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    shahrilshahril Posts: 288
    hello guys

    joining in at page 20+, my first comment is that AJ is the rudest piece of shit ive ever seen in my life..
    i would smack him upside down if he were my son..

    but meadow...sizzling...

    paulie can really make me annoyed. just little annoying stuff...i realised that right after season 3 i think where tony tells dr melfi that he gets annoyed himself at paulie cos he hums and says random stuff..

    i still cant get over the fact that they killed off adriana. didnt see that one coming at all..

    sorry if these stuff have been discussed earlier..cant be bothered to go over 20 odd pages..

    like the 1st post..bada bing!
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    Quality episode once again. Vito is still breathing, for now. I liked when Sil was trying to find out "delicately" from Vito's wife if he was gay. Not an easy subject to discuss with another man's wife.
    Finn talking with the boys was hillarious, talk a bout a nerve-racking group of guys, I would have been so uncomfortable.

    Things are still building momentum at this point, but it is still good, and yes Meadow is very hot.

    LOL when paulie called Vito a Flombay! (sp.?)
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    joseducajoseduca Posts: 1,272
    i think she breaks up with finn, too much pressure for him now that his name is all over the place (thanks, carm!)

    meadow working on the law side could also open some room for the fbi to strike back at tony

    on the king of munchkinland (sp?) subject: is furio coming back? i bet he is!
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    joseduca wrote:
    i think she breaks up with finn, too much pressure for him now that his name is all over the place (thanks, carm!)

    meadow working on the law side could also open some room for the fbi to strike back at tony

    on the king of munchkinland (sp?) subject: is furio coming back? i bet he is!

    I doubt if Furio is coming back since he had a thing with Carmella and Tony knows about it. Isn't that why he left in a big hurry?
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    joseducajoseduca Posts: 1,272
    Dollpartz wrote:
    I doubt if Furio is coming back since he had a thing with Carmella and Tony knows about it. Isn't that why he left in a big hurry?

    and tony knows about him after carm told him during the last fight

    who decides who's coming from the old country?
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    AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    joseduca wrote:
    and tony knows about him after carm told him during the last fight

    who decides who's coming from the old country?

    good question. it definitely would make for an interesting story since tony, carmella and furio seem to have some unfinished business between them.
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    rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,549
    I don't think it will be Furio. Too much tension could still exist and Tony would not request him to come over...Didn't Tony tell Chris / Chris tell the junkie that there would be two people coming over?

    I think Meadow will continue her career in law. It seems to be something she's passionate about, but the whole human rights vs. white collar crime is something that I don't think has been resolved yet. I could imagine that she gets far away from the life her father lives and focuses on helping people in need. Finn could be a big part of that, but I'm not convinced they'll stay together.

    AJ may be a chump, but he hasn't caused much trouble since Tony came out of the coma. Carmela's dad and Tony have both caused her more grief because they won't get the house to pass inspection.

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    sorry if these stuff have been discussed earlier..cant be bothered to go over 20 odd pages..

    like the 1st post..bada bing!

    Just a hint, but you can set your preferences in User CP to show up to 40 threads per page. That would still be the same amount of reading, but this particular thread is only 8 pages long in that view. FYI, you know?
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    The thing about Vito- trying unsuccessfully to contact his cousin and calling 4-1-1 was a little unclear. But it is evident that he has found some place of acceptance in new Hampshire. This is found when you see him looking at that gay couple in the diner- and how they were very open and accepted. The cook was even friendly towards him , and then the 2 gay guys.
    Then going into the antique shop and they guy teling him " you are a natural " .
    This has really given him a feeling of solace and acceptance. Clearly he will be " settling down " here- at least for a while- until if & when the family tracks him down .
    I think it bothers the other guys more then Tony- but buisiness- wise he will have to stand by the nay- sayers .
    Vitos wifes cousin Phil- that will probably be the guy who goes and hunts him down.

    And I wonder excatly where the storyline is going with Carmella and her father- her parents werent even present at the hospital when Tony was sick- i thought that was interesting .

    Next weeks coming attractions looked crazy ! It looks like the little guy --Benny Fazio ( Vinnie from " doogie howser " )gets into it with Tony ( I think ) ?
    Thats gonna be crazy .




    Ill be watching, like many of you !

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    A place to live free and die
    Monday, April 17, 2006
    WARNING: This column contains major plot spoilers for last night's "Sopranos" episode.

