Musically challenged people

jammerfall
jammerfall Posts: 908
edited August 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
I don't know, maybe I need to to learn to chill the hell out.

I get an invite from the owners of a wine distributing company that I do work with. They were having their usual summer bash at their home. Sounded good. The couple that own the business are sweet, friendly people. I know how to avoid the usual wine snobs in attendance and I knew there would be a fine supply of drink flowing, so why not go. Outdoors, bbq'd salmon on the menu, good way to spend a Saturday evening.

After a couple of hours and couple glasses of vino later a few of us stumbled inside and decide to, with approval from the host and hostess, put in the Rolling Stones' "Shine A Light" dvd. Ok, I know the drill: Keith looks like death (fair enough), Mick sounds like crap (not totally fair), their so old (duh), and so on. I mean, really, state the obvious and move along. I've neen listening to the Rolling Stones pretty much since I was born. Granted, I have a good laugh at their wrinkles like the next person. I also have, as a music fan, a huge amount of respect for the incredible legacy of this band.

So, as I hang out with this group of 6 or 7 people chatting and giving their inane opinions of the (band) movie I can't help but get this incredible urge tell them all to shut the fuck up! Give the Stones at least a few props for still giving a shit to put on a show and make some good music. And yes, I do mean good music; A Bigger Bang is a good record.

I realize that life isn't one big Pearl Jam message board where we're all brought together by the same passion, but still, I just don't know how to deal with people's criticisms of bands or musicians when they have no real passion or knowledge of the subject. I mean there was even this women there that said "I think Mick sounded better when he was younger because he looked better." Hello, stupid!?

I did make it out alive with a goody bag that contains a couple bottles of good merlot, crackers, and a couple of pears. Asian pears I think. Score.

And I did cop a really good buzz. ;)

But those people....
"Hello Oregonians. Hello Washingtonians. Hello Portland..where the fuck are we? We're in Ridgefield!"
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Musical preference does not equal musically challenged.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    know1 wrote:
    Musical preference does not equal musically challenged.
    This.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    When I read this forum, I see people appraising bands on the basis of their technical competence as musicians. When I read another forum, it's full of punks who see technical competence as a lack of talent, where having an original gift would be "having something to say" in an aggressive manner irrespective of how it sounds. Each side would see the other as musically challenged, because the view of what constitutes music (competence vs. making a racket that has social relevance to today's world, maaaaan) is so divergent. Personally, I hate most punk music and fans, as I find them ludricously snobbish: you know, the people who pretend to like Crass and the like. That having been said, I don't like bands to sound so competent that they could be muzak session musicians, phoning in their respective parts.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Here's some Crass, to prove my point:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w5AxET519E


    How deep, maaaaan.



    Now, here's some musical competence, to balance out the ying and the ying tong:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pJCB9ldXq4
  • Slip Kid
    Slip Kid Posts: 1,175
    know1 wrote:
    Musical preference does not equal musically challenged.

    End of discussion
    I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    In situations like that, I avoid the topic of music all together. It's less painful.

    Enjoy the people for their other interests.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Slip Kid wrote:
    End of discussion


    Whenever I see comments like this on any thread, on any topic, I'm almost tempted to play devil's advocate and take the most controversial position I can, to start the discussion in earnest.
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Whenever I see comments like this on any thread, on any topic, I'm almost tempted to play devil's advocate and take the most controversial position I can, to start the discussion in earnest.


    Do it, do it, do it... :D
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  • Slip Kid
    Slip Kid Posts: 1,175
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Whenever I see comments like this on any thread, on any topic, I'm almost tempted to play devil's advocate and take the most controversial position I can, to start the discussion in earnest.

    Well obviously there is going to be more dialogue about this subject. know1 simple got straight to the point and I agreed.

    I think discussing music is a hard because everyone has different tastes.
    I just don't trust anything that bleeds for five days and doesn't die.
  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Beauty lays within the eye of the beholder.
    Music lives in the ears of the beholder.
    Opinions fall out of the arse of the beholder.
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • jammerfall
    jammerfall Posts: 908
    know1 wrote:
    Musical preference does not equal musically challenged.
    Preference I understand. Judging someone musically on their looks, that I don't understand. Yapping about the make of a guitar when you readily admit that you don't even know the difference between a bass and a six stringer. I don't get it. And when someone makes a statement like "where did they find this Buddy Guy dude, anyway?" I mean come on. Maybe I should have titled this thread Socially Challenged People.
    Slip Kid wrote:
    End of discussion
    Why, thanks for your input. ;)
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Whenever I see comments like this on any thread, on any topic, I'm almost tempted to play devil's advocate and take the most controversial position I can, to start the discussion in earnest.
    Heh, heh. Thanks, Mr. Carrots.
    "Hello Oregonians. Hello Washingtonians. Hello Portland..where the fuck are we? We're in Ridgefield!"
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    know1 wrote:
    Musical preference does not equal musically challenged.


