Irving Plaza vs The Vic Theater

camaros
camaros Posts: 1,003
edited February 2008 in The Porch
Irving Plaza VS The Vic Theater

I know the Vic was more recent, but it seems that there as been an infinite amount more discussion about the Vic show 2007-08-02 compared to the Irving plaza show from 2006-05-05. I know Irving lacked a poster, but come on....

People want Vic DVDs and Vic Vinyls.... is it just a Chicago VS New York thing or am I missing something here. Irving fuckin RULED

I went to the Irving show and it was pretty much the coolest thing ever. Being there in the front almost made up for all the shows I missed out on during pearl jam's career.

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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    i can only speak for the vic show, but it was INCREDIBLE!

    i know that alot of fans that have been to dozens of shows and had an opportunity to sit front row alot thought the setlist wasnt that great and blah blah blah... but for me it was the most incredible experience ever... my eyes literally teared up at one point out of sheer joy... it was the culmination of years of being a fan... i caught matt's wristband at the end of the show!... i got a mccready pick!... they opened with all or none!... i was so close to the band!... the energy was phenomenal!...

    i think it probably combined with the energy of the weekend as a whole too... people were pumped about lolla... you could tell the band was excited to be playing again to a crowd of all true fans and even more excited at the opportunity to play to so many at lolla.... the venue was incredible for a PJ show... soooo much fun

    i think the poster for the show sucked so that doesnt impact my opinion at all... it was just easily the best experience ill ever have a PJ show... (front row at lolla was good too, but i almost died of dehydration getting that)
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  • jezebeloria
    jezebeloria Posts: 600
    1 word...setlist. Vic's was phenominal.
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  • poto101
    poto101 Posts: 447
    bad setlist????

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    it was their rarest show ever (based on the songs they played), and in hidng was fucking incredible.

    eddie opening for the band was pretty sweet, ben harper came on stage, BLACK DIAMOND WITH MATT SINGING.



    i'm sure irving plaza was an awesome time, as would any show in a venue that small, but based on setlists and sound from bootlegs, The Vic is the winner. yes there is biased but i still think it was more epic show than Irving.
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  • Detroit2NYC
    Detroit2NYC New York, NY Posts: 337
    I was at both shows and both were amazing. I think maybe the reason Vic gets more buzz is because of the rare setlist.

    Also, it seemed that Eddie was really into playing in Chicago. Not that he wasn't excited for IP, but there was a different twinkle in his eye.

    That being said, I think anyone should be lucky to have been to either show. They were both special treats for us all!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Vic :)
  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    not to insult a show you attended (because it still looks fantastic) but how come this is being compared to the vic? was this an all fanclub show too or something? and though it looks like a great set, it can't touch the vic. i wasn't at either, but if i had to choose to attend one of them, without even a second of thought i'd say the vic. both look fantastic though.
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  • goodroc
    goodroc Posts: 118
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!
  • edwf2000
    edwf2000 Posts: 95
    goodroc wrote:
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!

    I too was at both and I think they were both great for different reasons. I don't think I could definitively choose one over the other
  • stpmattb
    stpmattb Posts: 958
    goodroc wrote:
    i was lucky enough to be at both --- not even close


    Vic hands down!!


    I was also at both and still get goosebumps listening to the Vic show. Irving Plaza was really cool, but not as cool as the Vic.
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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,950
    I am a rare song freak, I don't think many shows if any can compare to the concentration and scarcity of the songs played at the VIC. I was not at IP, but hearing it, the Vic just seems to have far more energy.

    The venue and small amount of rabid fans made the Vic a once in a lifetime show. I was probably the 100th in the venue, got a poster first and still got into the front row/second row(kind of a little of both) right in front of Mike.
    Other than way too many flashes and fuckers holding camera phones up in the way of everybodys view, that show was just about as perfect as it can get for me.

    I vote for the VIC
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,983
    Gotta disagree with everyone. I was at both. Irving was better. Sure the vic had the setlist, that's what everyone raves about. But Irving had the energy, they were ready to start off a tour and raring to go with their best album since yield, the new engine of PJ! The crowd interaction was 100X more at Irving, Stone threw out pics there, he hardly looked at the crowd at the vic. Eddie gave us the option of betterman vs solat, and even came in the crowd during porch. Sure Irving didn't get a pre set but the show was phenomal. Plus I love seeing PJ rock out Animal and Life Wasted and WWS, I missed Animal so much after the vic and lolla.

    But that's just me and I could be wrong (but I'm not). Irving was just hands down a better live show, everyone just goes crazy over the setlist, look at Benny and Boston.

    And the topper, people in NY actually know what a rocking General Admission show is all about, people at the vic actually tried to leave and come back to threir spots on the floor like they owned them, or save spots for people getting posters.
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    And the winner is......








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  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,983
    SOLAT319 wrote:
    Totally Irving Plaza!!!

    That version of Garden is absolutely priceless!
    I can't believe I almost forgot about GARDEN, it was AMAZING!! Man I gotta listen to this show again.
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  • camaros
    camaros Posts: 1,003
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    not to insult a show you attended (because it still looks fantastic) but how come this is being compared to the vic?

    i compare them because i think the venues have about the same capacity (very small)... compared to the huge stadium/arena shows. I'm too lazy to check right now how many each hold.

    but i guess i just have such a high regard for that irving show but it didn't really get much attention here. no poster, no boot, no crazy rarities besides having the first live 'come back' which was sweet.

    wish i was at vic too, but i have to let the rest of you jammers attend some of the good shows...
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  • snipes824
    snipes824 Posts: 870
    irving by far.
  • camaros
    camaros Posts: 1,003
    October22 wrote:
    irving
    this guy has no idea....
    i like sound...
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,950
    well I just listened to tracks from both, and the Vic got my blood sausage bloated so I say again the Vic.

    is there really a way to answer this? Lets say they both totally kicked ass
  • mookie9999
    mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    a5pj wrote:
    Gotta disagree with everyone. I was at both. Irving was better. Sure the vic had the setlist, that's what everyone raves about. But Irving had the energy, they were ready to start off a tour and raring to go with their best album since yield, the new engine of PJ! The crowd interaction was 100X more at Irving, Stone threw out pics there, he hardly looked at the crowd at the vic. Eddie gave us the option of betterman vs solat, and even came in the crowd during porch. Sure Irving didn't get a pre set but the show was phenomal. Plus I love seeing PJ rock out Animal and Life Wasted and WWS, I missed Animal so much after the vic and lolla.

    But that's just me and I could be wrong (but I'm not). Irving was just hands down a better live show, everyone just goes crazy over the setlist, look at Benny and Boston.

    And the topper, people in NY actually know what a rocking General Admission show is all about, people at the vic actually tried to leave and come back to threir spots on the floor like they owned them, or save spots for people getting posters.

    Agreed with everything above! To add to it, any show where the crowd sings louder than Ed for the whole fucking song (WWS) shortly after the album is released you know you're in for a special night! Granted I wasn't at the Vic, but taking everything in and listening to the boots I have to stick with IP!
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,516
    I was at neither but heard both shows on cd. i thought the sound for irving was a little shaky but the sound plus the rare songs at the vic made that a better show, but a pearl jam show is a pearl jam show, so i'm sure both were awesome in their own way.
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  • KosmicJelli
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    When I was a kid...I went to a concert at the Vic. I didnt have my drivers license yet and had to wait for someone to pick me up. Since I was the the last patron waiting.....I sat there and talked to the new owners for about an hour. The reason they bought it was for the "historic" sentimental value and the capacity to create great sound.

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