    Did you hear the one about the Jersey mobster who walked into a Norman Rockwell painting of New England? Neither did I, because usually you can't get there from here.

    My hat's off to David Chase and company for once again defying expectations. I read a lot of theories in the last week about Vito: that he was going to kill himself in that motel, that he was going to turn federal witness to avoid the wrath of Tony and Phil, that Phil would find out before Tony and blackmail Vito into helping him get revenge for his brother. That last one was mine, and it was about as far away from what they actually did as the friendly confines of Dartford, New Hampshire, are from the valley of the malls that Vito fled.

    No strip clubs and big box stores allowed in Dartford, no sir. In Vito's picture-postcard hideout, his landlady doesn't need cash in advance, the local diner makes its own sausages and, most importantly for Vito, a gay couple fits right in.

    That Vito should find safe harbor in a place marinating in its own authenticity makes sense, since his inability to be who he really is drove him out of Essex County.

    This episode was called "Live Free Or Die," but in Soprano country, it's not a choice but a combination: Live free and die.

    Newcomers to organized crime are promised a glamorous life where they won't be bound by the rules of society. What no one ever tells them is that they're trading one set of laws for another, and sometimes the new laws are worse than the old ones. (When Phil broke the bad news to Vito's wife, he sounded like a prosecutor: "The witness has no reason to lie.")

    Since Tony came out of his coma, I've had a running argument with our other TV critic, Matt Seitz, about whether Tony has been changed by the experience. After last night, I'm with Matt: Tony wants to learn and grow from what happened, but the business he has chosen won't let him.

    He didn't want to beat up Perry last week, but it was the only move he could make to survive. (Not coincidentally, Christopher is now on board with the Rusty hit.) As Tony told Eugene -- another man who realized too late just how restrictive his career choice was -- there's no retiring from this. Tony may want to show vulnerability, may want to cut Vito some slack on the gay thing, but he knows that kind of thinking will only catch him another bullet.

    Once I got over the abject horror of Vito in the leather outfit last week, I noticed that as he was dancing, he displayed an emotion we rarely see on this show: pure joy. As a gangster, the thing that made him happy might get him killed, just as the fatty foods he loves are bad for his health (he left his diet and Jersey behind at the same time.

    Meanwhile, Carmela continues to recalculate the price tag that came with her McMansion lifestyle. She learned last season that she can't be with a man other than Tony, and now she's discovering that she may never be able to have an income separate from his.

    Between Tony's deliberate inaction with the building inspector and the greed of her own father, the spec house seems doomed. And if she thinks she can join the Family rank-and-file like Angie Bonpensiero, she's kidding herself. Carmela's been edging ever closer to the Family business since that therapy session in episode three, but no way does Tony let his wife on the payroll. That's another rule you can't break.

    So what happens next? After seeing the whole of "Sopranos" fandom fail so spectacularly at predicting the newest direction for Vito's story, I don't want to guess. But as we head into the second half of this spring season, I keep returning to something Chase told me last month: "Once we realized we were doing a show in which characters would and could die, that was very liberating in a way. Because it meant that they could change also."

    As I said before the season began, the opposite is true, too: on this show, when people change, they usually die. So let's not be picturing Vito as an antiques mogul just yet.

    Some other random thoughts:


    A time and space crunch last week made me shortchange Vince Curatola, who was brilliant at showing Johnny Sack's joy and pain. So I don't repeat that mistake, let's just say my dust allergy kicked up as I watched Joseph Gannascoli kissing Vito's kids goodbye.


    Meadow's pro bono case with the Afghani family may have seemed random, but they're in the same situation as the mobsters: escaping the rules of one society for another that's not as free as it was cracked up to be.


    Irony on location: Dartford doesn't exist, and its main street is really in Boonton.


    Know your Family: Carlo Gervasi, to whom Tony gave all of Vito's construction jobs, has been a background fixture at captain's meetings since the start of season four. Tony B. reported to him, as does Perry. Carlo also runs the ports and the Bloomfield Avenue casino.


    Speaking of Perry, last night should kill the theory that the fight was staged. Like the notion that Vito killed himself off-camera, it ignores how this show operates. Chase and company aren't interested in big twists and surprises; if something important happens, you'll know immediately or soon after.


