    i very much doubt that, its just too hard to believe!

    Not sure what you meant by that. *Scatches head*. :D

    I must be being cynical because I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not!
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    I agree with that except I personally was BORN a cynic. I'm trying to train myself not to be.

    From what I know about you, compare the shit I come out with daily with some of the stuff you've said to make me see sense, and you haven't got a cynical bone in your body.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    From what I know about you, compare the shit I come out with daily with some of the stuff you've said to make me see sense, and you haven't got a cynical bone in your body.

    Thanks! I'm bleedin' fantastic, I am! ;)

    P.S. Are you trying to start a fight with me? ;)
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    Thanks! I'm bleedin' fantastic, I am! ;)

    P.S. Are you trying to start a fight with me? ;)

    Yeah I FUCKIN am, you got a problem with that missy?
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    The older I get the more friendlier people seem to be. I wonder if it's a reflection in how I act or just how I perceive other people. Probably both. When I thought all men were potential rapists I acted scared around them, and at the ready to defend myself. Then, luckily, I met many men who were just good good people. What an eye opener. Kindof fun when joy and genuine good will entered my experience of the world.
    The way I see it, as we get older, we tend to not worry so much about what other people think, regarding the way we dress, who we hang out with. For me, I have become more cerebral and I seek out people to stimulate my mind. I am not so cynical as I have already figured out everyone can't be trusted so I just go about my own business.
    I also believe that you get back what you put out there. I realize my motives for wanting to befriend certain people as more being "what can we do for each other" rather than "what can this person do for me".
    Or what can I do to make that person's life easier or happier?
    I have mellowed out so much...lol.
    Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
    And I don't feel right when you're gone away
  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    I invented the word cynic.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,045
    nothingman44 wrote:
    Bottom line...say what you mean, and mean what you say.
    anyone who as ever met me knows one thing.....

    i have NEVER in my life had a problem saying what is on my mind.....i have also NEVER had a problem confronting people who i feel are lying pieces of shit......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,390
    nuffingman wrote:
    I invented the word cynic.
    Well, then uninvent it. Unless it does a body good. ;)
    There is no such thing as leftover pizza. There is now pizza and later pizza. - anonymous
    The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math - The Mincing Mockingbird
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    nothingman44 wrote:
    I've turned into a cynical fucker lately. Outside of my friends, and they know who they are, I believe everyone in this world has ulterior motives for their actions. I understand everyone has to look out for their own well-being, but if that comes at the expense of making someone else look like a fool or tossing someone under the bus, those that lead people on for their own gain are absolutely useless to me. The easiest way to go about something is by being honest, no matter how brutal it may be. There is no need to drag someone along and play stupid games. Bottom line...say what you mean, and mean what you say.

    it's better to be cynical, at least when someone is being honest and doing something good for you, you can really appreciate it.

    i don't know whether i'm cynical, or a fuck up or just totally of my rocker today, but it does amazes me when people ( especially strangers ) are good & respectful towards me
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    nothingman44 wrote:
    I've turned into a cynical fucker lately. Outside of my friends, and they know who they are, I believe everyone in this world has ulterior motives for their actions. I understand everyone has to look out for their own well-being, but if that comes at the expense of making someone else look like a fool or tossing someone under the bus, those that lead people on for their own gain are absolutely useless to me. The easiest way to go about something is by being honest, no matter how brutal it may be. There is no need to drag someone along and play stupid games. Bottom line...say what you mean, and mean what you say.

    eh, you're not a cynic. once you realize that your friends also have ulterior motives and so does anyone who claims to love you aside from maybe your parents (maybe), then you've become a cynic. though i think the proper term is realism.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    soulsinging wrote:
    eh, you're not a cynic. once you realize that your friends also have ulterior motives and so does anyone who claims to love you aside from maybe your parents (maybe), then you've become a cynic. though i think the proper term is realism.

    of course, it's like my directing manager, i spoke with him about quiting my job, and he said not to do any rush decisions, he said he will speak to me first......he also added that "you're part of our family now, and i love you"

    btw....he's a Christian...but i know he's saving his own ass....because if i go that will mean that as a directing manager he didn't do his job properly by employing someone like me.

    whatever he said to me is pure bollocks
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    nothingman44 wrote:
    Outside of my friends, and they know who they are, I believe everyone in this world has ulterior motives for their actions.

    Quite a statement. You should really get over yourself.
  • genie
    genie Posts: 2,222
    Derrick wrote:
    Quite a statement. You should really get over yourself.

    what a way to make someone less paranoid :rolleyes:

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