    when you listen to My Chemical Fallout Romance Boy....yes


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    When I hear the term musically challenged, the term Nickleback fan springs to mind.
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    At these get togethers it's usually preferable not to get involved in a music discussion, you'll get hit with the usual Eagles and Phil Collins talk :rolleyes: but then saying that, I struggle to justify or even understand some of my musical interests at times, I mean take yesterday for example, I drove 90 minutes without a break and along the way I went from Johnny Cash to Damien Rice to Metallica, and arrived home to the sound of Tom Petty...I don't really know why I like all those bands, but I do, and that's all that matters to me.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    justam wrote:
    In situations like that, I avoid the topic of music all together. It's less painful.

    Enjoy the people for their other interests.

    Bingo.

    Most of my friends dont like the kinds of music i listen to AT ALL. Theyve even come to shows and bitched the whole way through....its just a taste thing. On the flipside im sure they hate it when i go on nights out and bitch about the crap music in the clubs they go to!

    its never nice to listen to people who cant see the beauty in something you like, so just avoid it.
  • _Crazy_Mary_
    _Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    first you mention 'wine snobs' and then 'good merlot' as if you'd know. Sorry, sounds to me like you're the one that's challenged...
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    jammerfall wrote:
    Judging someone musically on their looks, that I don't understand. Yapping about the make of a guitar when you readily admit that you don't even know the difference between a bass and a six stringer. I don't get it. And when someone makes a statement like "where did they find this Buddy Guy dude, anyway?" I mean come on. Maybe I should have titled this thread Socially Challenged People.

    actually, this is the exact type of shit i listen to from my friends.

    last night....Bitchin incessantly about a song that doesnt have lyrics about dancing / a girl...."who the fuck does he think he is writing about that"
    You ask "writing about what?"
    They respond, " I duno, i dont know the words!".....
    I just stood there...."uhm.....ok?"

    that anal crap can wreck your brain.
  • jammerfall
    jammerfall Posts: 908
    _Crazy_Mary_ wrote:
    first you mention 'wine snobs' and then 'good merlot' as if you'd know. Sorry, sounds to me like you're the one that's challenged...

    Gee, let's see, the owner of the distributing company told me they were good bottles of merlot, just so you know.
    "Hello Oregonians. Hello Washingtonians. Hello Portland..where the fuck are we? We're in Ridgefield!"
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    jammerfall wrote:
    I don't know, maybe I need to to learn to chill the hell out.

    I get an invite from the owners of a wine distributing company that I do work with. They were having their usual summer bash at their home. Sounded good. The couple that own the business are sweet, friendly people. I know how to avoid the usual wine snobs in attendance and I knew there would be a fine supply of drink flowing, so why not go. Outdoors, bbq'd salmon on the menu, good way to spend a Saturday evening.

    After a couple of hours and couple glasses of vino later a few of us stumbled inside and decide to, with approval from the host and hostess, put in the Rolling Stones' "Shine A Light" dvd. Ok, I know the drill: Keith looks like death (fair enough), Mick sounds like crap (not totally fair), their so old (duh), and so on. I mean, really, state the obvious and move along. I've neen listening to the Rolling Stones pretty much since I was born. Granted, I have a good laugh at their wrinkles like the next person. I also have, as a music fan, a huge amount of respect for the incredible legacy of this band.

    So, as I hang out with this group of 6 or 7 people chatting and giving their inane opinions of the (band) movie I can't help but get this incredible urge tell them all to shut the fuck up! Give the Stones at least a few props for still giving a shit to put on a show and make some good music. And yes, I do mean good music; A Bigger Bang is a good record.

    I realize that life isn't one big Pearl Jam message board where we're all brought together by the same passion, but still, I just don't know how to deal with people's criticisms of bands or musicians when they have no real passion or knowledge of the subject. I mean there was even this women there that said "I think Mick sounded better when he was younger because he looked better." Hello, stupid!?

    I did make it out alive with a goody bag that contains a couple bottles of good merlot, crackers, and a couple of pears. Asian pears I think. Score.

    And I did cop a really good buzz. ;)

    But those people....

    you were at a do for wine people what did you expect?. that whole industry is based on varying degrees of wankery. :D
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    catefrances wrote:
    you were at a do for wine people what did you expect?. that whole industry is based on varying degrees of wankery.


    :D:D:D Pass the $2 buck chuck would ya love, I'll go whack on the Chisel. ;):D
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