    With four of the show's best writers (Chase, Terence Winter, Robin Green and Mitchell Burgess) getting script credit, you knew this one was going to bring the funny, and it delivered. Among the laughs: Christopher and Tony separately insisting they always knew Vito's secret, Tony's panic over whether Melfi believed he slept with men in jail, Paulie's disgusted reaction to the full Vito story ("How much more betrayal can I take?"), and Christopher rationalizing that his Arab clients can't be terrorists because one of them owns a springer spaniel.


    Loved Tony trying to impress Melfi by quoting the "go about in pity for themselves" line -- which, run through an Ojibwe-to-Sopranos translator, comes out roughly as "Poor you."


    Boy, do Meadow and Finn not like each other anymore. Since he probably only proposed to save himself from Vito, now he has no excuse not to run screaming from a world that so obviously horrifies him.


    Why is a Yonkers wiseguy collecting on Phil's turf, and why wouldn't he tell Phil first?
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    rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,549
    Was it my imagination or was Tony trying to reference Jessica Biel and lesbianism while talking to Melfi?

    What was he talking about? Did I miss something?
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    rhinomagic wrote:
    Was it my imagination or was Tony trying to reference Jessica Biel and lesbianism while talking to Melfi?

    What was he talking about? Did I miss something?




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    moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    the L Word show on showtime is what i assumed,...

    could be wrong

    You are correct. The L Word on Showtime, which I'll proudly admit I watch. Hey, I'm a guy, and its about lesbians, I'm like the target audience.

    I did read a little spoiler on Aint It Cool News, so don't read any further if you don't want to be privy to it, but,

    SPOILER WARNING!
















    Supposedly Vito is going to rape Finn, which, after last night, makes a little more sense.















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    That spoiler sounds like nonsense to me.

    It just doesn't make sense.
    "My road may be lonely
    just because it's not paved

    it's good for drifting away..."
    "What's the score?"
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    It makes zero sense that Vito would rape Finn and why not name your source..... I still very much stand by the idea that Meadow gets a degree in law and uses to protect the intrests of her fathers business. She complains endlessly about the government and its injustices and the lawyer Meadow is interning for refered to her as Tony Soprano's daughter to her colleague. That is all Meadow will be known as in the world of law, the daughter of a reputed figure of organized crime. It will be very difficult for her to establish credibility and I believe she will realize that. Meadow is very street smart and tough and emulates her father way more than AJ ever did. The only place for AJ in that show is to just have him in the backround picking his nose, he is worthless. Its a shame too because if AJ wasn't already such a dull character there could have been endless possibilities with Tony Sopranos son. Its too late now to give him a brain I guess .And I must agree with some other posts, Meadow is so hot. Happy antiquing Vito.
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    moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    That spoiler sounds like nonsense to me.

    It just doesn't make sense.

    Come on, look at the way Vito has treated Finn since the BJ incident. He's very weird around him, always touching him, like on his arm. And now that Finn is the one that spilled the beans about what he saw, I can see Vito taking it out on him in the worst way.
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    moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 536
    moster78 wrote:
    Come on, look at the way Vito has treated Finn since the BJ incident. He's very weird around him, always touching him, like on his arm. And now that Finn is the one that spilled the beans about what he saw, I can see Vito taking it out on him in the worst way.

    you're out of your mind. no way in hell does vito go back to rape finn. he's gone, he ain't ever going back, unless forced to.

    i'm really enjoying this season, but i got to thinking last night about this whole vito storyline. why the fuck would a mobster go to a "flamingly gay" gay bar? it just doesn't make any sense. i can't picture someone in his position risking everything he has dressing like "the motorcycle guy in the village people".
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    moeaholic wrote:
    you're out of your mind. no way in hell does vito go back to rape finn. he's gone, he ain't ever going back, unless forced to.

    Couldn't agree more. Vito's not going back, and he has no idea that Finn had anything to do with his outing.

    Maybe Vito likes going to "flaming bars" that's the place he would most want to be whether he is connected or not. These guys aren't exactly used to following rules. Just a theory. The real question is why would he go to a place where he knew there was collections?
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    just because it's not paved

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    "Nothing, nothing."
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    Vito was just coming from a wedding and whenever you go to a wedding its gets you thinking. How was Vito supposed to know there would be guys there collecting at what I'm assuming was the middle of the night. Also, he was at a gay bar in New York, not Jersey.
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    moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    Couldn't agree more. Vito's not going back, and he has no idea that Finn had anything to do with his outing.

    Maybe Vito likes going to "flaming bars" that's the place he would most want to be whether he is connected or not. These guys aren't exactly used to following rules. Just a theory. The real question is why would he go to a place where he knew there was collections?

