Has evryone forgotten what the grunge sound really was ?

Mahone wrote:

Mike's biggest influence was Jimi Hendrix. Yellow Ledbetter is a Hendrix-rich riff and listen to the solo in Immortality for the blues. There are plenty of other examples but those two stand out the tallest and I don't want to go song by song here, but I can't think of one single Mike song that screams, 'this is punk rock.' Don't get me wrong, they all had punk influences, but to say his sound is punk is just crazy.

Well on the last 3 albums all he talks about is social distortion, so its not crazy
life wasted
mfc
unemployabele
green disease
rvm
lukin
stbc
dte
so you are stating mike song
well inside job isnt blues either is gtf
I mean the list is endless.
He may play blues style but he sure as hell rarely uses the chord in the studio, maybee half full.
I know he idols hendrix, but most of mikes solos are very punk sounding.
If he played blues chords, how do you think he would be able to hand and hand with stone in just about all their good work. even nothing as it seems doesnt sound blues.

Murderers wrote:

Yeah; okay fair enough. I do love Soundgarden though.

Have we come to the conclusion that grunge has to be out of Seattle or around that area?

no they can be from anywhere

now im not saying metallica is anything like grunge, but they were huge with their sound above every other metal band.

metallica was heavy metal chords, mixed in with a punk speeed with very good classic rock structuring on their firs 4 albums.
You can tell metalica was a very good songwriting band on a mision.
this is what it takes to have a huge band.

What made grunge huge was classic rock structure, with punk chords, and a variation of mixed tempos
Alot of bands do not waste their time fusing music, they sing they play they collect their pay.

Like pj writes a song where everyone says it reminds them of an old zeppelin song, or even hendrix, pj goes and plays the instruments with melvins chords, or even social distortion. Just becasue mike plays very fast bluesey styles, but chooses to tune his guitar or play very social distortion like chords does not make it blues, throw in the simplistic structue of a good beatles song, and than have ed screaming in a punk key where you cant understand him, and than have a very mainstream melody, all the way stone is playing simple 2 to 3 chords, which he bragged about during the avocado sessions.
Gives them their sound.
They are very consistant with this.

Where metallica was motorhead meets black sabbath, with a touch of the misfits

Where pealr jam its the beatles meet the melvins, or dead kennedeys, with a touch of neil young or bob dylan singing . hendrix or page style solos.

It is not just my opinion, Has anyone read the five against 1 book, it really goes in debth with subpop and the early green river days, especially with ed meeting pj, there is some bs in the book post vs with the drummers, but the first part is good stuff, you would be suprised how much craft went into all this music. It wasnt just 5 guys plugging in and saying cool.

Look at green day, they have the chords, and sometimes the singing, but their music lacks structure and songwriting, and they never dable in zeppelin or hendix.

I guess to put it simply it was very heavy music sound, with a mainstream tempo, with classic rock played solos in punk chords.
It shows that there is alot of substance in this musical genre. It seperated their sound from basic alternative, like nin, stp, u2.
They still to this day write alot of their songs this way, go read stones interviews in rolling stone, and other articels.