    All right, just wait and see. I'll be the one saying I told you so! =)
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    moster78 wrote:
    All right, just wait and see. I'll be the one saying I told you so! =)

    I'm gonna hold you to it. :D

    My experience has been that when it comes to this show, most theories are off. But it's worth a shot.
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    just because it's not paved

    it's good for drifting away..."
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    moster78moster78 Posts: 1,591
    I'm gonna hold you to it. :D

    My experience has been that when it comes to this show, most theories are off. But it's worth a shot.

    I'm just going on the notion that it looks like Tony might give Vito a pass, and he's always had a thing for Finn. If Vito is allowed back, and alive, it'll only be a matter of time before he finds out Finn ratted him out, that'd be one hell of a way to exact some revenge.
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    Vito was outed before Finn ever said anything so why would Vito rape Finn for revenge.

    1. Vito has to even find out Finn said anything and what character has any motive to go running to Vito to say Meadow Sopranos boyfriend saw you sucking off a security guard. All Finn was for is confirmation. Vito was already caught redhanded by the guys making the collections and that was enough for Vito to go on the run.

    2. Does Vito really strike you as a perverted sexual predator.

    3. Vito seems content with running away and not looking back.
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    moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 536
    moster78 wrote:
    I'm just going on the notion that it looks like Tony might give Vito a pass, and he's always had a thing for Finn. If Vito is allowed back, and alive, it'll only be a matter of time before he finds out Finn ratted him out, that'd be one hell of a way to exact some revenge.

    i don't think vito is coming back at all. i also don't think tony is going to have anyone go look for him either. i don't doubt vito will be found, but i think it'll be phil that finds him and he'll end up killing him where he stands.
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    moeaholic wrote:
    i don't think vito is coming back at all. i also don't think tony is going to have anyone go look for him either. i don't doubt vito will be found, but i think it'll be phil that finds him and he'll end up killing him where he stands.

    Right....Phil is the one Vito has to worry about. The scene where Phil goes and sees Vito's wife, Phil was pissed and that guy definately doesn't play games. The scene ended with Phil saying "so where do you think he went"...I don't think Tony would try and stop Phil I just don't think Tony wants Vito's blood on his hands.
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    Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    culot4 wrote:
    Right....Phil is the one Vito has to worry about.


    agreed- as i said earler-

    vito married Phils cousin.

    He's pissed .
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    Either way it seemed clear to me that there is no way that Vito will be allowed back in the fold.

    Either he'll disappear completely, or someone will find him and end him. I think his days in the family are over.
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    mookie dmookie d Posts: 43
    phil is old school. there's no way he'll tolerate a pillow biter in the family. same goes for paulie. but if they don't off vito then the word WILL get out that fin outed him. all they had to go on was an unreliable witness before fin came forward and everyone knows he had NOTHING to gain by doing so. either way, there's gonna be some dead people in caldwell, new jersey in the very near future.
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    vmfuryvmfury Posts: 1,079
    mookie d wrote:
    either way, there's gonna be some dead people in caldwell, new jersey in the very near future.

    You're right. There haven't been any killings thus far so I'm thinking some people are due to go soon. Pauly definitely has something coming to him for going behind Tony's back. He's such a whiney bitch.
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    bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    the doogie howser kid can't come into power..... whenever he's on screen i giggle... ruins it for me :)

    they should of had vito go to ogunguit maine... would of been more believable...

    anyone else think he's going to go back for more johnny cakes?? and maybe even a little of johnny's homemade "sausage"??

    he definitely wanted to slurp the cook
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    culot4culot4 Posts: 775
    I hate how they just abandon storylines sometimes. No Vito at all tonight except for one of Phil's violent rants where he says something about stuffing in his cornhole or something. Artie Bucco and Benny tonight along with an absurd storyline involving Chris and Carmine Jr. in LA trying to cast Ben Kingsley for their movie. I can't even look at Benny without immediately seeing Doogie Howser's horndog buddy who used to climb through the window while Doogie was journaling. Anyway, Artie has always been a dull character IMO but semi-important nonetheless. What I took from it was that considering the show is wrapping up they had to give Artie his farewell. The ending scene he takes out his composition book full of recipes and rediscovers his identity and a tribute to Italian culture and blah blah blah. The hit on Rusty went down which stayed within the storyline so that might be something...Someone who may be fixing to go down is Chris' sponsor buddy, Murmur or whatever.
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